High-class escorts.

[hora]

grumbledoak said:

fido said:

Seriously, man, you could meet nice women through female friendly hobbies .. more of a challenge that handing over fiftys to some Sloaney tart.

Or you could spend the same on dinner with an ugly one and get nowhere! That happens too.

I hear both sides of the argument. Some men are just sleazy. Taking a lady out for dinner in the hope you'll get to know her better (and bed her) is another angle. One can have dual intentions, the other tends to be married men who are Toms.

[Bernd Tost]

That London ladies for hire site reminded me of browsing Auto Trader: Straight to the x amount and under section followed by a browse through the "classics"..



As far as the ethics of "the oldest profession" I can't see an issue if all parties are consenting and doing things entirely of their own free will. It goes without saying that sadly for many girls around the world this isn't the case. Personally I have zero interest in paying, much rather a conversation and a laugh, dinner whatever and waking up and having a brew. Call me old fashioned!

[boxst]

Bernd Tost said:

...without saying that sadly for many girls around the world this isn't the case...

Yes. But then you are getting onto something different. I worked in Thailand for a while, and one of the girls that I got to know who worked in the office told me that basically she had an okay life etc.. but her (much older) sister was sold when she was nine into one of the brothels in Bangkok so that her parents and her could survive in one of the outlying villages.

Edit: So I have absolutely no problem with escorts, massage etc.. as long as it is of their own free will.

[vonuber]

Bernd Tost said:

That London ladies for hire site reminded me of browsing Auto Trader: Straight to the x amount and under section followed by a browse through the "classics"..

I think the Internet has probably had a positive effect on the profession.

[Rich_W]

The lack of free will gets to me.

Is there any guarantee that a girl from a 2nd world place like Albania or Romania is ACTUALLY doing this of their free will? I'd guess that the girls from 1st world countries like UK, France, Holland or Germany. Countries where women have equal rights to men. Are probably more likely to be their choice.

"If" I even felt flushed to pay £200 for an hour! of disappointing another woman I'd not entertain Eastern European (or South American for that matter) The tears and ptsd look in their eyes would put me off!

[glenrobbo]

fido said:

Seriously, man, you could meet nice women through female friendly hobbies .. more of a challenge that handing over fiftys to some Sloaney tart.

What are fiftys?
Some sort of currency?




( Please allow for the fact that some of us are poor pensioners. )

[Cold]

Bernd Tost said:

Personally I have zero interest in paying, much rather a conversation and a laugh, dinner whatever and waking up and having a brew. Call me old fashioned!

Dinner and drinks then back to hers? Sounds nice. Who paid the bill? It's alright, I already know - because if you went Dutch chances are you wouldn't be going back to hers.

[xjay1337]

Rich_W said:

The lack of free will gets to me.

Is there any guarantee that a girl from a 2nd world place like Albania or Romania is ACTUALLY doing this of their free will? I'd guess that the girls from 1st world countries like UK, France, Holland or Germany. Countries where women have equal rights to men. Are probably more likely to be their choice.

"If" I even felt flushed to pay £200 for an hour! of disappointing another woman I'd not entertain Eastern European (or South American for that matter) The tears and ptsd look in their eyes would put me off!

I'd strongly doubt anyone who was listed on a public website would be forcing their girls to work against their will.

[Geekman]

Rich_W said:

The lack of free will gets to me.

Is there any guarantee that a girl from a 2nd world place like Albania or Romania is ACTUALLY doing this of their free will? I'd guess that the girls from 1st world countries like UK, France, Holland or Germany. Countries where women have equal rights to men. Are probably more likely to be their choice.

"If" I even felt flushed to pay £200 for an hour! of disappointing another woman I'd not entertain Eastern European (or South American for that matter) The tears and ptsd look in their eyes would put me off!

This is not the case at all with any of the Eastern European escorts I've met, quite the reverse in fact.

[boxst]

xjay1337 said:

Rich_W said:

The lack of free will gets to me.

Is there any guarantee that a girl from a 2nd world place like Albania or Romania is ACTUALLY doing this of their free will? I'd guess that the girls from 1st world countries like UK, France, Holland or Germany. Countries where women have equal rights to men. Are probably more likely to be their choice.

"If" I even felt flushed to pay £200 for an hour! of disappointing another woman I'd not entertain Eastern European (or South American for that matter) The tears and ptsd look in their eyes would put me off!

I'd strongly doubt anyone who was listed on a public website would be forcing their girls to work against their will.

I was involved in the fringes of all of this as for extra money when I was youngI used to design those postcards that used to be in telephone boxes and some of the first rudimentary websites. Very few Eastern Europeans were trafficked as such, some would be paid to come here but it was certainly of their own free will and weren't forced to stay. The stories were that the Chinese and Korean certainly were: Brought here on some false pretence, their passports taken and forced to work to 'pay back' rent, travel etc.. with very little money for themselves. They (or at least their pimps) advertised on all the normal sites like Gumtree, Craigslist etc.. along with all the others.

