RE: Marcos TSO
Discussion
yellabelly,
Sorry if my post caused you offense. I did inject humor I thought, particularly with the "Yours intrigued" at the end.
In general I don't tend to rely on the odd
or 
if I think that the tone of the English used is sufficient.
I appreciated your comments were somewhat tongue in cheek, and was responding in a similar style. If you didn't get that (although it seems some people did, particularly my little "dig" at your Rover) then I unreservedly apologies.
Whilst I do take indignation some what at people slagging off cars that they have no intention of purchasing, due to the inherent, somewhat genetic, emotions tied up behind that, I think people that either would, or would like to, buy a car that has certain characteristics, but do not like the others, are perfectly entitled to express those opinions.
However, I would say in my defense of my reply to you, that you did, smilie or not, make comments that seemed clearly, to me, based on a somewhat propositioned irrational statement that you then tried to continue to justify.
Stating an opinion, writing words such as "IT SUCKS" (particularly in capitals, indicating a "SHOUT") and then throwing a series of smilies with a "but hey" will leave you open to people taking you to task over it. This is merely what I did, and, in my opinion, using much lesser language and emphasis than you did.
As for your personal circumstances, see above. People that have a passion for a certain type of car, regardless if that is able to be realised or not, commenting is, as I said above, perfectly fine, but when people descend into "slinging mud and insults around", particularly if that is by implication aimed at myself who is a strong supporter of the marque, both vocally and with my financial resources, then they will get a suitable, in my eyes, retort back. That is as relevant to someone with £1m to spend (if actually somewhat more) than someone with £10k to spend.
Imagine what you would repond with if I wrote "TVR S - IT'S UGLY AND SUCKS" in reply to one of your posts?
Again, I am sorry that you didn't see the inherent sarcasm within my language, but in the main, if at all possible, I try to let the words express the emotion. Perhaps that's why "Pub banter" works so much better than typing on the Internet.
J
Sorry if my post caused you offense. I did inject humor I thought, particularly with the "Yours intrigued" at the end.
In general I don't tend to rely on the odd
or if I think that the tone of the English used is sufficient. I appreciated your comments were somewhat tongue in cheek, and was responding in a similar style. If you didn't get that (although it seems some people did, particularly my little "dig" at your Rover) then I unreservedly apologies.
Whilst I do take indignation some what at people slagging off cars that they have no intention of purchasing, due to the inherent, somewhat genetic, emotions tied up behind that, I think people that either would, or would like to, buy a car that has certain characteristics, but do not like the others, are perfectly entitled to express those opinions.
However, I would say in my defense of my reply to you, that you did, smilie or not, make comments that seemed clearly, to me, based on a somewhat propositioned irrational statement that you then tried to continue to justify.
Stating an opinion, writing words such as "IT SUCKS" (particularly in capitals, indicating a "SHOUT") and then throwing a series of smilies with a "but hey" will leave you open to people taking you to task over it. This is merely what I did, and, in my opinion, using much lesser language and emphasis than you did.
As for your personal circumstances, see above. People that have a passion for a certain type of car, regardless if that is able to be realised or not, commenting is, as I said above, perfectly fine, but when people descend into "slinging mud and insults around", particularly if that is by implication aimed at myself who is a strong supporter of the marque, both vocally and with my financial resources, then they will get a suitable, in my eyes, retort back. That is as relevant to someone with £1m to spend (if actually somewhat more) than someone with £10k to spend.
Imagine what you would repond with if I wrote "TVR S - IT'S UGLY AND SUCKS" in reply to one of your posts?
Again, I am sorry that you didn't see the inherent sarcasm within my language, but in the main, if at all possible, I try to let the words express the emotion. Perhaps that's why "Pub banter" works so much better than typing on the Internet.
J
GregE240 said:Precicely my point! If a car appeals to a certain set of individuals (25 for the M14 at the last count, representing £1.9m of orders, that's nearly 10% of TVR's last year's turnover!) who are prepared to part with their cash before even driving the thing, then something must be good about the car!
Facinates me how people make purchase decisions of bespoke cars on the "prototype" model.
But then, of course, the people on here that don't like it won't buy it, so they will never ever know what it's like to have a car built to you.
J
Ummm, Joust old love, didn't you just put a deposit down on an Noble M14? Thats a proto, isn't it?
For people therefore to go "it's c**p, and therefore I'm never going to look at it ever, so there" on a prototype seems a very strange situation even when there are people purchasing the car without even waiting for the final version.
[One final thing I suppose is that the M14 is a finished car, after the show it's off to SA to have the moulds made so it's not really a prototype in the way that the TSO is]
J
pies said:I said TVRs (in general), not a car.
Tuscan mainstream
Must admit im struggling with that concept Joust
It's fair to say there are a heck of a lot of TVRs on the road compared to Marcos' - that exclusivness is part of the appeal of having a TS500 it has to be said (you are unlikely to spot another one in normal driving!)
