Apostrophe'''''s, when did the rot set in?

[Einion Yrth]

Flintstone said:

Lost_BMW said:

Why are so many people now publicly proud to be 'dumb'? It appears that this sad and pathetic trait is becoming more prevalent in our 'lowest common denominator' society.

When you're the lowest the only way is up.

Some appear to be attempting to be the exception to prove this rule.

[singlecoil]

Einion Yrth said:

Flintstone said:

Lost_BMW said:

Why are so many people now publicly proud to be 'dumb'? It appears that this sad and pathetic trait is becoming more prevalent in our 'lowest common denominator' society.

When you're the lowest the only way is up.

Some appear to be attempting to be the exception to prove this rule.

I think it's a natural defense reaction. They know they are thick, and there isn't (as far as they can see) anything they can do about it, so they pretend to be proud of it. You can see the same thing in other ways too, who hasn't seen ugly young women who have gone to some lengths to make themselves even uglier?

[Lost_BMW]

singlecoil said:

I think it's a natural defense reaction. They know they are thick, and there isn't (as far as they can see) anything they can do about it, so they pretend to be proud of it. You can see the same thing in other ways too, who hasn't seen ugly young women who have gone to some lengths to make themselves even uglier?

I agree that this is one of the main reasons; as if to say that they can't be criticised or offended as they already know about their faults and don't care. I imagine that this is public bluster and that, internally, they do care.

My natural reaction would be sympathetic; to want to help, if the illiteracy/ innumeracy had been caused unwittingly by external or physiological factors but, when it is down to a deliberate wasting of the opportunities eleven years of expensive, state funded, education could have provided and accompanied by boasting and inverted pride in low accomplishment I find it hard to resist the desire to cull!

[ATTAK Z]

singlecoil said:

Einion Yrth said:

Flintstone said:

Lost_BMW said:

Why are so many people now publicly proud to be 'dumb'? It appears that this sad and pathetic trait is becoming more prevalent in our 'lowest common denominator' society.

When you're the lowest the only way is up.

Some appear to be attempting to be the exception to prove this rule.

I think it's a natural defense reaction. They know they are thick, and there isn't (as far as they can see) anything they can do about it, so they pretend to be proud of it. You can see the same thing in other ways too, who hasn't seen ugly young women who have gone to some lengths to make themselves even uglier?

I can cope with thick people who know they are thick ... it's the ones that are thick and think they're not that get me going

Edited by ATTAK Z on Friday 22 April 20:40

[singlecoil]

ATTAK Z said:

I can cope with thick people who know they are thick ... it's the one's that are thick and think they're not that get me going

The best example of that sort of thing that springs to mind is a couple of previous employers I had who, because they had done better than I had, automatically assumed that they were cleverer than me. The problem with that was that everything I suggested that might have benfitted them or their businesses was filtered through their own perception of- "this suggestion is coming from a thick person, I had better ignore it". I gave up in the end.

[marshalla]

ATTAK Z said:

I can cope with thick people who know they are thick ... it's the one's that are thick and think they're not that get me going

;)

[LordGrover]

^^

[Bill]

Rule 1 of grammar pedantry: Always check your post.
Rule 2: Check again.

[dibbly dobbler]

ATTAK Z said:

I can cope with thick people who know they are thick ... it's the one's that are thick and think they're not (like me) that get me going

Loving the irony

[ATTAK Z]

oops

[ATTAK Z]

dibbly dobbler said:

ATTAK Z said:

I can cope with thick people who know they are thick ... it's the one's that are thick and think they're not (like me) that get me going

Loving the irony

surely it should be 'like I' (am) rather than 'like me'
touché por favor

[singlecoil]

ATTAK Z said:

dibbly dobbler said:

ATTAK Z said:

I can cope with thick people who know they are thick ... it's the one's that are thick and think they're not (like me) that get me going

Loving the irony

surely it should be 'like I' (am) rather than 'like me'
touché por favor

It's the 'they' that are the subject of the phrase, not the 'me'.

[ATTAK Z]

singlecoil said:

It's the 'they' that are the subject of the phrase, not the 'me'.

hmmmmmm ... yet to be convinced

[dibbly dobbler]

Keep digging

[singlecoil]

ATTAK Z said:

singlecoil said:

It's the 'they' that are the subject of the phrase, not the 'me'.

hmmmmmm ... yet to be convinced

They (subject) are (verb) like me (object).


Think back to Ruddigore, when Rose reminds Mad Margaret "it is the accusative after the verb". "Me" is the accusative pronoun, "I" is the nominative pronoun.

[ATTAK Z]

They (subject) like (verb) me (object) I can live with but ... 'They are like I am' is correct and 'They are like me' is not

Edited by ATTAK Z on Friday 22 April 22:13

[singlecoil]

ATTAK Z said:

They are like I am

Are they? That's interesting, so they don't understand the difference between "I" and "me" either?

[singlecoil]

ATTAK Z said:

They (subject) like (verb) me (object) I can live with but ... 'They are like I am' is correct and 'They are like me' is not

Edited by ATTAK Z on Friday 22 April 22:13

'They are like me' is correct.

'They are like I am' is very awkward usage. The "I" in this case is correct, but that's because the personal pronoun is no longer the object of the sentence.

[ATTAK Z]

http://ask.metafilter.com/130197/Like-Bob-and-Me-o...

[LordGrover]

the link above rather proves the case against you, no?

I think the hole is quite big enough, you can stop digging.