Haunted by a child? Thoughts?

Haunted by a child? Thoughts?

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Front bottom

5,648 posts

191 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Rawwr said:
liner33 said:
So its a case of this ?



What do you hope to achieve ? Do you think that by posting a few links we will say , "Ah ok I'm obviously mental ?"
Just admitting there's a strong possibility you're mental would be a keen start.
It's much easier to deny than to try to understand, and acknowledge that we know very little in the grand scheme of things.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Front bottom said:
It's much easier to deny than to try to understand
We're in 100% agreement smile

Caddyshack

10,996 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Have a read of the book called "paranormality", I may have posted this before but I read too many forums. It is not a ghost.

HustleRussell

24,772 posts

161 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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liner33 said:

One of the lads got dragged out of his bed by his foot - moved out the following week
I had a series of crazy sleep related episodes spanning a year or two a few years ago including one similar to your colleague, on a number of occasions waking up and being physically restrained and unable to move or vocalise in combination with either dark figures in the room, or swathes of inexplicable dark ‘clouds’ moving around the room. I was experiencing ‘Sleep paralysis’ a.k.a. ‘night hag’ or ‘old hag’.

Sleep paralysis is a glitch in the brain which occurs in an estimated one in three people at some time or another. It is when you wake up and the brain has failed to suspend it’s ‘dreaming’ state or reinstate your motor skills, so basically you awake to find yourself simultaneously experiencing total body paralysis and vivid hallucinations. It’s very interesting and, I can assure you, absolutely terrifying- especially the first few times.

So I was never physically dragged out of bed by my ankle. I did ‘experience’ it though. I had a sleep paralysis episode, the strange apparitions, the total inability to move, and when my brain switched on my motor skills again I must’ve flung myself energetically out of bed. My brain hallucinated the ‘dragged out of bed’ part, but until some months later when I diagnosed and understood my sleep paralysis I would not have been able to explain these episodes.

liner33

10,704 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I had a series of crazy sleep related episodes spanning a year or two a few years ago including one similar to your colleague, on a number of occasions waking up and being physically restrained and unable to move or vocalise in combination with either dark figures in the room, or swathes of inexplicable dark ‘clouds’ moving around the room. I was experiencing ‘Sleep paralysis’ a.k.a. ‘night hag’ or ‘old hag’.

Sleep paralysis is a glitch in the brain which occurs in an estimated one in three people at some time or another. It is when you wake up and the brain has failed to suspend it’s ‘dreaming’ state or reinstate your motor skills, so basically you awake to find yourself simultaneously experiencing total body paralysis and vivid hallucinations. It’s very interesting and, I can assure you, absolutely terrifying- especially the first few times.

So I was never physically dragged out of bed by my ankle. I did ‘experience’ it though. I had a sleep paralysis episode, the strange apparitions, the total inability to move, and when my brain switched on my motor skills again I must’ve flung myself energetically out of bed. My brain hallucinated the ‘dragged out of bed’ part, but until some months later when I diagnosed and understood my sleep paralysis I would not have been able to explain these episodes.
Yes I've had that myself once or twice, its pretty frightening. I also hear bangs and voices myself when waking up but they are the same kind of thing.

The guy in question didn't really believe, he knew the history of the house but thought that the rest of us were making it up or winding him up, he spent little time there as his girlfriend lived nearby so only really slept there when he was working nights and had no real spooky experiences before that night.

It genuinely terrified him and he moved out as I said , its entirely possible it was a figment of his half asleep brain, but it didnt happen to me

Richie C

637 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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What happened to the OP? Were there not some videos promised?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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He’s probably busy looking through 520 email alerts that there’s been a reply to his post

carrottop

7,251 posts

234 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
carrottop said:
Again I repeat, explain the colour blue to me
What more do you want to know, apart from what is in that long wiki?

My experience of blue? Doesn't matter. If my experience of blue is different to what we know about blue, then that's my mistake. Maybe I'm colour-blind.
Then as you are offering; explain to me your experience of blue

Edited by carrottop on Wednesday 1st November 19:09

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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V6Pushfit said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
You just don't want those explanations to be true, because you want to think something special happened to you, not something humdrum.
You’re the special one.

You do critical thinking

No one else does, they can’t. Thats why you know you’re right. You did critical thinking and told yourself so.
Touché



Richie C

637 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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HustleRussell said:
I had a series of crazy sleep related episodes spanning a year or two a few years ago including one similar to your colleague, on a number of occasions waking up and being physically restrained and unable to move or vocalise in combination with either dark figures in the room, or swathes of inexplicable dark ‘clouds’ moving around the room. I was experiencing ‘Sleep paralysis’ a.k.a. ‘night hag’ or ‘old hag’.

