Need to log travel plans before leaving UK

[s3fella]

MentalSarcasm said:

"They will be expected to use the internet to send their details each time they leave the country and would face a fine of up to £5,000 should they fail to do so."

I would personally donate towards the legal costs of anyone that refused to pay the fine and insisted on being taken to court.

Hell I'd deliberately break the law and get fined myself for my day in court. It is none of their sodding business if I'm going to Nice, Amsterdam or Chicago!

I HATE THIS BLOODY GOVERNMENT!

I think it is proabbly more aimed toward people visiting pakistan for "training", but of course, instead of just making anyone going to pakistan sign up, they have to inconveninece the rest of us too, os as not to be "racist".

[thehawk]

s3fella said:

I think it is proabbly more aimed toward people visiting pakistan for "training", but of course, instead of just making anyone going to pakistan sign up, they have to inconveninece the rest of us too, os as not to be "racist".

I didn't think they went to pakistan for training, everyone always says they go to visit 'family' or do 'charity' work.

[RobDickinson]

I'm so glad I got out when I did...

We can arrange a concert in support of the UK people sometime soon I hope, prehaps in France ...

[Martial Arts Man]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...

Says what we are all thinking.

[FQ110]

Martial Arts Man said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnist...

Says what we are all thinking.

+ fkin 1

[Berserker LM]

Simpo Two said:

Heard this on R4 this morning but can't find it on the BBC website...

Apparently this year there's going to be a new law introduced making us file 'travel plans' before leaving the country. In other words, all they have to do is refuse, and you can't leave.



Is this a plan to stop any more of us emigrating to nicer places? I can't believe they could simply impose this and nobody's noticed.

Love to see them ask my Rottie in the passenger seat. He has his own passport, which the frogs took very seriously. He was picking up on my pissed-offness by this stage and baring his lip. Had to put the rabies id scanner on him myself, lol! Thinking of going to France soon, just for a giggle! In a Corvette! (Oh bugger, they,ve got left/right booths haven't they! Any other ideas?

[Scraggles]

pity they can't stop the immigrants, if they could do that, would not be too bad, but once they come to the land of free benefits, they are sorted for life as nu labia rarely deport anyone

[turbobloke]

Scraggles said:

pity they can't stop the immigrants, if they could do that, would not be too bad, but once they come to the land of free benefits, they are sorted for life as nu labia rarely deport anyone

So in about a year we 'deport' nu labia

[Einion Yrth]

turbobloke said:

Scraggles said:

pity they can't stop the immigrants, if they could do that, would not be too bad, but once they come to the land of free benefits, they are sorted for life as nu labia rarely deport anyone

So in about a year we 'deport' nu labia

I'd prefer 'defenestrate', to be frank.

[turbobloke]

Einion Yrth said:

turbobloke said:

Scraggles said:

pity they can't stop the immigrants, if they could do that, would not be too bad, but once they come to the land of free benefits, they are sorted for life as nu labia rarely deport anyone

So in about a year we 'deport' nu labia

I'd prefer 'defenestrate', to be frank.

and at a great height.

[HUW JONES]

Apologies if this has appeared earlier but I don't have time to check sorry.This e border thing has been trialled at Manchester for last several years (which explains the queues at immigration on return to have your passport scanned).It is another form of control but more importantly will be a revenue raiser eg " you have an outstanding parking ticket so cannot go on hols without paying it" etc etc...like ANPR for humans.

[turbobloke]

HUW JONES said:

like ANPR for humans

Trouble is you're right but 'they' will use that as a positive to argue for it. Lazy law enforcers have never had it so good, the state-molested innocent have never had it so bad.

[BoRED S2upid]

Well ive not read this and wont be letting anyone know where im going this year.

[TimJMS]

I thought my new chip implanted passport gave much of the data anyway? If gubbermint requires further data then people will take the piss. I know I will. fk 'em.

[HUW JONES]

BoRED S2upid said:

Well ive not read this and wont be letting anyone know where im going this year.

