Vegas for a stag do

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Chucklehead

2,745 posts

210 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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for hotel choice - the Encore is the little brother of the Wynn hotel, and the two are directly connected. Encore has the best pool party scene, and the best DJs.

covmutley

3,049 posts

192 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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richatnort said:
covmutley said:
Perhaps you and your mates are all earning 6 figure salaries, but I would be a bit pissed off if a good mate decided on L.V and I expect many of my old uni mates (i.e all in professional jobs) would not go.

I was glad to have all my mates around me on mine.
i only have a small group of friends anyway who aren't on the poverty line and who would tell me if they can't afford it but none have
Fair enough. Re-reading my post, it comes across a bit arsey. it wasnt meant that way- more that you should just check your plans are not leaving out best mates you would hope will be there or inadvertently getting them into trouble with other halves!

200Plus Club

10,848 posts

280 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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If you want to shoot semi auto machine guns and pistols it's about £150 for a few hours fun at one of the gun ranges in vegas. Shooting a Tommy gun and a .50 desert eagle was cool.
You can also hire a classic 50s or 60s V8 and cruise the strip quite reasonably.

theplayingmantis

3,916 posts

84 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Chucklehead said:
for hotel choice - the Encore is the little brother of the Wynn hotel, and the two are directly connected. Encore has the best pool party scene, and the best DJs.
younger brother is more apt

theplayingmantis

3,916 posts

84 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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ikarl said:
Just back from Vegas and going again in January. Budget of 2k is fine for spending. Flights and accom will likely be over and above that though... As everyone has said above, fly direct. normally c.£600 return though if you're willing to get a cheap flight to Dublin and fly from there (normally flying back to London) you can get return flights for as little as £350 because you're not paying UK flight taxes...... have a look on the BA site and work it out... you'll spend more time away from home but can save £200 - I've done it a few times, but now just bite the bullet and pay the extra as I need to add another day to my holiday as I fly from Scotland.
Accommodation - I'll go into it a bit below, but again, probably c.£600/week

Food can be as cheap or as dear as you want it to be -
examples; Aria dinner buffet is $45, but is great for a group because there's so much choice and the quality is very good; Wahlburgers will do an amazing burger/fries/drink for $25; Mexican food isn't great but is cheap enough at $15 for a decent'ish meal from one of the many places; Chinese fastfood at a HappyPanda place is $10 and is actually quite good. Oh, and n NewYork NewYork there is a decent Steak place (Gallaghers) budget $70-$100/head but the steak's are excellent.

Drink if in a casino and playing is free, if doing this though be very specific about what you want. Don't ask for a vodka/soda - instead ask for a GreyGoose/soda! Drinks at the casino bars are expensive - beer/vodka will be between $8- $12.

Pre-going to a club - in NYNY there is a Coyote Ugly's - get there before 9pm and you get free entry and a 2-4-1 on drinks..... pretty decent laugh if in and get involved in dancing about a bit..... once they know you're there for a Stag (bachelor) party and from the UK you'll meet loads of different people and probably get free shots/drinks - we certainly did.

Clubbing, Marquee at Cosmopolitan is excellent!! $40 for guys to get in. $15 for a vodka/sprite (though the vodka is Belvedere and it makes up 60% (measures are LARGE) of the drink but is very moorish when in a club!
Chateau Nightclub at the Paris is also very good and sits as an open air club under the tower - mainly R&B music but quite a good vibe/laugh - again, prices at all clubs are similar for entry/drinks - the drinks are decent and the measures much stronger than you'll be used to - 3 vodka's and most people will be drunk, so for $45 (roughly £40) it's not actually too bad. I have a decent tolerance for drink and felt really tipsy after 3 drinks.
Hakkasan - we went to see Tiesto and I think we paid $45 - always pre-buy the tickets, it's slightly cheaper and you get in much quicker. drinks slightly more, vodka/mixer was $20 but quality and measure was as above.

Dress code for clubs is more relaxed than is advertised..... Hakkasan do insist on trousers/jeans etc.. but I went wearing white pumps which was fine. Look smart and not pissed and you'll get in no problem.

