Legendary guns
Discussion
gareth.e said:
In the hope someone else on these forums knows clive...
Anyway, my vote goes to AK47. Utterly brilliant, nice powerful calibre, simple, and even a child can use it (ok maybe thats not a good thing in some countries ). Makes a great distinct noise too, looks pretty cool too.
r1ch said:
gareth.e said:
In the hope someone else on these forums knows clive...
Anyway, my vote goes to AK47. Utterly brilliant, nice powerful calibre, simple, and even a child can use it (ok maybe thats not a good thing in some countries ). Makes a great distinct noise too, looks pretty cool too.
Snake the Sniper said:
The a2 is a pretty good rifle. Agreed that the original version was pretty shocking but over a decade later and however many millions of pounds upgrading them all they've finally turned into a decent bit of kit. Edited by difontaine42 on Thursday 30th April 18:16
Ayahuasca said:
Some I was once given to carry, clean, polish, oil, take to bits, put together again, run with, sleep with, fire:
The mighty Jimpy:
Brilliant. Loved letting rip with those on the range.The mighty Jimpy:
Ayahuasca said:
Bloody heavy thing to carry around all day (or night) especially in conjunction with 4 x 20 round mags in your webbing. Hilariously over-powered for the job we were doing, but still got a soft spot for them.Ayahuasca said:
So rubbish, they only gave them to the dog-handlers.Ayahuasca said:
I was told it would probably be more effective to just throw the pistol at the enemy.Edited by Los Palmas 7 on Thursday 30th April 18:18
Damned good gun. I say it won us the war
Facts:
1935
Manufacturer Royal Small Arms Factory, Enfield,
John Inglis and Company, Long Branch Factory, Ishapore and Lithgow Small Arms Factory.
Produced 1935-1971
Variants Mk I, II, III, IV, L4
Specifications
Weight 22.83 lb (10.35 kg)
Length 42.9 in (1,156 mm), Mk IV
Barrel length 25 in (635 mm)
Crew 2, firer and magazine/barrel changer
Cartridge .303 British
7.92x57mm Mauser (for Republic of China in World War II)
7.62x51mm NATO
Action Gas-operated, tilting bolt
Rate of fire 500–520 rounds/min
Muzzle velocity 2440 ft/s (743.7 m/s)
Effective range 600 yd (550 m)
Maximum range 1850 yd
Feed system 30-round detachable box magazine, 100-round detachable pan magazine
Sorry 'bout the copying of Wikipedia
difontaine42 said:
Snake the Sniper said:
The a2 is a pretty good rifle. Agreed that the original version was pretty shocking but over a decade later and however many millions of pounds upgrading them all they've finally turned into a decent bit of kit. Edited by difontaine42 on Thursday 30th April 18:16
rhinochopig said:
Saddle bum said:
The one on the left is the original "wogstopper" - 577/450 as used in the Martini-Henry. The one next to it is the normal 303.
That would make a rather large hole - both sides. Are such non-FMJ rounds illegal these days - would it be classed as a squash head or "Dum Dum" round?Lead is still used in cap and ball pistols. Also lead bullets are used in normal rifles on short or restricted ranges. They are called "squib-loads", (or tarts' loads).
The AR-15 Armalite
One of the only guns to have a song written about it:
And it's down along the Falls Road that's where I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left aye another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
I was stopped by a soldier he said "you are a swine"
He hit me with his rifle and he kicked me in the groin
I begged and I pleaded oh my manners were polite
but all the time I'm thinking of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's down in the Bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well this brave RUC man came marching up our street
600 British soldiers he had lined up at his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
he cried I'm only joking, when he heard the Armalite!
Chorus:
And its down in Bellaghy that's where i long to be
lying in the dark with the provo company
a comrade on me left and another one on me right
and a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well the army came to visit me 'twas in the early hours
With saracens and saladins and ferret armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armourpiercing bullets of me little Armalite
One of the only guns to have a song written about it:
And it's down along the Falls Road that's where I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left aye another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
I was stopped by a soldier he said "you are a swine"
He hit me with his rifle and he kicked me in the groin
I begged and I pleaded oh my manners were polite
but all the time I'm thinking of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's down in the Bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well this brave RUC man came marching up our street
600 British soldiers he had lined up at his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
he cried I'm only joking, when he heard the Armalite!
