Summer Holidays 2021
Discussion
TUI emailed us yesterday to say that they have cancelled our April trip to La Palma 
Want to know if we would like to book something else later but I can't be bothered anymore.
That holiday was originally Greece last Sept which in turn was a break in Madeira back last April.
I book holidays for something to look forward to and plan for, not as a vague hope that they might happen.
Want to know if we would like to book something else later but I can't be bothered anymore.
That holiday was originally Greece last Sept which in turn was a break in Madeira back last April.
I book holidays for something to look forward to and plan for, not as a vague hope that they might happen.
We never book more than 3 weeks out tbh, just an agreement between us that we’ll go away in month xx, probably the best solution in the current enviroment.
We’re negotiating a 2mth stay in a marbella villa at the moment for early February but we’ll only pay 1 month at a time and the first payment 3 days before we set off.
To be fair some of the owners are offering full refunds in the event of lockdown on either side but in this climate i’m sceptical that £30k would be refunded in the current climate where people are struggling, if we had to leave 1/2 way through 1mth then we’d have to be prepared to say goodbye to 7.5k (though we’d test their refund offer)
Everywhere is empty down there so they’re having to be more flexible than normal.
Be nice if restaurants are still open (currently are) but we’re not that bothered, more there for walks into hills with dogs, electric bikes into the hills, swimming (heated to 27°), beach cycles without masks (walking is masks) 17-20° day temps so pretty nice.
Fingers crossed!
We’re negotiating a 2mth stay in a marbella villa at the moment for early February but we’ll only pay 1 month at a time and the first payment 3 days before we set off.
To be fair some of the owners are offering full refunds in the event of lockdown on either side but in this climate i’m sceptical that £30k would be refunded in the current climate where people are struggling, if we had to leave 1/2 way through 1mth then we’d have to be prepared to say goodbye to 7.5k (though we’d test their refund offer)
Everywhere is empty down there so they’re having to be more flexible than normal.
Be nice if restaurants are still open (currently are) but we’re not that bothered, more there for walks into hills with dogs, electric bikes into the hills, swimming (heated to 27°), beach cycles without masks (walking is masks) 17-20° day temps so pretty nice.
Fingers crossed!
bobbysmithy said:
Couldn’t walk around in a mask in the heat
I have to say normally we just book a villa and do our own thing, but this time we've booked an all inclusive hotel on the basis that if you are having to wear a mask when up and moving about in the complex you're in a cool / air conditioned environment, rather than a walk in the heat to a restaurant or bar.Not ideal by any means, but i think if we were to leave it until restrictions were lifted to the point of near normality, it could be 2022 or beyond before we got a formal holiday.
We‘ve booked an apartment in Riva del Garda over Easter. It‘s a 5 hour drive from here and is refundable until 5 days before. If that part of Italy is looking less locked down, we‘ll go. If not, no big deal.
We‘ve also rebooked St. Lucia from last April to June this year. Our difficulty here is going to be flying into London from Switzerland and overnighting before flying with BA. I‘ve no issue with quarantining in a hotel room at Gatwick for the afternoon/overnight and assume that any through passengers can‘t be forced to stay in the country for 14 days. I‘m also assuming that BA don‘t go pop between now and then!
We‘ve also rebooked St. Lucia from last April to June this year. Our difficulty here is going to be flying into London from Switzerland and overnighting before flying with BA. I‘ve no issue with quarantining in a hotel room at Gatwick for the afternoon/overnight and assume that any through passengers can‘t be forced to stay in the country for 14 days. I‘m also assuming that BA don‘t go pop between now and then!
RammyMP said:
troika said:
Pointless booking anything IMHO. I can’t help thinking this won’t be plain sailing.
I hate to say it but I agree.As a couple who have 5 or 6 holidays a year, and generally haveall booked by end of February,
I won't be planning anything this 2021.
It was a nightmare getting money back for our many cancelled 2020 holidays,
out of 6 holidays booked, we actually only made one in September to Marmaris.
Register1 said:
RammyMP said:
troika said:
Pointless booking anything IMHO. I can’t help thinking this won’t be plain sailing.
I hate to say it but I agree.As a couple who have 5 or 6 holidays a year, and generally haveall booked by end of February,
I won't be planning anything this 2021.
It was a nightmare getting money back for our many cancelled 2020 holidays,
out of 6 holidays booked, we actually only made one in September to Marmaris.
The only holidays i have booked this year which are re-booked holidays from last year are:-
Centreparcs end of March (hopeful they will open, they are closed until the 15th Feb at the minute)
Lanzarote all inclusive with TUI middle of June, once again hopeful as summer holidays went ahead last year
Centreparcs end of March (hopeful they will open, they are closed until the 15th Feb at the minute)
Lanzarote all inclusive with TUI middle of June, once again hopeful as summer holidays went ahead last year
fridaypassion said:
A mate of mine just had his cancelled for.....June!
I think the situation and mindsets will very rapidly change in spring. Better weather, natural receding of virus, vaccine effects kicking in.
We have it all to look forward to this year guys!
