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Well I didn't know they sued the CAA for closing UK airspace during the Ash Cloud debacle, but I would be interested to see a link to that news.
As far as I'm aware they never flew any passengers during the time airspace was closed - so hardly a safety issue is it?
They certainly challenged the decision to close airspace, and were probably entitled to do so if the Met Office were being over cautious? The CAA / Met Office did change their procedures to allow more airspace to remain open during future similar ash clouds.
As far as I'm aware they never flew any passengers during the time airspace was closed - so hardly a safety issue is it?
They certainly challenged the decision to close airspace, and were probably entitled to do so if the Met Office were being over cautious? The CAA / Met Office did change their procedures to allow more airspace to remain open during future similar ash clouds.
Amateurish said:
Why is O'Leary unethical? He is surprisingly honest about the business model. It's a no bulls
t, maximum publicity approach. Ryanair is a classic you get what you pay for business. Cheap point to point travel. Don't pay for any extras.
All airlines offer, by any objective standards, cheap point to point travel. It's pretty cheap to fly to the US, for example.t, maximum publicity approach. Ryanair is a classic you get what you pay for business. Cheap point to point travel. Don't pay for any extras. They're all fine if it works OK. Where RyanAir irritate is that O'Leary simply doesn't believe in customer service - if there's any kind of issue then it's just tough s
t and it'll cost you a fortune to sort it out.Manks said:
swerni said:
Deva Link said:
I love the posts that say RyanAir is fine if play by their rules - what was the OP supposed to do?
I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I'm with you.I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I never have and never ever will get on one of O'leary's planes.
It's a well run company, has a good record for punctuality and it's cheap. The fact that it is also very profitable would suggest that a great many people get a good experience.
They did fight a case all the way for refusing to pay compensation to a passenger affected by the ash cloud: http://news.sky.com/story/1045552/ryanair-loses-eu...
swerni said:
It's a safety issue because the wanted to fly, despite the dangers.
Profit over customer safety. You didn't see Stelios or Branson throwing their toys out the pram
Nice chap.
Like most airlines, they argued that the CAA should not have closed the airspace, or at least not a blanket ban. And like most airlines they asked for compensation. Profit over customer safety. You didn't see Stelios or Branson throwing their toys out the pram
Nice chap.
Honestly, people are so blinkered when it comes to Ryanair.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/19/ba-...
"British Airways today said the chaos caused by the flight ban across much of Europe is costing it between £15m and £20m a day and that it would be seeking compensation from the EU and the UK government."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-24/iceland-v...
"British Airways joined Ryanair Holdings Plc in arguing for a relaxation of rules that ban all operations in areas forecast to have the highest density of ash. "
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/76279...
"Sir Richard Branson has criticised the blanket ban on flights because of the volcanic ash, saying it was ''not the right decision''"
"The Virgin Atlantic boss said the airline lost about £50 million in six days and called for compensation for the industry."
Hackney said:
Amateurish said:
Why is O'Leary unethical? Cheap town-some-distance-from-point to town-similarly-distant-from-point travel.
Fixed that for youHonestly, if you can't be bothered carrying out a 30s google search to find out where the airport is you are flying to, I have little sympathy.
There are plenty of things I don't like about Ryanair:
-s
tty website-grumpy crew
-huge scrums at boarding
But flying to regional airports is not one of them!
swerni said:
Amateurish said:
Why is O'Leary unethical? He is surprisingly honest about the business model. It's a no bullst, maximum publicity approach. Ryanair is a classic you get what you pay for business. Cheap point to point travel. Don't pay for any extras.
So when the ash clouds came over, how many airlines were trying to sue the civil aviation authority because the flights were grounded? t, maximum publicity approach. Ryanair is a classic you get what you pay for business. Cheap point to point travel. Don't pay for any extras. Ryanair has a pretty good safety record, and does not simply roll over when one bureaucracy or another engages in an arse covering exercise.
dazco said:
Manks said:
swerni said:
Deva Link said:
I love the posts that say RyanAir is fine if play by their rules - what was the OP supposed to do?
I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I'm with you.I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I never have and never ever will get on one of O'leary's planes.
It's a well run company, has a good record for punctuality and it's cheap. The fact that it is also very profitable would suggest that a great many people get a good experience.
Manks said:
dazco said:
Manks said:
swerni said:
Deva Link said:
I love the posts that say RyanAir is fine if play by their rules - what was the OP supposed to do?
I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I'm with you.I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I never have and never ever will get on one of O'leary's planes.
It's a well run company, has a good record for punctuality and it's cheap. The fact that it is also very profitable would suggest that a great many people get a good experience.
Flown to Derry a couple of times with them in the past. Never again.
Got exactly what we expected though, cheap flights, no frills. Horrible garish blue and yellow interiors, incessant advertising over the PA system and zero customer service. That is exactly what we paid so little for. Luckily we are in a position that we don't have to take the cheapest option and ergo don't have to use Ryanair.
