Can someone make me feel a bit better about flying?
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//j17 said:
Mark. said:
Sit at the back, planes never reverse in to mountains...
Actually they do - in a CFIT (Controlled Flight Into Terrain) situation it's often the tail that hits first, shortly after "Oh ****!" has been recoded on the cockpit voice recorder and the pilots have pulled the nose up to try and avoid said terrain.There was a large meta-analysis of accident records a few years ago that looked at survival rates vs seat position and found that it didn't make any difference where you sat - unless you knew how the plane was going to crash before it did it.
OP - you are doomed.
Best way to go would be for the cabin conditioning to fail so you all pass out due to lack of oxygen, at least you won't know anything about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight...
I always enjoy the safety brief.
"When hearing "Brace, Brace" adopt this position" Rubbish upon hearing "Brace, Brace" sit up, take your fags out and have one last puff before you are obliterated in a big fireball.
and
"In the event of landing on water, life vests are situated under your seat"
Reality check! In the event of landing on water the plane will probably disintegrate into thousands of pieces (Unless you are lucky enough to have the pilot who landed in the Hudson.
Seriously though,noise cancelling ear phones and some gentle music.(I normallly listen to the soundtrack from the film Drive) Try and avoid too much booze and keep well hydrated.
PS Enjoy Vegas
"When hearing "Brace, Brace" adopt this position" Rubbish upon hearing "Brace, Brace" sit up, take your fags out and have one last puff before you are obliterated in a big fireball.
and
"In the event of landing on water, life vests are situated under your seat"
Reality check! In the event of landing on water the plane will probably disintegrate into thousands of pieces (Unless you are lucky enough to have the pilot who landed in the Hudson.
Seriously though,noise cancelling ear phones and some gentle music.(I normallly listen to the soundtrack from the film Drive) Try and avoid too much booze and keep well hydrated.
PS Enjoy Vegas
Sit towards the back
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216653/Wo...
Oh and have a nice flight....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216653/Wo...
Oh and have a nice flight....
no effort said:
Sit towards the back
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216653/Wo...
Oh and have a nice flight....
That idea of mine was shot down earlier.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216653/Wo...
Oh and have a nice flight....
Don't worry about the wings falling off. Metal fatigue will pop the rivets out of the fuselage before that happens.
Seriously - flying transatlantic is as safe as any safe thing can be these days. You'd have to make around 10 million flights on a top airline before you were killed in a crash. That's one flight a day for around 27,000 years.
Sit back. Enjoy the ride. Worry more about catching a stray round from a drive-by shooting on the Strip outside your hotel!
Seriously - flying transatlantic is as safe as any safe thing can be these days. You'd have to make around 10 million flights on a top airline before you were killed in a crash. That's one flight a day for around 27,000 years.
Sit back. Enjoy the ride. Worry more about catching a stray round from a drive-by shooting on the Strip outside your hotel!
If you do get something from the doctor, test it before you fly.
Or you'll end up doing what I did and taking twice the prescribed amount (to make sure!) an hour before departure, get on the plane, sit down for 30 seconds then practically push the stewardess and other passengers aside in the rush to get the hell off the plane as the pills didn't actually work. The plane was then delayed while they got our bags off. The other half was less than impressed I can tell you.
Or you'll end up doing what I did and taking twice the prescribed amount (to make sure!) an hour before departure, get on the plane, sit down for 30 seconds then practically push the stewardess and other passengers aside in the rush to get the hell off the plane as the pills didn't actually work. The plane was then delayed while they got our bags off. The other half was less than impressed I can tell you.
No matter what anyone says, flying is inherently dangerous. The consequences of mishaps are potentially huge. That's why aircraft manufacturers and operators do as much as economically possible to minimise the risks. Just consider your flights to Vegas as getting some early gambling in, but with the odds stacked heavily in your favour 
Bradgate said:
The total number of people killed on Britain's roads last year was 1900. The total number of deaths in UK commercial aviation was zero.
Yes, zero. It was zero in 2011, too.
The total number of deaths in US commercial aviation was also zero. For the fourth consecutive year.
The difference between many people's perception of the dangers of flying and reality is huge. As others have said, the most dangerous part of your journey will be the drives to and from the airports.
I'd say that makes it about time something fatal happened. Don't do it OP!!!Yes, zero. It was zero in 2011, too.
The total number of deaths in US commercial aviation was also zero. For the fourth consecutive year.
The difference between many people's perception of the dangers of flying and reality is huge. As others have said, the most dangerous part of your journey will be the drives to and from the airports.
no effort said:
Sit towards the back
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216653/Wo...
Oh and have a nice flight....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216653/Wo...
Oh and have a nice flight....
Daily Fail said:
And its conclusion was that despite having the best seats and service on the plane, being in first or business class makes you less likely to survive a crash landing.