The vaccine just means you won't get really sick and take up a hospital bed. It doesn't stop covid. Case counts are dropping now because of lockdown and the effects of christmas/NYE mixing has yet to be seen. I think the situation and mindsets will very rapidly change in spring. Better weather, natural receding of virus, vaccine effects kicking in.
We have it all to look forward to this year guys!
Case count will just start to rise again as soon as restrictions are lifted. However seasonal flu should be well out of the way by the spring so that should make things better.
The more I type, the less confident I am about our summer holiday
but we needed something to look forward to. I have just been looking at holidays for October half term. There are some deals to be had, but it will still be a big risk.
bakerstreet said:
fridaypassion said:
A mate of mine just had his cancelled for.....June!
I think the situation and mindsets will very rapidly change in spring. Better weather, natural receding of virus, vaccine effects kicking in.
We have it all to look forward to this year guys!
The vaccine just means you won't get really sick and take up a hospital bed. It doesn't stop covid. Case counts are dropping now because of lockdown and the effects of christmas/NYE mixing has yet to be seen. I think the situation and mindsets will very rapidly change in spring. Better weather, natural receding of virus, vaccine effects kicking in.
We have it all to look forward to this year guys!
Case count will just start to rise again as soon as restrictions are lifted. However seasonal flu should be well out of the way by the spring so that should make things better.
The more I type, the less confident I am about our summer holiday
but we needed something to look forward to. I have just been looking at holidays for October half term. There are some deals to be had, but it will still be a big risk.
bakerstreet said:
fridaypassion said:
A mate of mine just had his cancelled for.....June!
I think the situation and mindsets will very rapidly change in spring. Better weather, natural receding of virus, vaccine effects kicking in.
We have it all to look forward to this year guys!
The vaccine just means you won't get really sick and take up a hospital bed. It doesn't stop covid. Case counts are dropping now because of lockdown and the effects of christmas/NYE mixing has yet to be seen. I think the situation and mindsets will very rapidly change in spring. Better weather, natural receding of virus, vaccine effects kicking in.
We have it all to look forward to this year guys!
Case count will just start to rise again as soon as restrictions are lifted. However seasonal flu should be well out of the way by the spring so that should make things better.
The more I type, the less confident I am about our summer holiday
but we needed something to look forward to. I have just been looking at holidays for October half term. There are some deals to be had, but it will still be a big risk.
Deep Thought said:
Theres little financial risk right now to booking - deposits are minimal with balances not due until three months before.
We reserved back in November a villa in Ibiza for early June. I use the word reserved rather than booked as one of the conditions was that there was nothing to pay until the end of March. The price was low enough and the lack of commitment were key. As you say, there's little financial risk so far.We've taken the view that if things are still crap at the end of March we'll cancel the reservation and then get somewhere else closer to when we want to go. It would be disappointing, but not the end of the world, if we didn't get the one we have reserved. We are also thinking that maybe other prices could come down if there's less demand, which there seems to be of this thread is anything to go by.
Deep Thought said:
Agreed - however they hopefully will drop going forward primarily because of vaccination but also because of the better whether of Spring / Summer.
How does the case count go down if the vaccine is primarily just stopping over 70s from dropping dead?It will only help when the vaccine gets down to much younger people.
Vasco said:
Deep Thought said:
Agreed - however they hopefully will drop going forward primarily because of vaccination but also because of the better whether of Spring / Summer.
How does the case count go down if the vaccine is primarily just stopping over 70s from dropping dead?It will only help when the vaccine gets down to much younger people.
Thus - assuming most "cases" are in the over 50s then the vaccine should lower the amount of cases - maybe not massively but we should see a drop. Also, Spring weather will have an impact.
Also, realistically, the issue is not cases but hospital admissions, ICU bed usage and deaths.
Hospital admissions are happening primarily with the over 50s leading to ICU bed usage, leading to deaths, so the vaccinations should reduce all of that.
Thats - i believe - the plan anyway. If it doesnt work, then we're all stuffed
All those "should" drop as the vaccine rolls out.
soxboy said:
Deep Thought said:
Theres little financial risk right now to booking - deposits are minimal with balances not due until three months before.
We reserved back in November a villa in Ibiza for early June. I use the word reserved rather than booked as one of the conditions was that there was nothing to pay until the end of March. The price was low enough and the lack of commitment were key. As you say, there's little financial risk so far.We've taken the view that if things are still crap at the end of March we'll cancel the reservation and then get somewhere else closer to when we want to go. It would be disappointing, but not the end of the world, if we didn't get the one we have reserved. We are also thinking that maybe other prices could come down if there's less demand, which there seems to be of this thread is anything to go by.
I take people's point about not wanting to book then be disappointed if you have to cancel. We had three cruises cancelled last year and a trip to the Cologne Christmas markets too. We did managed to get all our money back, though it did take time and a small amount of chasing.
Our view is that we'd rather have that there and something to look forward to rather than not have anything planned. It has given us motivation to start to lose those lockdown lbs gained also.
We take pleasure from the planning of a holiday and what we'll do when we get there, where we'll go etc, so we're fully able to do that.
The worst we see happening is we let the holiday slide until later this year.
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