Common mistakes or misnomers

Common mistakes or misnomers

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Louis Balfour

26,539 posts

224 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Trenchard said:
It's "Hoist with his own petard" (Shakespeare, Hamlet). A petard was an explosive device that would 'hoist' you, i.e. blow you into the air.
I think "Hoist with his own retard" is more appropriate where come posters are concerned.


psi310398

9,244 posts

205 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Johnspex said:
Baths have been run since before I was small and I'm nearly 70.
And if they keep still long enough, you can draw them, toosmile!

Pinkie15

1,248 posts

82 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Higgs boson said:
[quote=I have one of these...



...and I'm seriously considering calling it a DNA staircase.
You'd need 2 of them for that! smile
Call it a RNA staircase, then

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

263 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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lord trumpton said:
As dull as 'dishwater' instead of ditchwater
Dishwater is pretty dull, arguably duller than ditch water. Cliche avoidance is commendable and should not be confused with solecism.

As for common mistakes:

Assuming the expression 'exception that proves the rule' is gobbledegook. when what it means, that a rule that still holds in exceptional circumstances can be regarded as proven, is a reasonable point.

'Begging the question' to mean inviting a question when it actually means assuming what you are supposed to be trying to prove.

Saying something is a 'moot point' to imply it's irrelevant rather than debateable. If something is a moot point then it might be exactly the point you need to discuss to settle the issue.

Confusing 'envy' with 'jealousy'.

paulguitar

24,068 posts

115 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Dr Jekyll said:
Saying something is a 'moot point' to imply it's irrelevant rather than debateable. If something is a moot point then it might be exactly the point you need to discuss to settle the issue.
Sometimes amusing referred to as a 'mute point'.




Pinkie15

1,248 posts

82 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Confusing 'that' and 'which'.

Though I guess its become so common nobody notices, or cares.

'of' when it should be 'have'

there / they're / their

Johnspex

4,356 posts

186 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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paulguitar said:
gregs656 said:
Same with 'I could case less' - idioms don't have to conform to logic.
The problem with that one is it appears so glaringly illogical that it is difficult to ignore.


Johnspex said:
Baths have been run since before I was small and I'm nearly 70.
I'm not daft. I left the plug out!


You should go and check on those, they've probably overflowed.

andy_s

19,424 posts

261 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Herbal tea contains no tea, one-night stands are done lying down and a fish slice is no good for slicing fish.

MBBlat

1,681 posts

151 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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StevieBee said:
MBBlat said:
Calling any grey painted ship with a gun a “battleship”. It’s a warship and now the USN have finally retired the Iowas there are no battleships in active service.
Probably one for the any questions thread but as we're here... what defines (or it seems, defined) one from the other?
A Battleship (BB) is a heavily armoured warship with a large calibre gun main armament. They are subdivided into pre and post Dreadnaught types, with the latter having a the same calibre guns for the main armament. If you reduce the armour to increase speed you get a battlecruiser (BC), eg HMS Hood.

"A warship means a ship belonging to the armed forces of a State bearing the external marks distinguishing such ships of its nationality, under the command of an officer duly commissioned by the government of the State and whose name appears in the appropriate service list or its equivalent, and manned by a crew which is under regular armed forces discipline."

paulguitar

24,068 posts

115 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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andy_s said:
one-night stands are done lying down
Not necessarily.



SBF

216 posts

47 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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This might have already been posted, but often people use "Blood is thicker than water" to suggest family members are more important than friends.

The full quote was "The blood of the covenant runs thicker than the water of the womb" which means the opposite - a bond made with someone you've shed blood with is stronger than someone you may have shared a womb with.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

263 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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SBF said:
This might have already been posted, but often people use "Blood is thicker than water" to suggest family members are more important than friends.

The full quote was "The blood of the covenant runs thicker than the water of the womb" which means the opposite - a bond made with someone you've shed blood with is stronger than someone you may have shared a womb with.
Shakespeare or..?

SBF

216 posts

47 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Tyre Smoke said:
Shakespeare or..?
I'm not sure, sorry! Briefly googling brings up quite ambiguous origins.

madbadger

11,579 posts

246 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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SBF said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Shakespeare or..?
I'm not sure, sorry! Briefly googling brings up quite ambiguous origins.
I think it is biblical.

breamster

1,017 posts

182 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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This may be a repeat but when people try sound clever by using the word methodology in place of method! Grrh

toon10

6,241 posts

159 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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My friend has accused me of making a lot of these common mistakes. It really upset me so I told him that I resembled the incineration.

breamster

1,017 posts

182 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Another one.

The original meaning of "Blood is thicker than water" is the exact opposite of how people use the phrase today.

StevieBee

13,002 posts

257 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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breamster said:
This may be a repeat but when people try sound clever by using the word methodology in place of method! Grrh
There is a difference.

Method describes the means of how something will or has been done.

Methodology describes the thinking, reasoning and detail behind the method chosen.

I often have to write tenders and where I'm required to write a method statement, that typically runs to no more than a page of A4. If I'm asked to describe the methodology, that tends to constitute 60% of the document or more.



madbadger

11,579 posts

246 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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breamster said:
Another one.

The original meaning of "Blood is thicker than water" is the exact opposite of how people use the phrase today.
People still not reading the posts a couple above.

Have we had PIN number yet?

DickyC

50,020 posts

200 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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