Tesco clubcard pricing differential...

Tesco clubcard pricing differential...

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r3g

3,360 posts

25 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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Colonel Cupcake said:
Glosphil said:
Similar to Tesco's lower prices with a Club card, Sainsbury's now have dual pricing for Nectar cards. Some of the differences are staggering. Tenesee Whisky - usually £33 but if a Nectar card used then £22!
It's probably £22 in all the other supermarkets. Not really a saving. More of a punishment for not having a nectar card.
It is. £8 for Gold Blend 200g in Sainsburys now. £7 in Tesco, or £6 with CC. One example of many.

I used to frequent Sainsburys a lot as they had several items I like that aren't available in the other supermarkets so got the rest of my groceries while I was there for convenience, even though I knew it would cost me a bit more in total. However they no longer stock my favourite items so I have no reason to shop there now, and it's just as well because I noticed yesterday that their pricing has gone mental compared to Tesco/Asda, with the majority of items priced £0.50 to £1.00 more. What would have been £55 in Sainsburys vs £50 in Tesco, is now more like £75 in Sainsburys nono .

I've noticed that Morrisons are going down the same path as Sainsburys with bonkers pricing on most of their items and they are doring the dual pricing thing too. It was only when I'd finished scanning my items I noticed that the 'Meal Deal' price only applies if you have a Morrisons 'More' card, otherwise you pay the full price which is 50p more! I went back to the shelf to check the label, and it is listed there in the tiniest writing possible rolleyes .

okgo

38,337 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th May 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
Yep spot on utter lunacy.

No one is being forced to do anything, pay extra, shop somewhere they don't want etc.

Nothing onerous involved in getting the extra discounts if you want.

No draw backs in doing so other than a tiny bit of effort in acquiring the loyalty card in the first place.

People are completely free to shop and do what they want, yet some loons are making a massive issue out of it!

if Tesco or whomever reduce the rewards available as well, so what, its their scheme, they don't have to offer rewards - its a nice bonus.

Shop a, charges more than shop b, if that bothered shop around. If for some insane reason you refuse the loyalty card more fool you.

Its not even a debate yet here we are 50million pages on.

People with too much time on their hands getting frothed over non issues.
All while posting on a site that harvests data and makes them the product across the internet for advertising. Hilarious lack of awareness from the tinfoil crew as ever.

captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

35 months

Friday 12th May 2023
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texaxile said:
Skyedriver said:
Two weeks ago a pack of 8 penguin biscuits were £1.50
This week a pack of Penguin biscuits is £1.50 or £1.00 on Clubcard. Except this week there are only 7 in a pack.....
Yeah, but Penguins are the poorest attempt at a chocolate biscuit ever. The chocolate melts in the wrapper, meaning that you have to eat the biscuit then stick your tongue inside the wrapper to avail of the melted chocolate.

I'd rather have a Trio.
There's a thread or two I think I have contributed towards (maybe even started, I can't remember), provoked by shrinkflation and McVities Gold bars.

They used to come in a single packet of at least 8 or something, for £1, and then there'd be a 3-sleeve bumper pack for £2.

And the bars were several bitefuls each.

Last year, the price was the same, but there were less bars per packet (and also in the bumper pack) and far less actual product per bar.

I calculated that the consumer was being deprived of a fair few bars of the original size. Possibly even a full packet of bars.

0Seriously, I hadn't bought them in so long that the shrinkage was obvious and a bar could've been chomped in one mouthful. They may as well just sell them as as party mini fun size and stop with the whole 'be treatwise' thing.

Saleen836

11,150 posts

210 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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Saleen836 said:
I read Tesco are changing the Clubcard rewards now......
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/tesco-slashing-valu...

They are also now cutting the points when buying fuel, from 14 June 2023, Tesco is making a change to the number of Clubcard points you can collect.You’ve always been able to collect 1 point for every £2 of fuel you buy at a Tesco Petrol Filling Station.However, they are lowering how many points you can collect.Instead, they’re reducing the value, so you collect 1 point for every 2 litres of fuel.
A further email from them today informing me that they are also cutting the reward with Virgin Flying club, currently 1 clubcard point = 2.5 airmiles, from July 21 it will drop to 1cc point = 2 airmiles

James6112

4,503 posts

29 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65854124
“Tesco could be breaking law on Clubcard pricing, says Which?”

I’ll side with which on this one, despite the Tesco attempt at deflection !

Spare tyre

9,703 posts

131 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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captain.scarlet said:
texaxile said:
Skyedriver said:
Two weeks ago a pack of 8 penguin biscuits were £1.50
This week a pack of Penguin biscuits is £1.50 or £1.00 on Clubcard. Except this week there are only 7 in a pack.....
Yeah, but Penguins are the poorest attempt at a chocolate biscuit ever. The chocolate melts in the wrapper, meaning that you have to eat the biscuit then stick your tongue inside the wrapper to avail of the melted chocolate.