If you go, try and find one of the guys kicking about the strip trying to sell club passes queue jumps (guy that helped us out was wearing red tshirts and lanyards - quite a few of these guys kicking about) - we met a guy from Manchester who told us which clubs to go to before a certain time to get in for free - Chateau we were in at 10:55 and didn't cost us anything to get in - 5 minutes later and it would have been $40.
Obviously they do this so you 'tip' them - there was 5 of us so we bunged him $50 and he was happy to help us out for the rest of the week - some places gave us a free drink when he took us in...... bargain!!

Accommodation - check out the Polo Towers - I've been to Vegas loads and without a doubt it's the most suitable for a group. We had 2x 2bedroom suites and a 1 bedroom suite. Each had a living area, completely separate rooms, fully fitted kitchen (ideal for breakfast or getting a drink before heading out) and very importantly everyone had their own bathroom - I don't want to share a bathroom with another guy whilst on holiday.
Location wise it's pretty central to NYNY, MGM, Aria, Bellagio and Planet Holywood.... there is no casino or bar in the hotel which means it's a bit more relaxing - also has a roof pool and hot tub... open till midnight. Surprising how good that can work out!!
Between the 5 of us it worked out to just a tad over £3000. So £600/head.
We went to Walmart on the first day and stocked up on booze and breakfast and snacks.... booze was cheap but normal groceries are surprisingly expensive - which I can understand as pretty much EVERYTHING is imported to Vegas.... constant stream of big rigs coming/going into Vegas.

if you want to know anything else, post a reply and I'll try and answer best I can
OP, some good but lot of bad advise on this thread above post being a case in point. (in that it has good tips and bad...its a curates egg of a post)

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theplayingmantis

3,916 posts

84 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Right OP, it all depends how long you want to be there and how much you are willing to spend.

Spring and september are the best times, the weather isnt ridiculous as it is in the summer and its busy. Summer and winter are cheaper, winter cos the weather is less predictable, although in reality plenty hot enough for us Brits, if a bit nippy at night, but no pool parties bar halfway to edc in feb. Summer is cheap as its stupid hot.

You need to go over a weekend really, minimum 4 nights, ideally 5 and you can have a recovery night.

Thursday to Tuesday is a good idea, midday flight Thursday, and it must be direct as its a faf othewise and harder to acclimatise quickly. If you must save money fly indirect back...i wouldnt as been stuck in a chicago snowstorm for 8 hours so my mate could save 200 quid - but if moneys an issue its worth it and it wont impinge on your vegas time or mess tire you out as it would outbound. I prefre Virgin to BA if i can to get out there, as the BA planes they use are a bit tired, or were last time i used BA to go, im going with BA again in April so may have changed.

hotels, you wont spend that much time in the room, but still its nice to have a decent room especially if its a one off for you. Location you must be mid strip if your a first timer (theres better hotels at the end, Wynn resorts, but the locations not great if you want to expereince it all). As such id suggest Cosmo, Aria or Vdara. All very nice, Vdara has no casino, which is a negative on a stag as you cant drunkenly get up at random times for a quick game of BJ, buts its got nice rooms. Cosmo has a great vibe and a younger crowd but is a bit batered innplaces despite most being very nice and plush. Also has a great club and pool party at Marquee. Id stay there if i was you. Corner suites are nice, and some rooms have balconies which are good for ing out on after a hard night if you cant be arsed to struggle down to the pool.

You cant really eat badly on any budget, you can get cheap good food in loads of places (in and out and chik a fil if you like fast food that makes a mockery of the crap we get over here), and high end although avoid Jean Georges steakhouse in aria as its awful despite its repuation. The best meal i have had was in SW steakhouse in the Wynn. You must do a brunch buffet as a first timer, and its decent value if you have some fatties in your group or pigs, baccanal in Caesars is best imo, but wicked spoon in cosmo runs it close.

Gambling, learn craps. just do it. the basic bets, and thats all you need as the others are too complex and for bell ends, are simple to learn despite seeming arcane, its a load of fun, but as english people whatever game your playing unless your in some cheap downtown casinos, you will have loads of banter with other american players and most dealers. Dont buy drinks in hotel bars or lounges unless you really want to when your planning on gambling too, as although casinos are cracking down on comps, and you wont get the liquour you ask for in lots of places (even if you are specific), and pours are being reigned in, its still the best way to get drunk (if you want). Just tip the waitress when she comes to your table generously (example if you and a couple of ,mates are playing on a table and you tip her $20 the first time) she will keep cominmg back promptly. You can order more than one drink as well each time if you so wish, so if you want 2 drinks or have mates who arnet gambling you can order for them and she will bring them regardless. Its every economical way to drink in LV.

