Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
We've had this discussion before so to keep it simple, plenty of completely not real people own shotguns and rifles and use them for sporting purposes.
As someone who has spent their life shooting most disciplines, surrounded by firearms what can be seen is that the people who are attracted to owning military style weaponry are weirdos with considerable social issues. And when pistols were permitted in the UK the pistol clubs were full of oddballs who liked to discuss the damage loads would do to people, in stark contrast to the sane subjects that rifle club members discussed. Pistol shooting tended to be very much low brow punters who got a boner from thinking they were Charles Bronson. As for the fully auto, military style weapon fanatics, just something wrong with them.
Gun weirdos always go for the military style kit. Funny that.
My dad, uncles, grandparents all used to own guns, purely (a) because they were farmers and (b) it was just normal to have guns. People would think it odd if you didn't have a gun. However there wasn't any (not sure what the right words are here) boasting/bragging/showing off about guns. Nobody used to compare calibres, muzzle velocity, groupings etc. They were simply a tool that you needed, mainly to shoot wolves or wild dogs. Most of them were shotguns or Lee enfields left over from the war. If you were flashy you might have an AK-47 but for a farmer they are pointless. Anyway I digress...As someone who has spent their life shooting most disciplines, surrounded by firearms what can be seen is that the people who are attracted to owning military style weaponry are weirdos with considerable social issues. And when pistols were permitted in the UK the pistol clubs were full of oddballs who liked to discuss the damage loads would do to people, in stark contrast to the sane subjects that rifle club members discussed. Pistol shooting tended to be very much low brow punters who got a boner from thinking they were Charles Bronson. As for the fully auto, military style weapon fanatics, just something wrong with them.
Gun weirdos always go for the military style kit. Funny that.
Nothing wrong with owning guns. Nothing wrong with enjoying guns/shooting as a sport. However people who think "we're all doomed" and feel that they need guns to survive are either mental or living is some kind of dystopia.
5ohmustang said:
Blib, no that is definitely not the case for gun owners. You must be stressed by the look of such ghastly black evil gun. I feel for you.
Unfortunately, you've become habitualised to your high stress levels. Your mind it tricked into believing that your thoughts and therefore, your feelings are normal. However, they are not. You are being damaged by them and by their very nature, you are unaware of this.It really is a shame for you. We see many such destructive delusions presented at our psychiatric hospital here in London.
You can recover. Most don't.
Still, keep checking over your shoulder. You never know who is behind you now, do you?
5ohmustang said:
The problem is over the last 30 years the government and media have invested millions into brainwashing the British citizen. It is so heavily reinforced the only way you are going to break the conditioning is to have hands on experience. The common response is "it's not so scary after all.". When the msm publishes fake news on gun crime consistently, people who are never around firearms do not know any better. It's more naivety than ignorance. It's just another disarmed country for the UN small arms treaty.
Wow.5ohmustang said:
Oh you crafty little man you! You're quick! Very quick. Never seen a man beat the snake before.
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Countdown said:
DonkeyApple said:
We've had this discussion before so to keep it simple, plenty of completely not real people own shotguns and rifles and use them for sporting purposes.
As someone who has spent their life shooting most disciplines, surrounded by firearms what can be seen is that the people who are attracted to owning military style weaponry are weirdos with considerable social issues. And when pistols were permitted in the UK the pistol clubs were full of oddballs who liked to discuss the damage loads would do to people, in stark contrast to the sane subjects that rifle club members discussed. Pistol shooting tended to be very much low brow punters who got a boner from thinking they were Charles Bronson. As for the fully auto, military style weapon fanatics, just something wrong with them.
Gun weirdos always go for the military style kit. Funny that.