J
joust said:
yellabelly,
Again, I am sorry that you didn't see the inherent sarcasm within my language, but in the main, if at all possible, I try to let the words express the emotion. Perhaps that's why "Pub banter" works so much better than typing on the Internet.
J
Joust, no problem, I obviously missed the humour, thanks for taking the time to explain.
The pub is a good idea, one for the future.
grahambell said:
the build of the car is so unrefined its untrue.
the doors creaked like old rusty iron gates
I saw the car today and it's beautifully made, the shut lines are good and the doors don't creak so I reckon you either went to the wrong show or saw the wrong car
The doors didn't creak on press day either. Maybe it was actually Mr a-team's joints. Now what was that about old gits and zimmers?
The only comment I will pass is that you obviously didnt try the passenger door on press day, as it did indeed creak quite loudly, one point that I would be forced to agree with Mr A Team on.
This is also copied on the other TSO thread but I thought I'd add it to here to as it's probably more on topic - just my thoughts for what they're worth... have to say, I didn't try the passenger door though.
burriana500 said:
As a Griff 500 driver, I went to the show to see only two cars in particular - the convertible Tuscan, which I think although stunning, looks possibly a bit too lovely and sleek for a badass muscle car...
and the TSO.
This may look, slightly, TVR esque with the cowled in headlights, but nowhere else really (IMHO) - I love the gaping air intake, and the rear has a definite air of Aston Martin about it.
The inside is totally opposite to the Tuscan, more in the spirit of a Griff, and I like the retro feel of it. Simple and classic.
And then the engine... it has three very obvious plus points as far as I'm concerned - it'll go like stink - sound awsome - and be virtually bomb proof.
I am looking very closely at changing the Griff next spring, and it will either be a 2 year old Tuscan S or one of these.
TO THE NICE LADY THAT TRIED TO GET ME TO SIGN UP FOR ONE LAST SUNDAY! Please get in touch as yes, on reflection I will be prepared to travel a reasonable distance to test drive one.
Now - is anyone any good with Photoshop? Can you please do me a version in pale metallic blue with cream side panel. This colour scheme looked great on the big Healey's and I hereby claim the copyright to it on a TSO
thanks
al
Lee J said:
Boosted LS1 said:
the a-team said:
the build of the car is so unrefined its untrue.
the doors creaked like old rusty iron gates
I saw the car today and it's beautifully made, the shut lines are good and the doors don't creak so I reckon you either went to the wrong show or saw the wrong car
The doors didn't creak on press day either. Maybe it was actually Mr a-team's joints. Now what was that about old gits and zimmers?
The only comment I will pass is that you obviously didnt try the passenger door on press day, as it did indeed creak quite loudly, one point that I would be forced to agree with Mr A Team on.
The drivers door was infact perfect.
I can admit to not trying the passenger door but did you try the boot?
If you had you would have found out it had no boot latch. The reason for this being that it is a show car and not a finished article.
This isnt a fecking Ford you know. Its small volume and thats the way things go.
I think its bloody great.
Mr A-team. You seem rather supportive of TVR but yet slag off the other brit cars. Did you try the doors to any of their cars?
I could name a fault an every car I looked closely at but I wont because I understand the effort these smaller manufacturers have to make to get to the show on time.
to the Brit sports car manufacturers for turning up at the show. Did anyone find the BMW stand....
the a-team said:
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT.
that car is a joke the build quality of the show car was crap, it is only going to atrtractive to the old git and his zimmer!!! TVR have nothing to worry about whats so ever.
A-Team, would you please try to ensure that your comments are not mistakenly taken as representative of the majority of us TVR drivers.
I personally find your comments tactless and unnecessarily antagonistic in tone. As a new poster you may be surprised to find that most of us appreciate other members' cars for what they are, someone's pride and joy, yes yes, even BMWs!
Whereas postive critism is always accepted if not agreed with - out and out slagging off is generally put down to trolling.
On another topic
UNREPENTANT! Leave that Healey colour scheme alone. It's mine! >> Edited by burriana500 on Thursday 3rd June 15:34
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Better....
>> Edited by cazzer on Thursday 3rd June 16:31
Better....
>> Edited by cazzer on Thursday 3rd June 16:31
burriana500 said:Agreed, but come on... "even BMW's" that's pushing it a bit!
WHAT A LOAD OF SHIT.
etc...
I personally find your comments tactless and unnecessarily antagonistic in tone. As a new poster you may be surprised to find that most of us appreciate other members' cars for what they are, someone's pride and joy, yes yes, even BMWs!
Rich...cazzer said:
[pic]http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00439800f00000001.jpg [/pic]
Better....
Hmm a bit mauvish, but top effort.
Thanks Cazzer.
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