Go to Wallgreens on the first day and stock up on soda and munchies and other hangover helper items that you wont feel like buying when into the holiday (there not any more pricey than other major cities) and booze if you really want, although there really no need.

Pool parties are a must, but theres no point unless you are going to get daybeds or a cabana and even more so if this is a one time only thing or first time. You will have to pay a lot, but you will get most of it back in booze and food tab, and itys a must imo. Pool parties can be long days and you want somewhere to relax. its worth paying extra for poolside ones too, as its great banter.

Same with clubs and again even more so if this is a one time only thing or first time, there no really no point going unless your going to get table service and table in a decent place. Do your research on table maps. As a group of men you will payat least $50 for the decent clubs on a popular night, and have to queue for ages and have to queue for ages in the club whenever you want a drink which you will do well to get cheaper than $20. the table service is procey again, but you will get a lot of it back in what you would have spent in booze, and when you factor in the entrance fee, the convenience of walking straight in, the dedicated waitress and security, and VIP treatment its more than worth it. Plus you can wear whatever you want within reason with table service, and if you so wish bring things you shouldnt in, and behave outrageously (which occasionally happens on a stag) without being chucked out as you would as just someone who's bought a ticket to get in. Also might be wortth considering your own security guards in the club, its quite funny having 2 brick st houses push there way through the dance floor infront and behind you clearing a way...
Omnia on a saturday night is a must if its still called that when you go.

Do not buy club passes or line jumpers from people selling them on the strip. just dont.

Persoanlly i dont like downtown/fremont street, but gambling can be fun in some of the fremont street casinos simply for the fellow clientele - rednecks and trailer trash are a lot more prevelant, and they are good fun.

Strip clubs, if thats your cup of tea (and on a stag it has to be done once), there are only 2 full nude ones that serve booze. the others are either topless and sell booze, or full nude and no booze. (reason being local laws about booze and nudity that the 2 aforementioned get around through grandfathering), palaminos is really the best by far, but dont organise anything for them its best to do it off the cuff with your VIP host, and negotiate hard at the club too as they will give you a silly price but easy to get them down to something cheap.

finally id suggest geting a fixer to sort the clubs table service, pool parties, strip clubs, and shooting etc out for you. You tell them the kinda thing you want, the number of people, the dates and they will give you loads of options and recommendations, and do all the legwork for you. I would recommend Red Carpet VIP Las Vegas (vipnite.com) Jeff (Vegas Jeff), Hiram and Andre are always very good. Jeff may come across a s a bit of a nob but hes a good guy. You can call your fixer anytime night or day to arrange stuff off the cuff and they will go well out of their way to sort you out and make sure you get what you want... the biggest or smallest things they can sort at short notice. example the first time we used this, we called our guy at 3am from the golden nugget as the groom wanted to go to a strip club. he arranged a limo with free booze and a ridculously cheap table and free entry with a big alcohol allowance within 5 minutes for a group of 9 of us, as well as one picking us up taking us back to hotel in the morning.

For a stag i wouldnt bother with and day trips or chopper rides, etc.

ikarl

3,733 posts

201 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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theplayingmantis said:
OP, some good but lots lot of bad advise on this thread above post being a case in point.
Why is that bad advice?

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Opinions are like a-holes...everyone's got one.

Ranger 6

7,074 posts

251 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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This is worth looking at - I took my son as part of a road trip and well worth it.

http://www.americanadventuretours.com/RZR_extreme....

captain_cynic

12,356 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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richatnort said:
So i'm getting married in 2019 and have always liked the idea of going to Vegas for the stag do.

My mates seem pretty on board but we are all talking about how much are we realistically going to spend. I'm wondering if there are any season travellers to Vegas who can give a break down on costs of stuff while out there.

Obviously we will want to go to pool parties, clubs to see a big act, i'd like to do some shooting and then obviously we have food every night and drinks. We're all keeping an eye on flights and accommodation but are there any times in the year where flights are cheaper then other (out of the school holidays as none of my friends are teachers luckily).

