Need to log travel plans before leaving UK

[Simpo Two]

Heard this on R4 this morning but can't find it on the BBC website...

Apparently this year there's going to be a new law introduced making us file 'travel plans' before leaving the country. In other words, all they have to do is refuse, and you can't leave.



Is this a plan to stop any more of us emigrating to nicer places? I can't believe they could simply impose this and nobody's noticed.

[Martial Arts Man]

Simpo Two said:

Heard this on R4 this morning but can't find it on the BBC website...

Apparently this year there's going to be a new law introduced making us file 'travel plans' before leaving the country. In other words, all they have to do is refuse, and you can't leave.



Is this a plan to stop any more of us emigrating to nicer places? I can't believe they could simply impose this and nobody's noticed.

This cannot possibly be true......how we used to pity the Soviets/Chinese in decades past.

Please tell me this isn't true.....somebody, please.......

[anonymous-user]

Linky

[Jasandjules]

I heard something like that mentioned on the BBC in passing this morning (it will be to "prevent" terrorism.... Of course it will).

Papieren Bitte?

[motco]

This makes me feel quite irrationally angry.

[MentalSarcasm]

"They will be expected to use the internet to send their details each time they leave the country and would face a fine of up to £5,000 should they fail to do so."

I would personally donate towards the legal costs of anyone that refused to pay the fine and insisted on being taken to court.

Hell I'd deliberately break the law and get fined myself for my day in court. It is none of their sodding business if I'm going to Nice, Amsterdam or Chicago!

I HATE THIS BLOODY GOVERNMENT!

[scorp]

And people try to say the UK isn't a police state...

[mrmaggit]

According to the figures supplied on the Telegraph piece, the information has led to an arrest rate for the listed crimes , drug running etc, of 0.003536%.

Pardon me, but that is not worth it. They'd be better off using the mark one eyeball, and officers hunches.

The rest of it is Police State stuff, that even their own Minister scrapped.

twunts.

[Jasandjules]

What if you don't have the internet? My Grandmother wouldn't know how to switch a PC on, if she going to have to learn how to use a PC then go to an internet cafe before she can leave the country to go on holiday now............

[AlexKP]

I find it hard to believe that anyone intent on nefarious activities is going to log a truthful account of where they are planning to travel to.

And what happens if you are abroad and your travel plans change?

Plus I don't trust the Government to keep any kind of data secure... so....

On balance I think this is an outrageous attack on civil liberties. Again.

[angryS3owner]

Can I say something that's probably not going to go down well, since when did terrorism become so scary... we never needed this stuff when the IRA were successfully killing a lot of people on a much more regular basis so what changed other than the government wanting to 'control' the population?

[SLCZ3]

Make sure the party you vote for at the next election has promised to repeal this.

[krallicious]

So this will be implemented by the next election? FFS. It's none of their fking business when and where I choose to go in the world. How many people will forget to fill in the forms? Are they really going to be able to cope when these people return to the UK? £5000. Go and fk yourselves you utter, utter s.

I have always said that I will never give up my British passport after I moved abroad but when it is possible for me to change my nationality I think I will consider it a lot more.

[chris watton]

anonymous said:

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Which, by the time labour has implimeted it's usual 'them against us' spin on it, will be welcomed with open arms, and all we're hear is the 'Well if you've nothing to hide..." muppets on the propaganda channels.
I agree with angry S3 owner, I remember bombings on a weekly basis, and shootings on a daily basis in the 80's - I don't recall once old Maggie using this as an excuse to curtail the UK population's liberties!

Is this Gordon's idea of creating jobs for the state, to help get us out of the reccession!

Edited by chris watton on Saturday 14th March 10:41

[krallicious]

When is the next general election due? Should it not be this year?

[Arklight]

Wouldn't it be nice if they spent as much time and money regulating and checking people coming into this country.

[thehawk]

This is really unbelievable, and everything around it seems so grey, just like this government likes. What exactly is the government 'watchlist'? Just wait until this list s hooked up with every council, police station and debt collection agency in the UK - "Sorry sir, you owe £32 council tax, I cannot let you through to the boarding area until you return to your local council office and sort the matter out" etc.

The UK is pretty much Eastern Germany without the really nasty bits, they certainly have all the control mechanisms in place.

It needs to end in bloodshed, we need a big terrorist hit on parliament while it is in session to get rid of theses aholes and traitors.

[thehawk]

anonymous said:

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That, and a revenue collection tool. There will have to be charges of course per passenger to maintain it but i think if you owe GST, Tax, Fines etc you can forget about going overseas.

[THX138]

Arklight said:

Wouldn't it be nice if they spent as much time and money regulating and checking people coming into this country.

Bang on!


And the hidden costs of the non-jobs to administrate it all..we will all pay more for our holidays as a result.

And it rather messes up things if you are a backpacker just following your nose for a year doesn't it?

Edited by THX138 on Saturday 14th March 10:58

[Eric Mc]

Won't happen.

How would people move freely across land borders - such as the one that exists between the Irish Republic and Northernm Ireland - not to mention continental Europe where the borders don't really exist in any meaningful way, especially between EU countries.