Sleep paralysis is a glitch in the brain which occurs in an estimated one in three people at some time or another. It is when you wake up and the brain has failed to suspend it’s ‘dreaming’ state or reinstate your motor skills, so basically you awake to find yourself simultaneously experiencing total body paralysis and vivid hallucinations. It’s very interesting and, I can assure you, absolutely terrifying- especially the first few times.

So I was never physically dragged out of bed by my ankle. I did ‘experience’ it though. I had a sleep paralysis episode, the strange apparitions, the total inability to move, and when my brain switched on my motor skills again I must’ve flung myself energetically out of bed. My brain hallucinated the ‘dragged out of bed’ part, but until some months later when I diagnosed and understood my sleep paralysis I would not have been able to explain these episodes.
Sounds like you'd better get your local Benedictine monk round pronto.

carrottop

7,251 posts

234 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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carrottop said:
SpeckledJim said:
carrottop said:
Again I repeat, explain the colour blue to me
What more do you want to know, apart from what is in that long wiki?

My experience of blue? Doesn't matter. If my experience of blue is different to what we know about blue, then that's my mistake. Maybe I'm colour-blind.
Then as you are offering; explain to me your experience of blue

Edited by carrottop on Wednesday 1st November 19:09
No? Thought not. Next judge

Bill

52,980 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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carrottop said:
Then as you are offering; explain to me your experience of blue
I met* a hooloovoo once.



*Not really...

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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carrottop said:
Then as you are offering; explain to me your experience of blue


?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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carrottop said:
Then as you are offering; explain to me your experience of blue
Derek Jarman's last film, not entirely uninteresting from an audio point of "view" but somewhat lacking on the visual side I thought.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,599 posts

151 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Einion Yrth said:
carrottop said:
Then as you are offering; explain to me your experience of blue
Derek Jarman's last film, not entirely uninteresting from an audio point of "view" but somewhat lacking on the visual side I thought.
Count yourself lucky, I watched it on a black and white telly.

Efbe

9,251 posts

167 months

Wednesday 1st November 2017
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Rawwr said:
liner33 said:
So its a case of this ?



What do you hope to achieve ? Do you think that by posting a few links we will say , "Ah ok I'm obviously mental ?"
Just admitting there's a strong possibility you're mental would be a keen start.
but as I already showed, there is no possible way anyone on here could satisfy you in believing there is anything paranormal.

Stories won't work, pictures won't work, videos wont work.

So what is the point of challenging people on this thread, what would work for you for evidence?

You guys are being the opposite of scientific, starting off by trying to disprove everything you can is retard-science. trying to work out what could be proven and how is where you need to start.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Efbe said:
but as I already showed, there is no possible way anyone on here could satisfy you in believing there is anything paranormal.

Stories won't work, pictures won't work, videos wont work.

So what is the point of challenging people on this thread, what would work for you for evidence?

You guys are being the opposite of scientific, starting off by trying to disprove everything you can is retard-science. trying to work out what could be proven and how is where you need to start.
Someone's already said that and it's a nonsense. Post some genuine photos and videos and we'll see. It would be genuinely amazing to see. If people keep on posting clips from TV shows and movies, it's like shooting fish in a barrel... with a cannon.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Efbe said:
but as I already showed, there is no possible way anyone on here could satisfy you in believing there is anything paranormal.

Stories won't work, pictures won't work, videos wont work.

So what is the point of challenging people on this thread, what would work for you for evidence?

You guys are being the opposite of scientific, starting off by trying to disprove everything you can is retard-science. trying to work out what could be proven and how is where you need to start.
Stories won’t work unless backed up, it is why we have legal eagles in trials, people memories and all that. They might be right or wrong and they might be telling some great big fat fibs.

Pictures are interesting, as are videos. But they are part of a process of capturing light that is pretty well understood. Whilst someone might say ghost, another might pick on the combination of lenses used in a camera, quite a few in some, various coatings and have another explanation that can be proven.

Coupled with some rather realistic physical requirements that is the universe all around us, there are some rather fundamental issues that need to be invented for the ghost to exist.

carrottop

7,251 posts

234 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Rawwr said:
Efbe said:
but as I already showed, there is no possible way anyone on here could satisfy you in believing there is anything paranormal.

Stories won't work, pictures won't work, videos wont work.

So what is the point of challenging people on this thread, what would work for you for evidence?

You guys are being the opposite of scientific, starting off by trying to disprove everything you can is retard-science. trying to work out what could be proven and how is where you need to start.
Someone's already said that and it's a nonsense. Post some genuine photos and videos and we'll see. It would be genuinely amazing to see. If people keep on posting clips from TV shows and movies, it's like shooting fish in a barrel... with a cannon.
But there again, there's none so blind as those that refuse to see

Bill

52,980 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Above all, the first question of science is is it plausible, and what might the mechanism be.

Human experience is subjective and error prone, Vs something that goes against every known law.

It makes sense to assume the former rather than try to create a hitherto unknown and untestable branch of science.