[DonkeyApple]

xjay1337 said:

Rich_W said:

The lack of free will gets to me.

Is there any guarantee that a girl from a 2nd world place like Albania or Romania is ACTUALLY doing this of their free will? I'd guess that the girls from 1st world countries like UK, France, Holland or Germany. Countries where women have equal rights to men. Are probably more likely to be their choice.

"If" I even felt flushed to pay £200 for an hour! of disappointing another woman I'd not entertain Eastern European (or South American for that matter) The tears and ptsd look in their eyes would put me off!

I'd strongly doubt anyone who was listed on a public website would be forcing their girls to work against their will.

Not the website. The girls still have 'agents' who arrange their flat rentals, fly them in, get them onto the listings and move them around Europe until they are worn out. Then the 'agent' will purchase a replacement.

Let's be very realistic, there is a very precise reason as to why all the girls are very young and from the 3rd world. And just how does a kid from the backwaters of the EU sort out their London accommodation, arrange the deal with the escort agencies etc? These are not strong, independent women making their own life choices.

[vonuber]

Didn't know eastern Europe was now the 3rd world.

[hora]

vonuber said:

Didn't know eastern Europe was now the 3rd world.

It is to the untravelled/people who only visit Spain and Cancun resorts.

[Dr Jekyll]

DonkeyApple said:

Not the website. The girls still have 'agents' who arrange their flat rentals, fly them in, get them onto the listings and move them around Europe until they are worn out. Then the 'agent' will purchase a replacement.

Let's be very realistic, there is a very precise reason as to why all the girls are very young and from the 3rd world. And just how does a kid from the backwaters of the EU sort out their London accommodation, arrange the deal with the escort agencies etc? These are not strong, independent women making their own life choices.

I've known a few 20ish girls from Eastern Europe who have come to London to study or work, perfectly independently and of their own choice. No more complicated than for a young brit to go on a gap year working abroad.

[xjay1337]

DonkeyApple said:

xjay1337 said:

Rich_W said:

The lack of free will gets to me.

Is there any guarantee that a girl from a 2nd world place like Albania or Romania is ACTUALLY doing this of their free will? I'd guess that the girls from 1st world countries like UK, France, Holland or Germany. Countries where women have equal rights to men. Are probably more likely to be their choice.

"If" I even felt flushed to pay £200 for an hour! of disappointing another woman I'd not entertain Eastern European (or South American for that matter) The tears and ptsd look in their eyes would put me off!

I'd strongly doubt anyone who was listed on a public website would be forcing their girls to work against their will.

Not the website. The girls still have 'agents' who arrange their flat rentals, fly them in, get them onto the listings and move them around Europe until they are worn out. Then the 'agent' will purchase a replacement.

Let's be very realistic, there is a very precise reason as to why all the girls are very young and from the 3rd world. And just how does a kid from the backwaters of the EU sort out their London accommodation, arrange the deal with the escort agencies etc? These are not strong, independent women making their own life choices.

I'm not denying that that doesn't happen. It does.

But I really don't think that happens to the girls who are being advertised on these "high class" websites. It simply wouldn't go down well.

Some may even do it at home?

Did you read the article above from an owner of an agency? I can't remember but the #1 "job" was student, then it was something else, then office worker and nurse! (oi oi!).

[DonkeyApple]

hora said:

vonuber said:

Didn't know eastern Europe was now the 3rd world.

It is to the untravelled/people who only visit Spain and Cancun resorts.

And to people who go there on business. The sorts of towns where these girls emanate from are not 1st world. I've never been to a 'resort'.

[DonkeyApple]

xjay1337 said:

I'm not denying that that doesn't happen. It does.

But I really don't think that happens to the girls who are being advertised on these "high class" websites. It simply wouldn't go down well.

Some may even do it at home?

Did you read the article above from an owner of an agency? I can't remember but the #1 "job" was student, then it was something else, then office worker and nurse! (oi oi!).

They aren't 'high class'. They don't do it from home. Their 'agents' rent apartments and they work from those.

Just because the website says the words 'high class' it really doesn't mean it's true. And none of the info about the girls will be true.

[xjay1337]

So they don't do OWO?

[Rich_W]

Wtf is OWO?

Is it where they hit you? S&M stuff?

EDIT
Googled it.

Not sure I want a kiss though afterwards knowing how many other cocks have been in there recently!

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 8th January 22:19

[Yipper]

Hoofy said:

Yipper said:

Some will even rent you a dancer on booty call for a month, for about £1000 (cash).

I have no idea what that means.

Anyway, I was only kidding about finding out where to get that kind of thing.

You're not foolin' anyone

It means you pay a local lapdancer ~£1000 a month "retainer" and she will give you her direct mobile number and you can call her at any time (day or night) with an hour's notice and she will drop by your house and give you a happy ending (max 1 per day).

Many find lapdancing pays less than expected, and their window of maximum earning potential is small (<10 years, typically), so they become semi-highclass escorts on the side.