I'd rather have a Trio.
There's a thread or two I think I have contributed towards (maybe even started, I can't remember), provoked by shrinkflation and McVities Gold bars.

They used to come in a single packet of at least 8 or something, for £1, and then there'd be a 3-sleeve bumper pack for £2.

And the bars were several bitefuls each.

Last year, the price was the same, but there were less bars per packet (and also in the bumper pack) and far less actual product per bar.

I calculated that the consumer was being deprived of a fair few bars of the original size. Possibly even a full packet of bars.

0Seriously, I hadn't bought them in so long that the shrinkage was obvious and a bar could've been chomped in one mouthful. They may as well just sell them as as party mini fun size and stop with the whole 'be treatwise' thing.
I used to work with a fella who would pick up 10 multipacks of stuff and the weigh them in the veg aisle and choose the heaviest

Typically some would be over weight, never under weight

Guess over weight, just give it away - cheaper than sorting

Nurburgsingh

5,135 posts

239 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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James6112 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65854124
“Tesco could be breaking law on Clubcard pricing, says Which?”

I’ll side with which on this one, despite the Tesco attempt at deflection !
Giant retailer in gaming the rules to benefit themselves shocker...

What Which have failed to pick up on is whilst the ketchup might well be cheaper per gram in the bigger bottle - the bigger bottle STILL COSTS MORE... and if you're shopping on a fixed budget of £X per week then its £X per week... not £X +/- 50p in case theres a better £/Lb deal to be had.

I would suggest that 99% of Tesco shoppers have a phone with a calculator app on it. If people are too lazy or too easily distracted by yellow stickers to work out the cost of what they are buying then I suggest that they go stand in front of a mirror and pull their Daily Mail face.

addey

1,051 posts

168 months

Friday 9th June 2023
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Spare tyre said:
I used to work with a fella who would pick up 10 multipacks of stuff and the weigh them in the veg aisle and choose the heaviest

Typically some would be over weight, never under weight

Guess over weight, just give it away - cheaper than sorting
I buy 1kg packs of chicken wings for the dog, which should result in 3 portions of ~330g but the portions are always more like 375g so at least 10% overweight, bargain! biggrin

Skyedriver

17,997 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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texaxile said:
Yeah, but Penguins are the poorest attempt at a chocolate biscuit ever. The chocolate melts in the wrapper, meaning that you have to eat the biscuit then stick your tongue inside the wrapper to avail of the melted chocolate.

I'd rather have a Trio.
Manage e trois?

yellowjack

17,085 posts

167 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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Nurburgsingh said:
James6112 said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65854124
“Tesco could be breaking law on Clubcard pricing, says Which?”

I’ll side with which on this one, despite the Tesco attempt at deflection !
Giant retailer in gaming the rules to benefit themselves shocker...

What Which have failed to pick up on is whilst the ketchup might well be cheaper per gram in the bigger bottle - the bigger bottle STILL COSTS MORE... and if you're shopping on a fixed budget of £X per week then its £X per week... not £X +/- 50p in case theres a better £/Lb deal to be had.

I would suggest that 99% of Tesco shoppers have a phone with a calculator app on it. If people are too lazy or too easily distracted by yellow stickers to work out the cost of what they are buying then I suggest that they go stand in front of a mirror and pull their Daily Mail face.
I think the 'Which' complaint is that it would be incredibly easy for Tesco (and all the other similar deal discounters) to just put the "price per 100 ml/grams" on the bottom of the Clubcard Price ticket, just as they do (I assume because the law says they must) on the standard shelf edge label.

You don't need to be a "special educational needs" kid to find comparison maths awkward, because many products aren't sold in easily converted quantities (round numbers).

I was looking at Pepsi in Tesco last week. There's a Clubcard Offer of 2 x 2 litre bottles for £3.50, and usually the 1.25 litre bottles are, per 100 ml, far more expensive, but there was a deal on them too, which brought them down, per 100 ml, lower than the Clubcard reduction on the bigger multibuy bottles. I was OK, I worked it out in my head, but it took some thinking about "on the hoof" to bring it to a price I could directly compare. Turned out that buying 2 x 1.25 litre bottles was the equivalent of £3.20 per 4 litres.

A lot of things we might assume are liquids (table sauces, etc) and things sold in jars pickled in liquid (beetroot, red cabbage, etc) are actually sold by weight, not volume. Many packs, therefore, come up at odd sizes, not ending in zeros. 335. 120. 156. 910. All weights, in grams, of sauces or pickled goods by drained weight. Not so easy to compare prices if you're a harassed parent or someone with a busy life shopping between other activities in your day.

