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I love the waitbutwhy on this. To physically write a googolplex you'd need to fill the entire universe with grains of sand, then take a really small pen and write a billion zeroes on each grain of sand. A lifetime of writing zeroes would cover half a grain of sand.
Maths is crazy. Does anyone know if it is actually an actual thing, or is it a projection that seems to fit reality like Sun Worship/sacrifice once were?
Maths is crazy. Does anyone know if it is actually an actual thing, or is it a projection that seems to fit reality like Sun Worship/sacrifice once were?
"The answer is definitely smaller than this- the biggest number ever concieved"stuartmmcfc said:
He often goes through the papers for items so probably explains why he mentioned it.
(RE Googol) I read the press (various) daily, yes. I did read this nugget in an article, I found it interesting, so I posted it here as I thought of the thread.
That said, I don't trawl the media simply to find things to post on Pistonheads, so if that's your suggestion then it's a pretty bizarre one.
If I see an article of someone driving like a tool I may think to post it on the s
t driving thread, someone complaining to their housing dept about a leaking flat roof, after putting a 2 tonne kiddy pool on it, the council thread. Isn't that the case with much of the content on such threads?
Edited by Fermit and Sarah on Thursday 6th September 23:40
Edited by Fermit and Sarah on Thursday 6th September 23:44
Russian Troll Bot said:
On the subject of large numbers, I recently saw a video about how pi is one of the reasons the universe can't be some sort of Matrix style simulation, since it would not have the capacity to create an infinite number
There are any number, of 'infinite' numbers. Transcendental numbers, like pi, e, etc - well yes, they are interesting ...
Russian Troll Bot said:
On the subject of large numbers, I recently saw a video about how pi is one of the reasons the universe can't be some sort of Matrix style simulation, since it would not have the capacity to create an infinite number
pi isn't an infinite number, and all you have to do to 'create' it is draw a circle.Fermit and Sarah said:
stuartmmcfc said:
He often goes through the papers for items so probably explains why he mentioned it.
(RE Googol) I read the press (various) daily, yes. I did read this nugget in an article, I found it interesting, so I posted it here as I thought of the thread.
That said, I don't trawl the media simply to find things to post on Pistonheads, so if that's your suggestion then it's a pretty bizarre one.
If I see an article of someone driving like a tool I may think to post it on the s
t driving thread, someone complaining to their housing dept about a leaking flat roof, after putting a 2 tonne kiddy pool on it, the council thread. Isn't that the case with much of the content on such threads?
Edited by Fermit and Sarah on Thursday 6th September 23:40
Edited by Fermit and Sarah on Thursday 6th September 23:44
Spoon Burner said:
Fermit and Sarah said:
stuartmmcfc said:
He often goes through the papers for items so probably explains why he mentioned it.
(RE Googol) I read the press (various) daily, yes. I did read this nugget in an article, I found it interesting, so I posted it here as I thought of the thread.
That said, I don't trawl the media simply to find things to post on Pistonheads, so if that's your suggestion then it's a pretty bizarre one.
If I see an article of someone driving like a tool I may think to post it on the s
t driving thread, someone complaining to their housing dept about a leaking flat roof, after putting a 2 tonne kiddy pool on it, the council thread. Isn't that the case with much of the content on such threads?
Edited by Fermit and Sarah on Thursday 6th September 23:40
Edited by Fermit and Sarah on Thursday 6th September 23:44
Occasionally you get the oddest of digs on here, and I thought he was implying that I just go out looking for them
I recently ironed out something I hadn't understood correctly since I began spannering
in earnes (about 50 years ago).
I always thought 'dop forged' involved a process much like the one used in making
perfectly spherical musket balls in a shot tower.The item was dropped into water.
Wrong! A spanner, or whatever is made by heating a billet of metal to 1000C or so
and bashing it between a pair of dies. A power hammer does the bashing and the 'drop'
refers to what the hammer is doing.
It seems this aligns the grain in the metal to the shape being made, making it tougher and harder.
Every day's a school day, etc.
in earnes (about 50 years ago).
I always thought 'dop forged' involved a process much like the one used in making
perfectly spherical musket balls in a shot tower.The item was dropped into water.
Wrong! A spanner, or whatever is made by heating a billet of metal to 1000C or so
and bashing it between a pair of dies. A power hammer does the bashing and the 'drop'
refers to what the hammer is doing.