If there was no alternative, then I would fly with them again, but only as a last resort. Not a relaxing experience.
Got exactly what we expected though, cheap flights, no frills. Horrible garish blue and yellow interiors, incessant advertising over the PA system and zero customer service. That is exactly what we paid so little for. Luckily we are in a position that we don't have to take the cheapest option and ergo don't have to use Ryanair.
If there was no alternative, then I would fly with them again, but only as a last resort. Not a relaxing experience.
dazco said:
Manks said:
dazco said:
Manks said:
swerni said:
Deva Link said:
I love the posts that say RyanAir is fine if play by their rules - what was the OP supposed to do?
I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I'm with you.I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I never have and never ever will get on one of O'leary's planes.
It's a well run company, has a good record for punctuality and it's cheap. The fact that it is also very profitable would suggest that a great many people get a good experience.
The only real difference (other than unallocated seating, which personally doesnt bother me) was Ryanair were constantly trying to flog me stuff.. however, having spent my teenage years in Yorkshire, i found you can walk off the plane with a smug look, knowing you didnt provide any more funding than ticket price.
chr15b said:
dazco said:
Manks said:
dazco said:
Manks said:
swerni said:
Deva Link said:
I love the posts that say RyanAir is fine if play by their rules - what was the OP supposed to do?
I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I'm with you.I've vowed never to fly with RyanAir - I just don't need that kind of hassle in my life. If they're the only way of getting somewhere then I wouldn't go.
I never have and never ever will get on one of O'leary's planes.
It's a well run company, has a good record for punctuality and it's cheap. The fact that it is also very profitable would suggest that a great many people get a good experience.
The only real difference (other than unallocated seating, which personally doesnt bother me) was Ryanair were constantly trying to flog me stuff.. however, having spent my teenage years in Yorkshire, i found you can walk off the plane with a smug look, knowing you didnt provide any more funding than ticket price.
chr15b said:
I've flown both BA and Ryanair to Dublin from Manchester.. in terms of flight on time, boarding and exiting, and flight comfort i'd say they were on a par, the Ryanair flight was a couple of hundred quid cheaper.
The only real difference (other than unallocated seating, which personally doesnt bother me) was Ryanair were constantly trying to flog me stuff.. however, having spent my teenage years in Yorkshire, i found you can walk off the plane with a smug look, knowing you didnt provide any more funding than ticket price.
I've seen cabin staff look genuinely offended when I put my earphones in (long after take off) and completely ignore the "Sir... sir... tea sir... sir... SIR".The only real difference (other than unallocated seating, which personally doesnt bother me) was Ryanair were constantly trying to flog me stuff.. however, having spent my teenage years in Yorkshire, i found you can walk off the plane with a smug look, knowing you didnt provide any more funding than ticket price.
Amateurish said:
Hackney said:
Amateurish said:
Why is O'Leary unethical? Cheap town-some-distance-from-point to town-similarly-distant-from-point travel.
Fixed that for youHonestly, if you can't be bothered carrying out a 30s google search to find out where the airport is you are flying to, I have little sympathy.
There are plenty of things I don't like about Ryanair:
-s
tty website-grumpy crew
-huge scrums at boarding
But flying to regional airports is not one of them!
Ryanair are famous for claiming to fly you to a destination and it not actually being near said city.
I particularly like their claim of getting you from London to Brussels quicker than Eurostar was proven to be a complete lie. (Luton to somewhere an hour from Brussels) compared to Eurostar city centre to city centre.
Ryan air is s**t. If they were cheap and no frills that would be ok. But they lie, they discriminate and they assume they've done something worthy of a fanfare when you land at the time you were supposed to.
Hackney said:
Googling where an airport is and being able to move it near to where Ryanair say it is are two different things.
Ryanair are famous for claiming to fly you to a destination and it not actually being near said city.
I particularly like their claim of getting you from London to Brussels quicker than Eurostar was proven to be a complete lie. (Luton to somewhere an hour from Brussels) compared to Eurostar city centre to city centre.
Ryan air is s**t. If they were cheap and no frills that would be ok. But they lie, they discriminate and they assume they've done something worthy of a fanfare when you land at the time you were supposed to.
You are right, Luton is not in London. Ryanair is obviously the only airline flying out of Luton to refer to it as London-Luton. Ryanair are famous for claiming to fly you to a destination and it not actually being near said city.
I particularly like their claim of getting you from London to Brussels quicker than Eurostar was proven to be a complete lie. (Luton to somewhere an hour from Brussels) compared to Eurostar city centre to city centre.
Ryan air is s**t. If they were cheap and no frills that would be ok. But they lie, they discriminate and they assume they've done something worthy of a fanfare when you land at the time you were supposed to.
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