My dad, uncles, grandparents all used to own guns, purely (a) because they were farmers and (b) it was just normal to have guns. People would think it odd if you didn't have a gun. However there wasn't any (not sure what the right words are here) boasting/bragging/showing off about guns. Nobody used to compare calibres, muzzle velocity, groupings etc. They were simply a tool that you needed, mainly to shoot wolves or wild dogs. Most of them were shotguns or Lee enfields left over from the war. If you were flashy you might have an AK-47 but for a farmer they are pointless. Anyway I digress...As someone who has spent their life shooting most disciplines, surrounded by firearms what can be seen is that the people who are attracted to owning military style weaponry are weirdos with considerable social issues. And when pistols were permitted in the UK the pistol clubs were full of oddballs who liked to discuss the damage loads would do to people, in stark contrast to the sane subjects that rifle club members discussed. Pistol shooting tended to be very much low brow punters who got a boner from thinking they were Charles Bronson. As for the fully auto, military style weapon fanatics, just something wrong with them.
Gun weirdos always go for the military style kit. Funny that.
Nothing wrong with owning guns. Nothing wrong with enjoying guns/shooting as a sport. However people who think "we're all doomed" and feel that they need guns to survive are either mental or living is some kind of dystopia.
5ohmustang said:
Battered, you have a hell of a better chance to escape and disappear if that ever did happen again. Hitler disarmed the German populace to make them defenceless and his reason was for "the greater good."
Hate to burst your bubble....but there was a strong groundswell of support for Hitler until he started losing. In fairness the only armed uprisings from the people that have worked have been left leaning.I am going to place a bet that you disapprove......
5ohmustang said:
You don't have to worry about Nazis anymore, the British Caliphate has much bigger problems from within than an invading force/standing army.
Speaking as a white man, from the city of Birmingham - where apparently white men fear to tread according to one of America's observers - bless your heart you sweet naïve boy. You just keep on doing what your infowars bosses tell you to do, and disregard the opinion of people that...you know.....live in the caliphate.
I'm off to watch some porn and drink some booze....god I hope I don't get arrested and executed.
No......wait
Edited by Vocal Minority on Friday 17th February 19:46
PurpleAki said:
5ohmustang said:
The problem is over the last 30 years the government and media have invested millions into brainwashing the British citizen. It is so heavily reinforced the only way you are going to break the conditioning is to have hands on experience. The common response is "it's not so scary after all.". When the msm publishes fake news on gun crime consistently, people who are never around firearms do not know any better. It's more naivety than ignorance. It's just another disarmed country for the UN small arms treaty.
Wow.Blib said:
Unfortunately, you've become habitualised to your high stress levels. Your mind it tricked into believing that your thoughts and therefore, your feelings are normal. However, they are not. You are being damaged by them and by their very nature, you are unaware of this.
It really is a shame for you. We see many such destructive delusions presented at our psychiatric hospital here in London.
You can recover. Most don't.
Still, keep checking over your shoulder. You never know who is behind you now, do you?
High Stress?It really is a shame for you. We see many such destructive delusions presented at our psychiatric hospital here in London.
You can recover. Most don't.
Still, keep checking over your shoulder. You never know who is behind you now, do you?
If I could make a living walking in the woods
You could bet I'd be sitting pretty good
High on a hill looking at a field downwind
If I could make a nickel off a turning 'em bass
Never worry about the price of gas
I'd be wheeling and dealing and sitting there reeling 'em in.
5ohmustang said:
battered said:
Sure. Meanwhile, in the last 70 years, how many times have people in Britain had to "escape and disappear" with the aid of a gun? Meanwhile, how many gun fatalities have we had pa in the UK?
Compare these figures with the USA, where people can arm bears, and the gun crime rates are...ooh, let's see, are they worse or better per capita than the UK?
You pay a heavy price for your "freedom".
Take your fake anti gun propaganda to the news and politics section. I'm not wasting my freedom on your nonsense. Next.Compare these figures with the USA, where people can arm bears, and the gun crime rates are...ooh, let's see, are they worse or better per capita than the UK?
You pay a heavy price for your "freedom".
Efbe said:
I think you have proven my point
You are unable to stand back and look at our own situation from a wider perspective. Try looking at how the far east look at our children. But this matters not. The point is not what you think. That is irrelevant. it is being able to see what people from another culture would think.
And yet you expect the Americans to be able to take our viewpoint on an issue?
