'No Pull Harness' How do they work?
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The above type techniques worked really well for me. Did it on a mates tuggy Spaniel that she was tearing her hair out about - was to heel in 5 mins. My Dalmatian has been the trickiest ever - his instinct is reconnaissance with nose to the ground. He walks to heel for me but always needs a snap on the lead and the long walkaround to heel when we first exit the drive.
Try a long springy lead with something that will make a noise when you snap it the second he takes up all slack when it goes tense (hold loop in right hand and allow slack to slip through left hand) . They will usually stop then. Walk them around you to your left side and say heel. Repeat in exactly the same way - allow them to go ahead and the second the lead is tense snap it. Doesn't hurt them at all - added noise/rattle makes it far more effective. I just say the 'h' of heel now when he instinctively tries to hunt out a smell and he pauses and goes back to heel - never ahead of you.
Looked for the lead and found this: https://www.doglistener.co.uk/behavioural/walking_... has jangles!
Try a long springy lead with something that will make a noise when you snap it the second he takes up all slack when it goes tense (hold loop in right hand and allow slack to slip through left hand) . They will usually stop then. Walk them around you to your left side and say heel. Repeat in exactly the same way - allow them to go ahead and the second the lead is tense snap it. Doesn't hurt them at all - added noise/rattle makes it far more effective. I just say the 'h' of heel now when he instinctively tries to hunt out a smell and he pauses and goes back to heel - never ahead of you.
Looked for the lead and found this: https://www.doglistener.co.uk/behavioural/walking_... has jangles!
King Herald said:
Trying to get him behind me is probably impossible. Not even sure I want him trailing behind actually.
You don't want them behind you, you want them to heel.I nearly lost patience with our spaniel, he pulled badly & I started to think I was never going to get through to him, it was almost like he was testing me because very shortly after he 'got it' and has been pretty good ever since.
Ken Figenus said:
The above type techniques worked really well for me. Did it on a mates tuggy Spaniel that she was tearing her hair out about - was to heel in 5 mins. My Dalmatian has been the trickiest ever - his instinct is reconnaissance with nose to the ground. He walks to heel for me but always needs a snap on the lead and the long walkaround to heel when we first exit the drive.
Try a long springy lead with something that will make a noise when you snap it the second he takes up all slack when it goes tense (hold loop in right hand and allow slack to slip through left hand) . They will usually stop then. Walk them around you to your left side and say heel. Repeat in exactly the same way - allow them to go ahead and the second the lead is tense snap it. Doesn't hurt them at all - added noise/rattle makes it far more effective. I just say the 'h' of heel now when he instinctively tries to hunt out a smell and he pauses and goes back to heel - never ahead of you.
Looked for the lead and found this: https://www.doglistener.co.uk/behavioural/walking_... has jangles!
I’ll check out the lead, but I have my doubts he will suddenly change the habit of a lifetime because of a snapping sound. I’ve tried very sharp tugs repeatedly, they affect him, he slows, but then comes back up to speed in a few paces. I don’t see how noise will change that mentality.Try a long springy lead with something that will make a noise when you snap it the second he takes up all slack when it goes tense (hold loop in right hand and allow slack to slip through left hand) . They will usually stop then. Walk them around you to your left side and say heel. Repeat in exactly the same way - allow them to go ahead and the second the lead is tense snap it. Doesn't hurt them at all - added noise/rattle makes it far more effective. I just say the 'h' of heel now when he instinctively tries to hunt out a smell and he pauses and goes back to heel - never ahead of you.
Looked for the lead and found this: https://www.doglistener.co.uk/behavioural/walking_... has jangles!
LordHaveMurci said:
King Herald said:
Trying to get him behind me is probably impossible. Not even sure I want him trailing behind actually.
You don't want them behind you, you want them to heel.I nearly lost patience with our spaniel, he pulled badly & I started to think I was never going to get through to him, it was almost like he was testing me because very shortly after he 'got it' and has been pretty good ever since.
I've got an 8 month old Wire Haired Vizsla who pulls incessantly on the lead. We've tried harnesses, haltis etc and none of them really worked in a way I was comfortable. He spends MOST of his walk off the lead as its basically all fields. But there are some roads we have to walk along and this is where he pulls badly.
I've been reading this thread with interest and saw the posts about changing direction so this morning thought - sod it, can't hurt to try
It was great ! I managed to do about 70% of the walk on a loose lead, he will still pull at points (when he sniffs out something interesting) but doing a rapid about-turn, walking a little way in the opposite direction and then going back the original way seemed to really work with him. I'm so happy that he's more controllable as he's strong, even at 8 months. I really want to get this cracked before he's fully grown as I suspect my wife will struggle to walk him if we don't and neither of us want that.
So from me to you - many thanks !
I've been reading this thread with interest and saw the posts about changing direction so this morning thought - sod it, can't hurt to try
It was great ! I managed to do about 70% of the walk on a loose lead, he will still pull at points (when he sniffs out something interesting) but doing a rapid about-turn, walking a little way in the opposite direction and then going back the original way seemed to really work with him. I'm so happy that he's more controllable as he's strong, even at 8 months. I really want to get this cracked before he's fully grown as I suspect my wife will struggle to walk him if we don't and neither of us want that.
So from me to you - many thanks !
Ken Figenus said:
Nice one Juice - this is all really about training the owners and getting them to heel first!!!
Lovely dogs Viszlas - so like my hound and programmed to sniff out all the squirrels and moles on the high st!
Yep - I was amazed at how quickly he adapted. Mind you he's a very quick learner I think that he's too smart for his own good sometimes...Lovely dogs Viszlas - so like my hound and programmed to sniff out all the squirrels and moles on the high st!
He's at home now with my wife, just chilling
moorx said:
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion of course, and to train their dog as they wish (so long as it is not cruel) but in the interests of balance, I'll just leave this here:
https://positively.com/dog-training/myths-truths/p...
Interesting article but I’m not listening to someone who has written an article called “giddy up, the differences between dogs and horses”https://positively.com/dog-training/myths-truths/p...
I think that positive reinforcement and dominance both have a hand in training a dog, mine responds to a bit of both. When he walks in front of me I kick him in the balls, he now walks behind me because I can’t kick him in the balls from the front 😂
phil-sti said:
Interesting article but I’m not listening to someone who has written an article called “giddy up, the differences between dogs and horses”
I think that positive reinforcement and dominance both have a hand in training a dog, mine responds to a bit of both. When he walks in front of me I kick him in the balls, he now walks behind me because I can’t kick him in the balls from the front ??
Mine was neutered at about ten minutes old. Hence nothing to kick. I think that positive reinforcement and dominance both have a hand in training a dog, mine responds to a bit of both. When he walks in front of me I kick him in the balls, he now walks behind me because I can’t kick him in the balls from the front ??
And his brain does not seem to have developed from that time on, I fear. The five year old puppy.
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