Unlike the Daily Fail's Martin Robinson and Simon Tomlinson I actually watched and PAID ATTENTION to the C4 show and this is NOT what they concluded. The concluded that IN THIS CRASH mortality and injury rates decreased the further back you were in the plane. They then added (admittedly only right at the end of the show) that the pattern is different for different types of crash and that analysis of all accidents revealed there was no statistically relevant difference between seat position and injury/mortality rates.If they had crashed with the landing gear in the up position (probably the best option if landing on a soft, unprepared surface like a desert) it would have been a very different crash. If you watch the footage you see that things aren't going too badly (for a crash) until the nose wheel touches down.
This then digs in to the desert surface, causing the main fuselage to fail just behind the front gear (and making it a bad day for anyone in that part of the plane.
Had the gear been up this wouldn't have happened (which is not to say everyone would have been fine, or that it would have ended better for anyone, just that something else would have happened).
I am probably the last person who should post on this thread since I have been in two plane crashes (Beechcraft charter flight in PNG and Garuda 737 in Indonesia) and had a near miss on a third (Singapore Airlines 747 in Taiwan - I missed the flight check in by 25 mins). That might seem unlucky to you but when you consider I have flown over 2 million miles and in a LOT of third world countries with crappy aviation safety records, I feel pretty good today! I still rack up 150,000 miles a year in a plane.
Lets face it the odds are with you on this flight:
- decent airline with a good safety record.
- modern reliable jet aircraft with a good safety record.
- top notch airports with pretty good safety records.
In reality you have more chance of dying of starvation or thirst from being unable to get the attention of some flight attendant flunkey. I personally would be more worried about the TSA body cavity search awaiting you in Atlanta as a welcoming gift.
I understand your fears are real to you but you can overcome them. Try the following:
- have a drink in the bar before the flight. I find 2 x double bacardi and cokes work wonders when I have to get my mother on a plane with only 2 engines.
She hates flying for the same reasons as you - but she loves the destination.
- do one of those fearful flyer courses that Virgin and other airlines run.
- distract yourself with a problem or something to solve - I always like to strategize how I can break my virginity in the mile high club with something pert and cute onboard. Keeps me distracted for hours.
- A self-help audio course or book to keep you focused and calm.
- if you are at the window then shut the blind and dont look down
- focus on the destination and all the good and naughty things that you can do in Vegas where you are headed.
- stay up 36 hours before your flight so that when you get onboard you are so tired you fall asleep and miss the first half of the flight.
You can do it - just enjoy yourself when you get there!
Lets face it the odds are with you on this flight:
- decent airline with a good safety record.
- modern reliable jet aircraft with a good safety record.
- top notch airports with pretty good safety records.
In reality you have more chance of dying of starvation or thirst from being unable to get the attention of some flight attendant flunkey. I personally would be more worried about the TSA body cavity search awaiting you in Atlanta as a welcoming gift.
I understand your fears are real to you but you can overcome them. Try the following:
- have a drink in the bar before the flight. I find 2 x double bacardi and cokes work wonders when I have to get my mother on a plane with only 2 engines.
She hates flying for the same reasons as you - but she loves the destination.- do one of those fearful flyer courses that Virgin and other airlines run.
- distract yourself with a problem or something to solve - I always like to strategize how I can break my virginity in the mile high club with something pert and cute onboard. Keeps me distracted for hours.
- A self-help audio course or book to keep you focused and calm.
- if you are at the window then shut the blind and dont look down
- focus on the destination and all the good and naughty things that you can do in Vegas where you are headed.
- stay up 36 hours before your flight so that when you get onboard you are so tired you fall asleep and miss the first half of the flight.
You can do it - just enjoy yourself when you get there!
Well.. I'm BACK!
That was absolutely horrible, I hated every minute of it.. Turbulence on the way back was pretty much non stop, then there was a bit for about 5 seconds where I thought I was a gonner. How the plane stopped in the sky I've no idea.
The holiday was great though. Vegas is a strange place! I'd like to go back but doubt I will because of the flights..
Cheers for the suggestions.
That was absolutely horrible, I hated every minute of it.. Turbulence on the way back was pretty much non stop, then there was a bit for about 5 seconds where I thought I was a gonner. How the plane stopped in the sky I've no idea.
The holiday was great though. Vegas is a strange place! I'd like to go back but doubt I will because of the flights..
Cheers for the suggestions.
philmots said:
Well.. I'm BACK!
That was absolutely horrible, I hated every minute of it.. Turbulence on the way back was pretty much non stop, then there was a bit for about 5 seconds where I thought I was a gonner. How the plane stopped in the sky I've no idea.
The holiday was great though. Vegas is a strange place! I'd like to go back but doubt I will because of the flights..
Cheers for the suggestions.
Although I go to the us twice a year at least, I get sweaty palms on take off and landing. I find a glass (or two,ish) of champagne makes it easier! I have been to Vegas every year for twenty years, no longer than three days though, thats enough. How long was your trip? That was absolutely horrible, I hated every minute of it.. Turbulence on the way back was pretty much non stop, then there was a bit for about 5 seconds where I thought I was a gonner. How the plane stopped in the sky I've no idea.
The holiday was great though. Vegas is a strange place! I'd like to go back but doubt I will because of the flights..
Cheers for the suggestions.
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