Why Shouldnt Prostitution Be State Sanctioned?

Why Shouldnt Prostitution Be State Sanctioned?

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st_files

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5,427 posts

182 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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IE men and women can pay for sex without fear of being arrested and two or more men/women can work in a property together without fear of arrest....

I'd be interested if there is anyone who can argue it shouldnt be without having to resort to ridiculously anachronistic arguments involving supposed "morals" and religion.

Surely we live in a society where we can respect a womans or mans decision to have sex for money if they so wish? Think of the extra tax revenues it would generate too as well as making the lives of sex workers far safer.

Edited by st_files on Friday 23 October 11:20

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

199 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Because it would offend the imaginary friend club. And old people. And people who live near said brother because "they don't want THAT sort around here".

Tom_C76

1,923 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Firstly what is anachronistic about morals? Otherwise why shouldn't people be free to sell their organs for transplant rather than donating them? Even sell a kidney before death maybe, you have a spare after all. Or sell unwanted children to the highest bidder? Possession is a moral thing too. Society is based on morals, whether or not they are the ones you choose to live by.

Secondly, how do you ensure that all of the sex workers are genuinely consenting? As soon as there is someone else in charge of the brothel there is the risk of coercion. Or people forces into it to meet debts, drug dealers threats etc.

Cara van man

29,977 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Would loyalty cards be on offer?

Airmiles availible to cash in?

How about truncheon vouchers?

lawrence567

7,507 posts

191 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Works in Amsterdam alright..

st_files

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

182 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Tom_C76 said:
Firstly what is anachronistic about morals? Otherwise why shouldn't people be free to sell their organs for transplant rather than donating them? Even sell a kidney before death maybe, you have a spare after all. Or sell unwanted children to the highest bidder? Possession is a moral thing too. Society is based on morals, whether or not they are the ones you choose to live by.

Secondly, how do you ensure that all of the sex workers are genuinely consenting? As soon as there is someone else in charge of the brothel there is the risk of coercion. Or people forces into it to meet debts, drug dealers threats etc.
I think its anachronistic to have a moral problem with prostitution but I absolutely see thats a personal point of view.

With state sanctioning and regulation coercion of sex workers should be much easier to Police. And if you believe the research the Guardian has done, forced sex slaves in this country isnt the huge epidemic the Daily Mail would have us believe.

Edited by st_files on Friday 23 October 11:24

DownUnder.

828 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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In a perfect/save world perhaps. Think about this though,

If it were to be state sanctioned, rules and regulations would be put into place by Mr Brown the lovely fellow.

Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....

See what i'm getting at?

st_files

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

182 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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DownUnder. said:
In a perfect/save world perhaps. Think about this though,

If it were to be state sanctioned, rules and regulations would be put into place by Mr Brown the lovely fellow.

Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....

See what i'm getting at?
STI's? Is that some sort of Vauxhall Nova? Harsh.....

gamefreaks

1,975 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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...because if the state had anything to do with it, ugly, poor dolites would get 'we Tax Credits' and the rest of us would have to pay for them!

Can you imagine the next budget: Fuel Duty up 2p, Tobacco tax up 5p, we duty up 7p per minute...

Edited by gamefreaks on Friday 23 October 11:32

IainT

10,040 posts

239 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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DownUnder. said:
In a perfect/save world perhaps. Think about this though,

If it were to be state sanctioned, rules and regulations would be put into place by Mr Brown the lovely fellow.

Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....

See what i'm getting at?
What, the people that 'choose' to be on the game are barred from doing so?

WorAl

10,877 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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lawrence567 said:
Works in Amsterdam alright..
Exactly...its the fking stupid PC Brigade in this country....works in some states of the good old US of A too.

DownUnder.

828 posts

178 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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No the majority of the people that are forced to pursue these lifestyles through drugs/being forced to work to feed families would be forced out.

Meaning that by legalising and regulating it, nothing would change for this group. They would simply carry on working in the background.

WorAl

10,877 posts

189 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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DownUnder. said:
Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....
Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?

Defcon5

6,193 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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WorAl said:
DownUnder. said:
Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....
Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?
But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems

st_files

Original Poster:

5,427 posts

182 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Defcon5 said:
WorAl said:
DownUnder. said:
Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....
Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?
But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems
Really? I'd love to see the research you base that statement on....absolute bks.

Neil_H

15,323 posts

252 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Unfortunately we have too many feminist idiots like Harriet Harman in this country for a sensible law like that to be introduced. I'm sure if she had her own way, she'd make any kind of sexual activity into some kind of rape crime.

BoRED S2upid

19,751 posts

241 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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st_files said:
Defcon5 said:
WorAl said:
DownUnder. said:
Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....
Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?
But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems
Really? I'd love to see the research you base that statement on....absolute bks.
You have a lot of experience of prostitutes do you?

I would say the majority of hookers are on crack or stronger drugs.

Technonotice

4,250 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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I know someone who used to run a brothel, the tax man does visit from time to time and sooner or later they do make you pay tax on the earnings of the 'massage parlour'

The girls don't like paying tax so the madam has to cough up.

HTH

Road Pest

3,123 posts

199 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
st_files said:
Defcon5 said:
WorAl said:
DownUnder. said:
Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....
Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?
But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems
Really? I'd love to see the research you base that statement on....absolute bks.
You have a lot of experience of prostitutes do you?

I would say the majority of hookers are on crack or stronger drugs.
There are stronger drugs than Crack?

G_T

16,160 posts

191 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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st_files said:
IE men and women can pay for sex without fear of being arrested and two or more men/women can work in a property together without fear of arrest....
You can.

Escorts, massage palours, saunas and the back room of many a dodgey strip club cater for this sort of business. To the best of my knowledge it's also taxable as "you're paying for the time only".

I would hazard a guess that the only reason prostitution itself is not legal (but is regulated in some areas). Is because of the increased levels of risks for both girl and punter when compared to organised businesses.

So why bother "sanctioning it"? If you're into that sort of thing you have numerous legal options available to you. If you're still not happy with that you can even visit "regulated" areas where prostitutes operate and the police turn a blind eye.

If you keep things the way they are then the majority of the public won't even know that such seedy areas exist and the religious types can keep their heads down.