Hope people can help.
Not sure about flights as all my trips has been from the other side of the world... But I'd budget US$1-200 per day just for spending money. Accommodation can be as cheap or as expensive as you like. A hotel on the strip would cost around $70 per night (higher on the weekends, lower on the weekdays) Off strip accommodation can get as low as $35 per night.

Shows and acts, they vary but i'd say $100 per show so how many you want to see will dictate your spending money.

Meals, you can spend $5 at McD's, $10-20 for a decent diner, $20-40 for a proper sit down meal or spend $200+ pp on a high end restaurant. Vegas is really meant to fit most budgets.

A hire car (rental in English(Simplified)) is anything from $20 to $500 per day depending on if you want a Toyota Yaris or a Fezza (I believe at one point I found a Lambo for $200 p/d) but if you're going to be the stereotypical tourist, a 'Stang should be about $50ish a day. I usually rent a car in Vegas as I like to see things outside of Vegas. Driving in Vegas is pretty good, you'll be astounded at six lane road and the complete lack of roundabouts. Drivers are relatively well behaved too.

PROTIP: Keep a roll of singles ($1 notes) for tipping, you tip everyone in Vegas, the bloke who opens the door for you, the taxi driver, the valet who parks your car, the wait staff... everybody. Being frugal, you're probably tipping $20 a day.

October/November ish is a cheap season, past the (school) holidays but not quite into the Christmas holiday and the climate is quite nice in Nevada around that time of the year. This wont reduce the price of most things (only flights and acom will be noticeably cheaper), but the crowds will be less making it easier to get into shows and what not.


captain_cynic

12,356 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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richatnort said:
So i'm getting married in 2019 and have always liked the idea of going to Vegas for the stag do.
Some Marriage specific information.

My sister got married in Vegas, the wedding cost her US$5000... in total. She got a package with Ceasars palace that included a room and the ceremony in what was a nice private garden by the pool (very quiet too, considering how close it was to the swimming pools), she had to pay for the celebrant, photographer and marriage license seperately (IIRC, that was a whopping $37) but it was all under $5000 USD for 30 guests.

This also included a reception at a choice different restaurants, As a wedding gift I paid for the booze which was a bit under $1000 USD.

captain_cynic

12,356 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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keirik said:
it must be an age thing as I went to Vegas and hated every moment of it


unless you want to see strippers and gamble there's no point (so I guess its perfect for a stag do)
Vegas is pretty family friendly now. Long gone are the days of strippers/streetwalkers everywhere. Its all Neon lights and shopping malls.

However for me, the things I liked about Vegas were all outside of Vegas. Red Rock canyon, Hoover Dam and Mt Charleston are a short drive, other attractions in the Mohave are easily there and back within a day if you hire a car. There is plenty more to Vegas than gambling... or even Vegas itself.

surveyor

17,903 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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captain_cynic said:
richatnort said:
So i'm getting married in 2019 and have always liked the idea of going to Vegas for the stag do.
Some Marriage specific information.

My sister got married in Vegas, the wedding cost her US$5000... in total. She got a package with Ceasars palace that included a room and the ceremony in what was a nice private garden by the pool (very quiet too, considering how close it was to the swimming pools), she had to pay for the celebrant, photographer and marriage license seperately (IIRC, that was a whopping $37) but it was all under $5000 USD for 30 guests.

This also included a reception at a choice different restaurants, As a wedding gift I paid for the booze which was a bit under $1000 USD.
I also got married in Vegas. Small wedding as my wife'f family are aholes and would not travel, my parents dropped out at the last minute due to health problems... I think we spent around £3,500. That includes the flights, the hotel, the wedding and fee's, and the honeymoon in Florida....

It was not meant to be cheap, but a wedding for us and splashing the cash on glitz and glamour was not the way we wanted to go...

  • It did go a bit wrong. We chose a beautiful public park. Normally quiet. Not so much on Memorial Day. We at least had an audience after all....

Yipper

5,964 posts

92 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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As others have said, it will probably need a minimum of £2k.

Vegas is in a bit of decline, so go with an open mind and don't expect it to be exactly like the movies. Macau is better for gambling, Prague is better for adult stuff, while Ibiza is better for up in the club. Try to visit a gun range, the high mountains and low canyons outside town -- assuming getting smashed every day is not the priority.