With the best will in the world Efbe - no I haven't. You are unable to stand back and look at our own situation from a wider perspective. Try looking at how the far east look at our children. But this matters not. The point is not what you think. That is irrelevant. it is being able to see what people from another culture would think.And yet you expect the Americans to be able to take our viewpoint on an issue?
I took your point and offered evidence to the contrary - from source. People at the coal face. My own experience. Other peoples first hand experience.
You know - evidence. Visible cause and effect.
This all stems from people conflating 'everyone is entitled to an opinion' with 'each opinion is equally valid'
Well....no. They aren't.
If someone actually provided evidence - namely giving an honest appraisal of their experience, I would take it more seriously.
On the other hand you have people talking about the British caliphate - which stands up to no actual scrutiny.
I'd love to know, for example, what 5oh knows from his own experience, not the ravings of others, or breitbart, or infowars or wherever they deem more viable than the normal media - on the basis Trump has told them its all not true - and somehow he is more inherently trustworthy than A.N Other individual with no supporting evidence
Vocal Minority said:
With the best will in the world Efbe - no I haven't.
I took your point and offered evidence to the contrary - from source. People at the coal face. My own experience. Other peoples first hand experience.
You know - evidence. Visible cause and effect.
This all stems from people conflating 'everyone is entitled to an opinion' with 'each opinion is equally valid'
Well....no. They aren't.
If someone actually provided evidence - namely giving an honest appraisal of their experience, I would take it more seriously.
On the other hand you have people talking about the British caliphate - which stands up to no actual scrutiny.
I'd love to know, for example, what 5oh knows from his own experience, not the ravings of others, or breitbart, or infowars or wherever they deem more viable than the normal media - on the basis Trump has told them its all not true - and somehow he is more inherently trustworthy than A.N Other individual with no supporting evidence
My time of breaking down the liberal bias and other issues on here is over. I've spent way too time logically debunking many. I have also seen others do the same and get nowhere. It is a total waste of time arguing your point on here, when the come back are fake news sources like CNN.I took your point and offered evidence to the contrary - from source. People at the coal face. My own experience. Other peoples first hand experience.
You know - evidence. Visible cause and effect.
This all stems from people conflating 'everyone is entitled to an opinion' with 'each opinion is equally valid'
Well....no. They aren't.
If someone actually provided evidence - namely giving an honest appraisal of their experience, I would take it more seriously.
On the other hand you have people talking about the British caliphate - which stands up to no actual scrutiny.
I'd love to know, for example, what 5oh knows from his own experience, not the ravings of others, or breitbart, or infowars or wherever they deem more viable than the normal media - on the basis Trump has told them its all not true - and somehow he is more inherently trustworthy than A.N Other individual with no supporting evidence
The British Caliphate is a reality for many. I witnessed it growing up and I feel sorrow for those who have to live amongst that crap. While others who don't live amongst that crap are too apathetic to finding a solution.
That's all I have to say on that.
Edited by 5ohmustang on Friday 17th February 23:35
5ohmustang said:
The British Caliphate is a reality for many. I witnessed it growing up and I feel sorrow for those who have to live amongst that crap. .
b
ks you did. How old are you - I imagine you to be about 50+? That puts your "growing up" in the 1970s, when the Muslim population of the UK was less than 500,000, less than 1%. How is that a "Caliphate"?
schmunk said:
bks you did.
How old are you - I imagine you to be about 50+? That puts your "growing up" in the 1970s, when the Muslim population of the UK was less than 500,000, less than 1%. How is that a "Caliphate"?
After reading some of your other posts, it's clear you are a leftist, another one that embraces all the sjw B.s.ks you did. How old are you - I imagine you to be about 50+? That puts your "growing up" in the 1970s, when the Muslim population of the UK was less than 500,000, less than 1%. How is that a "Caliphate"?
A "cultural enrichment" apologist. You are damn right I will not be engaging into a fake argument with you.
schmunk said:
5ohmustang said:
The British Caliphate is a reality for many. I witnessed it growing up and I feel sorrow for those who have to live amongst that crap. .
bks you did. How old are you - I imagine you to be about 50+? That puts your "growing up" in the 1970s, when the Muslim population of the UK was less than 500,000, less than 1%. How is that a "Caliphate"?
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