Rod Stewarts marcos
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Martyn-123 said:
Page 104 of his latest book tells his story of his two Marcos cars
It looks like he got a bit confused about the cars, colour/dates/engine is all mixed up compared to what I know of it. Not a huge surprise given he hasn't seen either car in 30+ years. He also 'forgot' to mention what (allegedly) happened with that first Miura S...
To resurrect this topic...
I have no idea if the first (G plate) Marcos is still around.
The second one (J plate) is in storage.
The details about the cars in the autobiography are wrong. Possibly deliberately.
The Miura that replaced the second Marcos definitely had a very different history to what is described in the book as it was bounced off a couple of walls in a country lane when still new.
Yes there is an 8-track in the glovebox. There's a copy of 'Never a Dull Moment' too.
I have no idea if the first (G plate) Marcos is still around.
The second one (J plate) is in storage.
The details about the cars in the autobiography are wrong. Possibly deliberately.
The Miura that replaced the second Marcos definitely had a very different history to what is described in the book as it was bounced off a couple of walls in a country lane when still new.
Yes there is an 8-track in the glovebox. There's a copy of 'Never a Dull Moment' too.
Not sure where you got that from? Has someone been saying things, if so I'd be interested to see if it's on a forum somewhere?
The first one would be the white G plate one, which means it's the 1600. I think the headlights show it was that generation of car if you look.
The second one is the 3 litre V6, J plate, yellow. It has never been kept in a garden either!
The first one would be the white G plate one, which means it's the 1600. I think the headlights show it was that generation of car if you look.
The second one is the 3 litre V6, J plate, yellow. It has never been kept in a garden either!
Marcos Heritage may be able to correct you on that.
I know they are unaware of the location of the first car (the 1600) but the last one (sold in 1971 to fund the Miura) they do know about and have the factory documentation to back the history.
I'm waiting for a copy of the file at the moment.
I know they are unaware of the location of the first car (the 1600) but the last one (sold in 1971 to fund the Miura) they do know about and have the factory documentation to back the history.
I'm waiting for a copy of the file at the moment.
Marcos Heritage should have the build file on all Marcos's but build files don't usually tell you who owned it.
Does not alter the fact that NFJ 634G shown in the video is a 3LV6 look at the video again and you will see the 3L lump on the bonnet 1600's did not have this.
I guess this could mean he owned 2x 3LV6 cars and not a 1600.
The 1600 i remember from back in the 1970's that was known as used to belong to Rod Stewart went missing but has recently turned up.
Does not alter the fact that NFJ 634G shown in the video is a 3LV6 look at the video again and you will see the 3L lump on the bonnet 1600's did not have this.
I guess this could mean he owned 2x 3LV6 cars and not a 1600.
The 1600 i remember from back in the 1970's that was known as used to belong to Rod Stewart went missing but has recently turned up.
Having looked again you're right about the bonnet on NFJ 634G. Could it just have had a visual upgrade via the later bonnet and been a 1600 underneath?
With regard to the car I know about, the first owner is known by the simple method of having bought it from them in 1971 and keeping it ever since.
I haven't seen the file yet so don't know exactly what is in there that mentions the first owners name - it was brought up by Marcos Heritage without any prompting - but I guess it will either be on the dealer order form or the warranty registration.
I know there are a few pictures of the cars in different settings that might give more info but it is a little difficult to track them down. I saw a couple on a documentary a few years back and I think there is another on a record sleeve too.
With regard to the car I know about, the first owner is known by the simple method of having bought it from them in 1971 and keeping it ever since.
I haven't seen the file yet so don't know exactly what is in there that mentions the first owners name - it was brought up by Marcos Heritage without any prompting - but I guess it will either be on the dealer order form or the warranty registration.
I know there are a few pictures of the cars in different settings that might give more info but it is a little difficult to track them down. I saw a couple on a documentary a few years back and I think there is another on a record sleeve too.
Not a problem - I don't think they would.
In this case I own the car I have the file on - I gave them the registration number, engine and chassis numbers and colour when I asked for the build info. I'm not likely to tell anyone other than them where the car is and the original owners details are from late 1970. And anything since 1971 would be info that only tracks to me.
I don't think they would hold anything up to date, rather we are always talking about info from 40+ years ago and not freely handed out. And it doesn't contain any of the secondary paperwork, just the build/order stuff. There would probably have been more as I have originals of things that weren't included.
As it is it's interesting to know who first ordered a car but not actually much use for anything except as part of the history.
EDIT:
Actually it's interesting to have the *factory info* on the original owner. Though it was also part of the vehicle registration history too. And in this case known on a direct personal basis anyway. It's only cars that have changed hands multiple times that are difficult to track back. And much more difficult without the chassis info which a non-owner wouldn't have.
EDIT 2:
You can't get the file without the chassis and engine number, as that's how they are organised. So I doubt you could get the file for a car without owning it to get at the numbers.
In this case I own the car I have the file on - I gave them the registration number, engine and chassis numbers and colour when I asked for the build info. I'm not likely to tell anyone other than them where the car is and the original owners details are from late 1970. And anything since 1971 would be info that only tracks to me.
I don't think they would hold anything up to date, rather we are always talking about info from 40+ years ago and not freely handed out. And it doesn't contain any of the secondary paperwork, just the build/order stuff. There would probably have been more as I have originals of things that weren't included.
As it is it's interesting to know who first ordered a car but not actually much use for anything except as part of the history.
EDIT:
Actually it's interesting to have the *factory info* on the original owner. Though it was also part of the vehicle registration history too. And in this case known on a direct personal basis anyway. It's only cars that have changed hands multiple times that are difficult to track back. And much more difficult without the chassis info which a non-owner wouldn't have.
EDIT 2:
You can't get the file without the chassis and engine number, as that's how they are organised. So I doubt you could get the file for a car without owning it to get at the numbers.
Edited by Jonesy23 on Tuesday 23 July 15:37
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