Management Speak

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smn159

12,835 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
g3org3y said:
Sounds more like st chat from people who are desperate to sound clever/important.
Nothing wrong with being clever and important. Somebody’s got to lead.
Spot on. Lets T-Shirt it, then I can stir fry the results in my think-wok before we pool our brain spaces in a centre of excellence.

Piece of piss.

Countdown

40,177 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
SAS Tom said:
Why is there a need for anything to do with t shirts? If the useful part of it is a size why not call it a size?
What like feet and inches? Kilos? Perhaps European shoe size?

It’s S,M,L,XL


Edited by wormus on Thursday 11th July 19:04
Just to point out that S/M/L/XL are different sizes depending on which shop you go to...something that's an S in Tesco is L in M&S and XXL in River island

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
SAS Tom said:
You say it as if T shirt makes sense!

Why not jumpers, coats or gloves?
We do...in winter
I think it would add a lot more gravitas to the situation if bra sizes were used.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Countdown said:
Just to point out that S/M/L/XL are different sizes depending on which shop you go to...something that's an S in Tesco is L in M&S and XXL in River island
You obviously suffer an eclectic, ill fitting wardrobe.

zarjaz1991

3,521 posts

125 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Gecko1978 said:
S a business analyst I am subject to much of this BS on a daily basis. To be clear I became a BA when I realised I would get paid more to talk crap about my day job than actually do my day job (Risk Analyst in the city).

Agile is the current flavour of the month.

list of tasks = backlog
when a task is done = sprint 1, 2, 3 etc
daily meeting = scrum
person who hosts the meeting = scrum master
more senior project manager = product owner
(note the last 2 are unlikely to actually have a clue what's going on).

Requirments for any activity = user story
collection of requirments = epic

to discover something is wrong = fast fail

its all bullst and I have yet to see it work well
Yep my employers now have all this nonsense.

Since its introduction within the development team (of which I am not a part), the main change seems to be that nothing gets done but there are lots of meetings about things that are supposed to be getting done, but don't.

grumbledoak

31,588 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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g3org3y said:
Sounds more like st chat from people who are desperate to sound clever/important.
It is.

Harpoon

1,887 posts

216 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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smn159 said:
Spot on. Lets T-Shirt it, then I can stir fry the results in my think-wok before we pool our brain spaces in a centre of excellence.

Piece of piss.
Gus Hedges would be proud of that.

grumpy52

5,624 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
SAS Tom said:
Why is there a need for anything to do with t shirts? If the useful part of it is a size why not call it a size?
What like feet and inches? Kilos? Perhaps European shoe size?

It’s S,M,L,XL


Edited by wormus on Thursday 11th July 19:04
But is that UK/US sizes or Chinese sizes ?

jonamv8

3,164 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
g3org3y said:
Sounds more like st chat from people who are desperate to sound clever/important.
Nothing wrong with being clever and important. Somebody’s got to lead.
What line of work are you in?

jonamv8

3,164 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
Gecko1978 said:
S a business analyst I am subject to much of this BS on a daily basis. To be clear I became a BA when I realised I would get paid more to talk crap about my day job than actually do my day job (Risk Analyst in the city).

Agile is the current flavour of the month.

list of tasks = backlog
when a task is done = sprint 1, 2, 3 etc
daily meeting = scrum
person who hosts the meeting = scrum master
more senior project manager = product owner
(note the last 2 are unlikely to actually have a clue what's going on).

Requirments for any activity = user story
collection of requirments = epic

to discover something is wrong = fast fail

its all bullst and I have yet to see it work well
Yep my employers now have all this nonsense.

Since its introduction within the development team (of which I am not a part), the main change seems to be that nothing gets done but there are lots of meetings about things that are supposed to be getting done, but don't.
Which is why as a company who develop software we don’t use it. Our projects get delivered on time, on budget and without major issues. Rather than chat we do, mad concept really.