It seems this aligns the grain in the metal to the shape being made, making it tougher and harder.
Every day's a school day, etc.
Yep, with only a very minor correction - only good tools are actually so forged.
tl;dr: buy the one tool you really need for the task at hand / one piece at a time, at the best quality/cost you can possibly stand - they'll fit right, feel right, work right, / not break the part - always, for a life time
(180+piece, bargain-bucket jobs for a 'friday night beer budget' will not only not do it, they'll annoy everytime you go near using any component of such a 'bargain' owing to their slippery ability to not fit right/work right/slither away from their responsibilities damaging other things on the way. Utter toss. in comparison that £25 socket is actually a bargain if it did what you needed, once, accurately, and esp. repeatedly)
tl;dr: buy the one tool you really need for the task at hand / one piece at a time, at the best quality/cost you can possibly stand - they'll fit right, feel right, work right, / not break the part - always, for a life time
(180+piece, bargain-bucket jobs for a 'friday night beer budget' will not only not do it, they'll annoy everytime you go near using any component of such a 'bargain' owing to their slippery ability to not fit right/work right/slither away from their responsibilities damaging other things on the way. Utter toss. in comparison that £25 socket is actually a bargain if it did what you needed, once, accurately, and esp. repeatedly)
Edited by Huff on Monday 10th September 01:56
davhill said:
I always thought 'drop forged' involved a process much like the one used in making
perfectly spherical musket balls in a shot tower.The item was dropped into water.
errr.....so did you think a lump of metal was dropped into a tower of water and formed itself into a spanner as it fell perfectly spherical musket balls in a shot tower.The item was dropped into water.
I'm not taking the P btw, most people don't know how most things are made, just intrigued as to how you thought the shape happened
john2443 said:
errr.....so did you think a lump of metal was dropped into a tower of water and formed itself into a spanner as it fell
I'm not taking the P btw, most people don't know how most things are made, just intrigued as to how you thought the shape happened
No, smartybreeks . I thought the already shaped, nearly white hot tool was dropped to cool on the way down then quench. Something to do with the hardening (in my uneducated brain). I'm not taking the P btw, most people don't know how most things are made, just intrigued as to how you thought the shape happened
Huff said:
Yep, with only a very minor correction - only good tools are actually so forged.
tl;dr: buy the one tool you really need for the task at hand / one piece at a time, at the best quality/cost you can possibly stand - they'll fit right, feel right, work right, / not break the part - always, for a life time
(180+piece, bargain-bucket jobs for a 'friday night beer budget' will not only not do it, they'll annoy everytime you go near using any component of such a 'bargain' owing to their slippery ability to not fit right/work right/slither away from their responsibilities damaging other things on the way. Utter toss. in comparison that £25 socket is actually a bargain if it did what you needed, once, accurately, and esp. repeatedly)
I spent 200 quid on a Halfords professional toolkit a couple of years ago on recommendation from ph. tl;dr: buy the one tool you really need for the task at hand / one piece at a time, at the best quality/cost you can possibly stand - they'll fit right, feel right, work right, / not break the part - always, for a life time
(180+piece, bargain-bucket jobs for a 'friday night beer budget' will not only not do it, they'll annoy everytime you go near using any component of such a 'bargain' owing to their slippery ability to not fit right/work right/slither away from their responsibilities damaging other things on the way. Utter toss. in comparison that £25 socket is actually a bargain if it did what you needed, once, accurately, and esp. repeatedly)
Edited by Huff on Monday 10th September 01:56
They are good quality, though not amazing to look at. Not a patch however, on my grandfather's WW2 toolkit. If you look carefully you can see either the German eagle crest and swastika emblems. He still uses them at 96 years old. Fantastic.
matthias73 said:
I spent 200 quid on a Halfords professional toolkit a couple of years ago on recommendation from ph.
They are good quality, though not amazing to look at. Not a patch however, on my grandfather's WW2 toolkit. If you look carefully you can see either the German eagle crest and swastika emblems. He still uses them at 96 years old. Fantastic.
Agreed, most of my tool kit is Halfords pro and was used on agricultural machines for a few years before I changed jobs. Never had one break, ratchets work well despite being submerged in water for days at a time, and they were half the price of most other good brands. They are good quality, though not amazing to look at. Not a patch however, on my grandfather's WW2 toolkit. If you look carefully you can see either the German eagle crest and swastika emblems. He still uses them at 96 years old. Fantastic.
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