While we're at trying to persuade Tesco to just print this additional information, which their automated systems already have stored, when they print the shelf edge tickets for offers, perhaps the UK government could also end the nonsense of having some things priced per kilo/litre, and others priced per 100 grams/ml. Again, yes, it is (or should be) simple to add or remove a zero to make a swift comparison, but it can effectively be a tax on folk who get anxious at the very thought of doing a bit of mental arithmetic. Then ALL shelf edge pricing would be in units which are easy to compare one with another. It isn't hard to do, and you can bet the top tier management at Tesco would have already implemented it if their psychologists and business analysts weren't telling them that the current disjointed, opaque system of unit comparison prices wasn't leading some customers to spend more per unit on a product than they need to. Call it a tax on the stupid if you want to, but you don't have to be "stupid" to fall for these marketing tricks that ALL supermarkets play on us...

captain.scarlet

1,824 posts

35 months

Tuesday 13th June 2023
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If any regulators are taking this matter up then I'm surprised it has taken so long.

Of course, as per the post above, people who don't pay attention, know or learn how the pricing per unit and barkers work are easy prey.

I believe the inconsistencies in units are thanks to manufacturers.

Most common example I think of is mayonnaise. Heinz, Hellman's and supermarket own brands switch across millilitres and grams. There really should he no discrepancies.

Then compare it with toilet roll or kitchen roll, which is a completely different scenario, whereby the unit is 'per roll' but look at the packaging and you'll find differing sheet sizes/dimensions, ply numbers and sheets per roll.

N111BJG

1,094 posts

64 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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My laziness cost me 50p earlier

Filling station Meal Deal £3.40 with CC, £3.90 without.

Left my phone that has CC in the wallet in the car & couldn’t be bothered to walk over to get it.

The triple chicken sandwich was schit anyway, wish I had walked over to car, got in & driven away

(No petroleum purchases were made on this visit)

Gigamoons

17,761 posts

201 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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captain.scarlet said:
If any regulators are taking this matter up then I'm surprised it has taken so long.

Of course, as per the post above, people who don't pay attention, know or learn how the pricing per unit and barkers work are easy prey.

I believe the inconsistencies in units are thanks to manufacturers.

Most common example I think of is mayonnaise. Heinz, Hellman's and supermarket own brands switch across millilitres and grams. There really should he no discrepancies.

Then compare it with toilet roll or kitchen roll, which is a completely different scenario, whereby the unit is 'per roll' but look at the packaging and you'll find differing sheet sizes/dimensions, ply numbers and sheets per roll.
The SKU info is uploaded onto retailer systems directly by the suppliers.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

47 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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the only option you have with shrinking even if you like something is to stop buying it. I used to buy the Go Ahead fruit flat bars, two in a pack five packs in a wrapper, great for brekkie in the morning.

They kept the price the same and dropped it to 4 packs, haven't bought one since, and even got tot he checkout initially without realising, and put it on the side so as not to buy it.

Most things shrink in some way, but initially my policy is always to stop buying them for probably years before hoping it changes, which it never does so they lose custom.

Gigamoons

17,761 posts

201 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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LukeBrown66 said:
the only option you have with shrinking even if you like something is to stop buying it. I used to buy the Go Ahead fruit flat bars, two in a pack five packs in a wrapper, great for brekkie in the morning.

They kept the price the same and dropped it to 4 packs, haven't bought one since, and even got tot he checkout initially without realising, and put it on the side so as not to buy it.

Most things shrink in some way, but initially my policy is always to stop buying them for probably years before hoping it changes, which it never does so they lose custom.
If it’s a unit size that’s difficult to remanufacture, the only option is to up the price.
But if the price point is important ie £2 or something, then change the size and keep the price.

It’s just ways to manage input cost inflation.

In a deflationary market, promo weights and frequency increase.
As do extra free packs ie 3 pack now has an extra 1 free. That tends to be shouted about on pack though!

InitialDave

11,988 posts

120 months

Wednesday 14th June 2023
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LukeBrown66 said:
the only option you have with shrinking even if you like something is to stop buying it. I used to buy the Go Ahead fruit flat bars, two in a pack five packs in a wrapper, great for brekkie in the morning.

They kept the price the same and dropped it to 4 packs, haven't bought one since, and even got tot he checkout initially without realising, and put it on the side so as not to buy it.

Most things shrink in some way, but initially my policy is always to stop buying them for probably years before hoping it changes, which it never does so they lose custom.
They're on a clubcard price at Tesco for £1.25 instead of £1.75 at present, so maybe stock up on them now. It might be a 20% smaller pack, but that's a 29% smaller cost.

Rufus Stone

6,465 posts

57 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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It appears that M&S have now embarked on this penalty pricing model.

irked

Whataguy

851 posts

81 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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Rufus Stone said:
It appears that M&S have now embarked on this penalty pricing model.

irked
My local Sainsbury's has just added it too - special prices only for Nectar card owners.

Plus you can't get out of the store now after paying unless you scan your receipt to open the barriers at the self-checkout, so they must be expecting lots of theft as a result.

okgo

38,337 posts

199 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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It’s to fuel their data business. Digital transformation relies on data and customer understanding.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

109 months

Thursday 13th July 2023
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Whataguy said:
Plus you can't get out of the store now after paying unless you scan your receipt to open the barriers at the self-checkout, so they must be expecting lots of theft as a result.
That seems backwards, I never print receipts.