Kicks off 2010 so you'll be ok this year (!).
Funniest bit is the need for "e permission " before swimming the Channel or sailing off coast in your boat...and remember it won't be granted if you've used the wrong bin to recycle or parked on a yellow line etc etc.

[Rofly Lollers]

HUW JONES said:

Apologies if this has appeared earlier but I don't have time to check sorry.This e border thing has been trialled at Manchester for last several years (which explains the queues at immigration on return to have your passport scanned).It is another form of control but more importantly will be a revenue raiser eg " you have an outstanding parking ticket so cannot go on hols without paying it" etc etc...like ANPR for humans.

article said:

Exit controls for departure to other countries within the European Union were scrapped by the last Conservative Government. The rest were scrapped by Jack Straw, when he became Home Secretary, after Labour won the election in 1997.

However, passport inspections at ports have gradually been reintroduced as the Government looks to prevent anyone on a Government watchlist fleeing the country.

Anyone on a Government watchlist? That's EVERYONE.

[s3fella]

thehawk said:

s3fella said:

I think it is proabbly more aimed toward people visiting pakistan for "training", but of course, instead of just making anyone going to pakistan sign up, they have to inconveninece the rest of us too, os as not to be "racist".

I didn't think they went to pakistan for training, everyone always says they go to visit 'family' or do 'charity' work.

Yes, but that's a lie cos all their familiy are here!!

[Bushmaster]

Rofly Lollers said:

HUW JONES said:

Apologies if this has appeared earlier but I don't have time to check sorry.This e border thing has been trialled at Manchester for last several years (which explains the queues at immigration on return to have your passport scanned).It is another form of control but more importantly will be a revenue raiser eg " you have an outstanding parking ticket so cannot go on hols without paying it" etc etc...like ANPR for humans.

article said:

Exit controls for departure to other countries within the European Union were scrapped by the last Conservative Government. The rest were scrapped by Jack Straw, when he became Home Secretary, after Labour won the election in 1997.

However, passport inspections at ports have gradually been reintroduced as the Government looks to prevent anyone on a Government watchlist fleeing the country.

Anyone on a Government watchlist? That's EVERYONE.

Prevent anyone on a government watchlist fleeing the country?

Earth to Government: We WANT them to flee the country - just don't let the feckers back in.

[Xaero]

King Herald said:

Xaero said:

Reason for leaving UK: Smuggling drugs and the police are getting close on all those murders I did...

Do they think this sort of thing is going to be written down to make catching criminals easier?

As for trip destination, well if I can't change my mind on where I go then to me that is not being free, and the only reason to live a life without liberty is to fight for liberty itself IMO.

If they are going to fine me for returning to the UK and not declaring that I changed my mind during my trip and went to Italy instead of Spain for example, then it would be simpler (and £5000 cheaper) to not return to the UK...

When I was a bum travelling in India, we had to give all this info at every hotel we stayed at. After a month or two it got tedious, so my occupation varied from child abortionist to arsonist, to prime minister, to rocket scientist, and everywhere in between. My age varied between 3 and 300. Nobody ever questioned it.

I have an idea the UK government might find some strange answers if they actually ever look at the circa 20 million replies people will give every year.

[audidoody]

M3333 said:

I was working in Manchester last Thursday. Driving along minding my own business I was suddenly halted by a police motorcycle, all the traffic behind me stopped and then came a barrage of about 20 motorbikes all surrounding a Range Rover. Inside that Range Rover was our wonderfull PM! Imagine my shock and suprise, I didn't believe it until I got home and checked the Manchester News to see his ugly face 'doing good things' for the people of Manchester. Anyways my point, this trip was not in the national press but the security he had was actually scary, certainly scared me, I would have loved to pic the blackberry up and film or photograph, well I didn't fancy eating porridge, because this state would assume my malice motives in a few mobile pics!!.

Just how utterly deluded is this idiot of a PM and his own crazy views on terrorism? FFS, scary scary times indeed, the man is a pyscho.

Edited by M3333 on Sunday 15th March 09:02

Range Rover? 20 motorbikes? Isn't he supposed to use the train like all of us to save the Planet?