Chorus:
And its down in Bellaghy that's where i long to be
lying in the dark with the provo company
a comrade on me left and another one on me right
and a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well the army came to visit me 'twas in the early hours
With saracens and saladins and ferret armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armourpiercing bullets of me little Armalite
Ayahuasca said:
The AR-15 Armalite
One of the only guns to have a song written about it:
And it's down along the Falls Road that's where I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left aye another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
I was stopped by a soldier he said "you are a swine"
He hit me with his rifle and he kicked me in the groin
I begged and I pleaded oh my manners were polite
but all the time I'm thinking of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's down in the Bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well this brave RUC man came marching up our street
600 British soldiers he had lined up at his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
he cried I'm only joking, when he heard the Armalite!
Chorus:
And its down in Bellaghy that's where i long to be
lying in the dark with the provo company
a comrade on me left and another one on me right
and a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well the army came to visit me 'twas in the early hours
With saracens and saladins and ferret armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armourpiercing bullets of me little Armalite
Was that not the AR18 rather than the AR15/M16 that the boyo's sung for?One of the only guns to have a song written about it:
And it's down along the Falls Road that's where I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left aye another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
I was stopped by a soldier he said "you are a swine"
He hit me with his rifle and he kicked me in the groin
I begged and I pleaded oh my manners were polite
but all the time I'm thinking of me little Armalite!
Chorus:
And it's down in the Bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with the Provo company
A comrade on me left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well this brave RUC man came marching up our street
600 British soldiers he had lined up at his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
he cried I'm only joking, when he heard the Armalite!
Chorus:
And its down in Bellaghy that's where i long to be
lying in the dark with the provo company
a comrade on me left and another one on me right
and a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite!
Well the army came to visit me 'twas in the early hours
With saracens and saladins and ferret armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armourpiercing bullets of me little Armalite
Oh, and not forgetting "Finland Red, Egypt White" by the Sisterhood in 1986 about the AK
'Overall length: 870mm
Length of barrel: 415mm
Length of sighting line: 378mm
Weight of magazine empty: .42kg
Weight of magazine loaded: .92kg
Overall weight with loaded magazine: 4.8kg
Chamber pressure: 4550psi
The 7.62mm kalashnikov rifle fire a 7.2662mm round and one ...
Muzzel velocity: 710m/s, 2380ft/s
Specified rate of fire: 600 rounds per minute
600 rounds per minute, 600 rounds per minute
Service ammunition is divided into full cartridge and special purpose cartridge
Full ammunition is used to destroy personal
Special ammunition depending upton its construction is designed for target
identification and correction of fire, ignition of fuel and hightly flammable objects and for
destroying lightly armoured targets.
Tracer cartridges are used for target indication, fire adjustment, signal purposes
and destroying personel. And destroying personel.
Tracer bullets can ignite, can ignite
The path of the bullet is indicated by a red flame.
AP incendary cartridges are used for destroying fuel, gasoline and for
destroying targets protected by thin armour
The standard cartridge for the AK-47 is the M43
Bullet weight: 122 grains
Powder weight: 25 grains
Standard markings: full ... and ... No colour
Tracer model: 3453?
API model BZ: black and red tip
Special cartridges: Plastic blank with metal case
Finland: Red, Germany: Black, Egypt: White.
Shortrange cartridges: full, round nosed, laquered steel case, white tip.
Tracer: round nosed, laquered steel case, white about green tip.
There are three basic models of the AK;
AK47: Machine receiver, no bayonet lug, polished bolt and bolt carrier, side ...
AKM: Stamped receiver, bayonet lug, ... bolt, ... tail full grip, side a...
RPK: Squad MMG, larger barrel, equiped with 70 round drum loading, 40
round box magazine or may even a 74 round magazine. Despite those specifications, its ....
Extensive experiance ... approx 800 rounds per minute.
Destroy personel
Destroy personel
Destroy personel '
Edited by Skywalker on Thursday 30th April 21:51
Snake the Sniper said:
difontaine42 said:
Snake the Sniper said:
The a2 is a pretty good rifle. Agreed that the original version was pretty shocking but over a decade later and however many millions of pounds upgrading them all they've finally turned into a decent bit of kit. Edited by difontaine42 on Thursday 30th April 18:16
Yes. It was st.
james_tigerwoods said:
Snake the Sniper said:
difontaine42 said:
Snake the Sniper said:
The a2 is a pretty good rifle. Agreed that the original version was pretty shocking but over a decade later and however many millions of pounds upgrading them all they've finally turned into a decent bit of kit. Edited by difontaine42 on Thursday 30th April 18:16
Yes. It was st.
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