Should I shoot my dog?

[sa_20v]

I can understand why you would be upset, it would piss me off to sit down with half a glass of wine and a pizza to watch a DVD only to find man's best friend chewing on my wife - because I bloody hate wine! However, i'm not sure beating the living shit out of a dog is the best idea - I understand it needs to learn its lesson, but severe physical abuse will only worsen the situation, for you and the dog.

I would consult with your vet in the first instance, and then seek advice from a 'proper' behavioural expert (I say proper because it's the latest fad for failed interior decorators - but its not as easy as throwing around a couple of scatter cushions).

[pistonbroke PHd]

sa_20v said:

I can understand why you would be upset, it would piss me off to sit down with half a glass of wine and a pizza to watch a DVD only to find a man's best friend chewing on my wife

You're right. After I separated from my ex-wife, it wasn't long before one of my best friends took over all munching responsibilities. They're married now. One of these days I'm going to send him a DVD of me munching her - just can't be arsed to copy the VHS tapes. But I'll get round to it one day. Just to remind him that I had the good taste to do the diving lessons when she was in the prime of her life rather than the face-lifted, fake-titted old dragon he's waking up to each morning now.

[tinman0]

sa_20v said:

but severe physical abuse will only worsen the situation, for you and the dog.

not really. as with most things, its a fine line.

[K13 WJD]

ha ha ha.....havent laughed that hard since the last family fortunes episode ( name a type of bean ) gay guy answers......lesbean......ha ha ha

[becksW]

Someone mentioned castration. If they are still entire the bahaviourist will need to determine which dog is dominate. Once they have determined this they will advise castrating the SUBMISSIVE dog only, keeps the Alpha dog Alpha and prevents the chance of trying to be overtaken by the underdog. If they are both already neutered this is not an option.

Punishment, electric shocks etc will stimulate fear aggression and worsen a situation, I think this method should only be used if:
A)Person being attacked
B)Fight between dogs is becoming so severe and nothing else working.

But now I've gone against my own advice and given advice on this topc....must stop.

Hope you get the problem sorted, it'll take time but be worth it in the end.

Edited by becksW on Saturday 27th October 20:39

[sa_20v]

tinman0 said:

sa_20v said:

but severe physical abuse will only worsen the situation, for you and the dog.

not really. as with most things, its a fine line.

Bullshit is it a fine line. It's simple, you beat dog, dog bites back - and usually at the person who hasn't done the beating. I bet if I beat you Tinman you'd still post absolute drivel.

For the OP, seek professional help and ignore the hearsay.

Edited by sa_20v on Saturday 27th October 20:40

[pistonbroke PHd]

sa_20v said:

For the OP, seek professional help and ignore the hearsay.

But don't forget the "Here. Sit."

[dfen5]

What if it was a kid it bit or had bit her face? Get the thing put down before it does.

[tinman0]

sa_20v said:

tinman0 said:

sa_20v said:

but severe physical abuse will only worsen the situation, for you and the dog.

not really. as with most things, its a fine line.

Bullshit is it a fine line. It's simple, you beat dog, dog bites back - and usually at the person who hasn't done the beating. I bet if I beat your Tinman you'd still post absolute drivel.

For the OP, seek professional help and ignore the hearsay.

if you beat a dog and it bit you back, you probably deserved it. dogs are good judges of character.

[Hooli]

pistonbroke PHd said:

sa_20v said:

I can understand why you would be upset, it would piss me off to sit down with half a glass of wine and a pizza to watch a DVD only to find a man's best friend chewing on my wife

You're right. After I separated from my ex-wife, it wasn't long before one of my best friends took over all munching responsibilities. They're married now. One of these days I'm going to send him a DVD of me munching her - just can't be arsed to copy the VHS tapes. But I'll get round to it one day. Just to remind him that I had the good taste to do the diving lessons when she was in the prime of her life rather than the face-lifted, fake-titted old dragon he's waking up to each morning now.

have a couple of for that one

[GKP]

The dog did the biting before any punishment was given.

Random cruelty to dogs is a no no, but teaching them that biting humans won't be tolerated is worth doing.

[lazyitus]

If you do decide to shoot it, it may be worthwhile attaching a Jade Goody mask to the dog just to negate some of the bad feeling you have when you pump the lead.

Just a thought.

[Boosted LS1]

I wouldn't have them sitting om my lap, and on the furniture. That just elevates their status and could have been enought to spark off an incident especially if they haven't determined which one is lowest in the pecking order. That's always where the trouble is and no dog wants to be last.

[Knick Pee]

King Herald said:

anonymous said:

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Well look at the brainiac over here

[Knick Pee]

K13 WJD said:

ha ha ha.....havent laughed that hard since the last family fortunes episode ( name a type of bean ) gay guy answers......lesbean......ha ha ha

blimey, you need to get out more.

[Dimski]

dave_s13 said:

Knick Pee said:

sounds like you've already 'kicked him in the face', so i will not suggest that

My descritption of his physical punishment was watered down. It kinda got to the stage where my wife had to stop me from permanamtly damaging the little sod.

Now I do believe in firm discipline, but with recent experience of training a few slightly troublesome dogs recently (Fortunately not a violence problem) I do think that if a dog is afraid, its reaction can be defense and aggresive.

A good dog trainer is the best way to go.

And whilst I am not sure a kicking is the way forward, I am 100% behind you on this Dave, you cannot, repeat CANNOT have a dog that will bite a human.

Get a pro. Advice here probably is best taken with all the salt in the black sea

[spaximus]

I am with the op on this, the kicking of the dog was necessary to get the result i.e dog off wife. There is a reason why dogs fight and it is a pecking order. But by allowing them to be in bed with you, on the furniture sends the wrong message out, they become confused. A good trainer will look at all the elements working in the home, how your wife is with them etc and will recommend appropriate action.
But... if there is any repeat of unprovoked attacks then the dog has to go, simple really.

Btw hope your wife is okay!!!

[becksW]

Dimski said:

dave_s13 said:

Knick Pee said:

sounds like you've already 'kicked him in the face', so i will not suggest that

My descritption of his physical punishment was watered down. It kinda got to the stage where my wife had to stop me from permanamtly damaging the little sod.

Now I do believe in firm discipline, but with recent experience of training a few slightly troublesome dogs recently (Fortunately not a violence problem) I do think that if a dog is afraid, its reaction can be defense and aggresive.

A good dog trainer is the best way to go.

And whilst I am not sure a kicking is the way forward, I am 100% behind you on this Dave, you cannot, repeat CANNOT have a dog that will bite a human.

Get a pro. Advice here probably is best taken with all the salt in the black sea

Agree that the reaction of Dave is probably how most of would have reacted to some extent, however I think he may have gone too far.

Reading his thread it really seems the dog was asleep and awoke suddenly and was startled, this dog is now probably extremely confused and shocked at what followed and has prob only learned to become fearful, not a good behaviour in a dog. The mistake was with the owner in the first place, the dogs should not have been asleep on their owners laps.

I think from what has been written the dog bit the owner completely by accident, not deliberately, there is a big difference. However due to the beating it has just received it may not be accidental if it happens again and then you are on a downward spiral.

Basically a mess all round.

[Lois]

Knick Pee said:

King Herald said:

anonymous said:

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Well look at the brainiac over here

Just read how that sounds but wasnt quite what i meant in my head Was thinking more along the lines of an internal problem rather than socially either with Pete or discipline.

[King Herald]

anonymous said:

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Wot ever