Discussion
bmwmike said:
Bighoose said:
It's Incredible that people are still fighting to have the very tame ban, which is really just a registration scheme that goes nowhere near far enough, overturned.
As terrible as yet another death is, at least it's the owner and not an innocent member of the public or another kid.
These things should be culled.
Yep, small mercy. They need to start cranking up the sentences for owning these things when they go mauly. And cull em, agreed.As terrible as yet another death is, at least it's the owner and not an innocent member of the public or another kid.
These things should be culled.
bennno said:
Caddyshack said:
The lady killed this week looked to live in a pretty respectable street / house. 2 bully’s in the house. No idea what the family is like though.
Bit chavvy / thick probably based on the standard owner profile.Zoon said:
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Facebook predictably full of "it's the wrong end of the lead being punished" and "any dog can turn" etc. It's like being allowed to own a tiger, as long as you promise to keep it in your garden and put a muzzle on it when you take it for walkies past the local primary school.
Came up close to one in Tottenham last week. Older chap walking him for his son who was at work.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Glassman said:
Came up close to one in Tottenham last week. Older chap walking him for his son who was at work.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Funny thing is I heard all black people were drug dealers and I got all confused and the like when I met one and he didn’t offer me drugs, we must have me two dodgy ones.A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Glassman said:
Came up close to one in Tottenham last week. Older chap walking him for his son who was at work.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Neither you or the owner have any idea whether that dog will flip and hurt, or kill, someone. Thr fact it seemed really nice and let you tickle it's tummy is really meaningless.A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
The "you can say that about a lot of breeds" argument becomes more and more irrelevant with each attack. Have a look at UK dog attack death statistics, the XL Bully is involved in a higher proportion of fatal attacks than any other breed now. Theres really no comparison to the threat these dogs represent.
Bighoose said:
Neither you or the owner have any idea whether that dog will flip and hurt, or kill, someone. Thr fact it seemed really nice and let you tickle it's tummy is really meaningless.
The "you can say that about a lot of breeds" argument becomes more and more irrelevant with each attack. Have a look at UK dog attack death statistics, the XL Bully is involved in a higher proportion of fatal attacks than any other breed now. Theres really no comparison to the threat these dogs represent.
My dad's second dog bit me on my hand when I was about 10 (still have the scar) and then jumped up and bit me on the face adding another scar, this time to my eye (looks like a boxing cut!). Despite this, I still love dogs (except for the handbag yappy ones). The "you can say that about a lot of breeds" argument becomes more and more irrelevant with each attack. Have a look at UK dog attack death statistics, the XL Bully is involved in a higher proportion of fatal attacks than any other breed now. Theres really no comparison to the threat these dogs represent.
Huge soft spot for dogs. Meeting a Bully for the first time was a good experience but I could see how powerful it was.
Bighoose said:
Glassman said:
Came up close to one in Tottenham last week. Older chap walking him for his son who was at work.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Neither you or the owner have any idea whether that dog will flip and hurt, or kill, someone. Thr fact it seemed really nice and let you tickle it's tummy is really meaningless.A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
The "you can say that about a lot of breeds" argument becomes more and more irrelevant with each attack. Have a look at UK dog attack death statistics, the XL Bully is involved in a higher proportion of fatal attacks than any other breed now. Theres really no comparison to the threat these dogs represent.
Bighoose said:
the XL Bully is involved in a higher proportion of fatal attacks than any other breed now. Theres really no comparison to the threat these dogs represent.
Surely more down to who would have an XL Bully? Same thing happened (in terms of owners were using them as a show of strength) with Pitbulls and even Staffies, no? Glassman said:
Came up close to one in Tottenham last week. Older chap walking him for his son who was at work.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Maybe they got mauled by another XL?A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
bmwmike said:
Glassman said:
Came up close to one in Tottenham last week. Older chap walking him for his son who was at work.
A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
Maybe they got mauled by another XL?A lovely tan colour, this dog was muzzled but chilled out as they walked by the Audi RS5 I was changing the windscreen on. At first I wasn't sure of the breed and said hello to the chap. We had a conversation which started about why the dog was muzzled seeing he's so clam and friendly. "Because he's an XL Bully," the man said. The dog checked me out and must have got a whiff of my Staffie but seemed to remain calm (I do firmly believe most dogs know if you're a dog person or not).
After the dog and I became acquainted, he sat down and rolled over. I obliged by tickling his tummy. He loved the attention while I continued chatting with the old boy.
"He's been neutered, and we've had to take out public liability insurance," he continued "he has to be on a lead and muzzled when he's outside the house". He was operated on at four years which makes him sleep most of the time these days the man said.
I couldn't help but feel for the dog as I didn't see him as a killing machine although could clearly see where the power comes from. He also had devilish eyes which at first were a bit unnerving. Would I have one? Probably not. It's a lot of power, and heavy weight behind it. If they're not right mentally, someone is potentially going to be in a lot of trouble. Grave danger in fact, but you can say that about a lot of breeds.
The chap told me that when the law was passed about the breed, a few weeks later, a couple of them were chopped up and dumped in the park.
Not trying to change opinion about this particular breed, but my one and only encounter with one was a good one.
tbag owner.Glassman said:
Surely more down to who would have an XL Bully? Same thing happened (in terms of owners were using them as a show of strength) with Pitbulls and even Staffies, no?
No Quite a number of the deaths have been decent owners. The guy up North in Aberdeen, or maybe Dundee, was an experienced dog handler. It's partly the owners, but the breed of dog is very much part of the problem. Open your eyes.
Bighoose said:
Facebook predictably full of "it's the wrong end of the lead being punished" and "any dog can turn" etc.
It's like being allowed to own a tiger, as long as you promise to keep it in your garden and put a muzzle on it when you take it for walkies past the local primary school.
There was a fashion in South Africa,a few years back, for gangstas to furnish themselves with a pet hyena. Their jaws type bite ended that fashion with the killing of a few in a short time.It's like being allowed to own a tiger, as long as you promise to keep it in your garden and put a muzzle on it when you take it for walkies past the local primary school.
Bighoose said:
Glassman said:
Surely more down to who would have an XL Bully? Same thing happened (in terms of owners were using them as a show of strength) with Pitbulls and even Staffies, no?
No Quite a number of the deaths have been decent owners. The guy up North in Aberdeen, or maybe Dundee, was an experienced dog handler. It's partly the owners, but the breed of dog is very much part of the problem. Open your eyes.
Sad either way.
Edited by Youforreal. on Tuesday 21st May 18:24
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