Scabutz

7,742 posts

82 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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jonamv8 said:
wormus said:
g3org3y said:
Sounds more like st chat from people who are desperate to sound clever/important.
Nothing wrong with being clever and important. Somebody’s got to lead.
What line of work are you in?
My moneys on management consultant

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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jonamv8 said:
What line of work are you in?
Digital transformation.

Scabutz

7,742 posts

82 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
Gecko1978 said:
S a business analyst I am subject to much of this BS on a daily basis. To be clear I became a BA when I realised I would get paid more to talk crap about my day job than actually do my day job (Risk Analyst in the city).

Agile is the current flavour of the month.

list of tasks = backlog
when a task is done = sprint 1, 2, 3 etc
daily meeting = scrum
person who hosts the meeting = scrum master
more senior project manager = product owner
(note the last 2 are unlikely to actually have a clue what's going on).

Requirments for any activity = user story
collection of requirments = epic

to discover something is wrong = fast fail

its all bullst and I have yet to see it work well
Yep my employers now have all this nonsense.

Since its introduction within the development team (of which I am not a part), the main change seems to be that nothing gets done but there are lots of meetings about things that are supposed to be getting done, but don't.
As I said above it depends very much on how its applied. Often the business outside of IT cant adapt or arent trained. But also it can be the IT team who dont understand it properly either.

Agile is not the emperor's new clothes. It can work. But too many companies implement it badly because they think they have to without understanding the benefits and doing it properly.

jonamv8

3,164 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
jonamv8 said:
What line of work are you in?
Digital transformation.
The work or the talking about the work?

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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wormus said:
jonamv8 said:
What line of work are you in?
Digital transformation.
Ah, interesting. What does it mean ?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

120 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Lily the Pink said:
wormus said:
jonamv8 said:
What line of work are you in?
Digital transformation.
Ah, interesting. What does it mean ?
Sounds like new fangled American "lifestyle " name for marketer biggrin

jonamv8

3,164 posts

168 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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Lily the Pink said:
wormus said:
jonamv8 said:
What line of work are you in?
Digital transformation.
Ah, interesting. What does it mean ?
Digital transformation is the profound transformation of business and organizational activities, processes, competencies and models to fully leverage the changes and opportunities of a mix of digital technologies and their accelerating impact across society in a strategic and prioritized way, with present and future shifts in mind.

ruggedscotty

5,647 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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was in a meeting years ago, when this was kinda floating about and starting to take root - the ones that talk with sayings and words that really seem out of place in a Scottish working environment.

I got up and said look out the window - what do you see..... Arran was the answer... and whats around it - sea.... they said. now whats that bit out there where the sea meets the land.... beach they said.... or what else another name.... coast.... bingo... its the freaking west coast of Scotland not cali-ducking-fornia…. I walked out the meeting.

sometimes they just don't get it.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

105 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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ruggedscotty said:
was in a meeting years ago, when this was kinda floating about and starting to take root - the ones that talk with sayings and words that really seem out of place in a Scottish working environment.

I got up and said look out the window - what do you see..... Arran was the answer... and whats around it - sea.... they said. now whats that bit out there where the sea meets the land.... beach they said.... or what else another name.... coast.... bingo... its the freaking west coast of Scotland not cali-ducking-fornia…. I walked out the meeting.

sometimes they just don't get it.
You sure showed them!

Scabutz

7,742 posts

82 months

Thursday 11th July 2019
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jonamv8 said:
Lily the Pink said:
wormus said:
jonamv8 said:
What line of work are you in?
Digital transformation.
Ah, interesting. What does it mean ?
Digital transformation is the profound transformation of business and organizational activities, processes, competencies and models to fully leverage the changes and opportunities of a mix of digital technologies and their accelerating impact across society in a strategic and prioritized way, with present and future shifts in mind.
Nice, good effort. But you went too far and now we know you're trolling us. Good style.