Jag_NE

3,019 posts

102 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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captain_cynic said:
Not sure about flights as all my trips has been from the other side of the world... But I'd budget US$1-200 per day just for spending money. Accommodation can be as cheap or as expensive as you like. A hotel on the strip would cost around $70 per night (higher on the weekends, lower on the weekdays) Off strip accommodation can get as low as $35 per night.

Shows and acts, they vary but i'd say $100 per show so how many you want to see will dictate your spending money.

Meals, you can spend $5 at McD's, $10-20 for a decent diner, $20-40 for a proper sit down meal or spend $200+ pp on a high end restaurant. Vegas is really meant to fit most budgets.

A hire car (rental in English(Simplified)) is anything from $20 to $500 per day depending on if you want a Toyota Yaris or a Fezza (I believe at one point I found a Lambo for $200 p/d) but if you're going to be the stereotypical tourist, a 'Stang should be about $50ish a day. I usually rent a car in Vegas as I like to see things outside of Vegas. Driving in Vegas is pretty good, you'll be astounded at six lane road and the complete lack of roundabouts. Drivers are relatively well behaved too.

PROTIP: Keep a roll of singles ($1 notes) for tipping, you tip everyone in Vegas, the bloke who opens the door for you, the taxi driver, the valet who parks your car, the wait staff... everybody. Being frugal, you're probably tipping $20 a day.

October/November ish is a cheap season, past the (school) holidays but not quite into the Christmas holiday and the climate is quite nice in Nevada around that time of the year. This wont reduce the price of most things (only flights and acom will be noticeably cheaper), but the crowds will be less making it easier to get into shows and what not.

do ATM's give out multiple singles if you ask for them?

captain_cynic

12,356 posts

97 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Jag_NE said:
do ATM's give out multiple singles if you ask for them?
Never seen an American ATM give out anything but $20's.

However any casino in Vegas will happily swap a $20 for singles at the change booths. The door openers will probably swap for a $20 as well.

Truckosaurus

11,472 posts

286 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Yipper said:
...Vegas is in a bit of decline....
The only way it is declining is that the cost of a trip has gone up in the last couple of years as the number of visitors has reached record numbers, Americans have got more money to spend as their economy has improved from the down turn of the last decade, and the resorts are now making more money from selling hotel rooms and from bars and restaurants than from the gambling.

theplayingmantis said:
...Personally i dont like downtown/fremont street...
Things The Strip is better for:
Admiring the mega-casinos.
Going to Night Clubs.
Eating at Celebrity Chef restaurants.
Attending big name shows.
Gambling as levels such as $25+ per hand at Blackjack or per unit at Craps.

Things Downtown is better for:
Slot Machine and video poker gambling.
Tables games at lower stakes.
Eating and Drinking at independent/trendy (dare one say 'hipster'?) bars and restaurants.

I find that there are similar volumes of vagrants and pan-handlers on The Strip as there are Downtown and the general tourist clientèle wandering around seem to be of similar demographics in both areas.

Truckosaurus

11,472 posts

286 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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captain_cynic said:
However any casino in Vegas will happily swap a $20 for singles at the change booths. The door openers will probably swap for a $20 as well.
Within the casinos there is usually a 'Bill Changer' machine next to the ATM so you can split large bills down (or cash in slot machine pay out vouchers).

theplayingmantis

3,916 posts

84 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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ikarl said:
Why is that bad advice?
for starters the club advise and the buying passes of people peddling them on the strip, not to mention bits which are factually incorrect.

but hey im a vegas pedant.

theplayingmantis

3,916 posts

84 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Yipper said:
As others have said, it will probably need a minimum of £2k.

Vegas is in a bit of decline, so go with an open mind and don't expect it to be exactly like the movies. Macau is better for gambling, Prague is better for adult stuff, while Ibiza is better for up in the club. Try to visit a gun range, the high mountains and low canyons outside town -- assuming getting smashed every day is not the priority.
Vegas has all these things so rather than having to visit all those places you can get a single hit in one location...

Please elaborate on why you think its on the decline? Odd that you think this when the developers are just starting to think the complete opposite and finally breaking ground and making tentative moves on new resorts...