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The fkers are still snooping around my part of Kent, long after they're normally back in their nice warm houses. I don't know whether this is symptomatic of the wider take-up of the "traveller lifestyle" by those who just want life outside the law but don't have the big Rathkeale house to fall back on.
They have today parked up outside the large yard of a local recovery firm, run by a local guy, who specialises in having unusual, very customised, very expensive trucks (his passion/hobby and has been for years). I imagine he's gong to have to pay several employees to remain on site overnight to deter the visitors from helping themselves to anything not bolted down.
They have today parked up outside the large yard of a local recovery firm, run by a local guy, who specialises in having unusual, very customised, very expensive trucks (his passion/hobby and has been for years). I imagine he's gong to have to pay several employees to remain on site overnight to deter the visitors from helping themselves to anything not bolted down.
Edited by CAPP0 on Thursday 2nd November 18:09
As it's a Fail link we need to add the caveat "If true" but seriously, what the actusl F?
Police REFUSE to enter travellers' site over safety fears http://dailym.ai/2ArRRvz
Police REFUSE to enter travellers' site over safety fears http://dailym.ai/2ArRRvz
Benjaminpalma said:
theres some comedy gold in thereIn the area around me the crime rate has jumped, probably 10 fold, in the last 6 months.
It is all the typical
type of crime. Garden sheds, outbuildings, small businesses, diesel thefts, batteries, scrap, metal gates, construction equipment, tools, garden equipment.
On top of that there is the hare coursing and poaching.
They seem to realise the Police are stretched very thin ATM. The Police/Courts/Authorities need to take a much more pro-active approach to the problem.
Every vehicle we get registration details for is not registered, taxed, insured or MOT'd but are still on the roads. With modern surveillance equipment it should be possible to gain evidence to at least confiscate and crush these vehicles. If the pikies can't get about, they can't commit crime.
Cut them off at the knees!
It is all the typical
type of crime. Garden sheds, outbuildings, small businesses, diesel thefts, batteries, scrap, metal gates, construction equipment, tools, garden equipment.On top of that there is the hare coursing and poaching.
They seem to realise the Police are stretched very thin ATM. The Police/Courts/Authorities need to take a much more pro-active approach to the problem.
Every vehicle we get registration details for is not registered, taxed, insured or MOT'd but are still on the roads. With modern surveillance equipment it should be possible to gain evidence to at least confiscate and crush these vehicles. If the pikies can't get about, they can't commit crime.
Cut them off at the knees!
Edited by jeremyc on Thursday 9th November 07:44
FiF said:
As it's a Fail link we need to add the caveat "If true" but seriously, what the actusl F?
Police REFUSE to enter travellers' site over safety fears http://dailym.ai/2ArRRvz
Police refused to recover my friend’s quad bike (he’s a farmer and used it to drive round his various fields). Police REFUSE to enter travellers' site over safety fears http://dailym.ai/2ArRRvz
No microlight or drone required as it could be seen in an encampment from a public highway.
“Too much trouble” said the Police “just run it through your insurance”.
My friend took this higher up and was told that firearms officers would have to attend any recovery and it could cause serious issues. My friend said this is just ridiculous I’ll go in and get it myself - was told if he attempted to do so he would be arrested for breach of the peace, for his own protection.
He was then introduced to a liaison officer who said he’d see what he could do to assist, would go and talk to the tribal elders or whatever they are called. Bike was gone the next day, never to be seen again.
Now my mate simply would not let this drop - put in lots of letters to Chief Constable and his MP etc. All responses very sympathetic but focused on danger to his person or to the officers.
He did write quite a sarcastic one near the end of this process - as I recall it was along the lines of: ‘so it’s okay if I steal a car and then threaten your officers if they come to arrest me, you’ll just leave me alone in those circumstances and won’t arrest me then? (Or something like that). The response was that they understood his frustration etc etc.
In the end his wife told him to stop it as he was wasting his time and had better things to do. She was right of course! This was a few years back now before all this Facebook nonsense and I guess now he could have made more of a fuss in the media?
jdw100 said:
Police refused to recover my friend’s quad bike (he’s a farmer and used it to drive round his various fields).
No microlight or drone required as it could be seen in an encampment from a public highway.
“Too much trouble” said the Police “just run it through your insurance”.
My friend took this higher up and was told that firearms officers would have to attend any recovery and it could cause serious issues. My friend said this is just ridiculous I’ll go in and get it myself - was told if he attempted to do so he would be arrested for breach of the peace, for his own protection.
He was then introduced to a liaison officer who said he’d see what he could do to assist, would go and talk to the tribal elders or whatever they are called. Bike was gone the next day, never to be seen again.
Now my mate simply would not let this drop - put in lots of letters to Chief Constable and his MP etc. All responses very sympathetic but focused on danger to his person or to the officers.
He did write quite a sarcastic one near the end of this process - as I recall it was along the lines of: ‘so it’s okay if I steal a car and then threaten your officers if they come to arrest me, you’ll just leave me alone in those circumstances and won’t arrest me then? (Or something like that). The response was that they understood his frustration etc etc.
In the end his wife told him to stop it as he was wasting his time and had better things to do. She was right of course! This was a few years back now before all this Facebook nonsense and I guess now he could have made more of a fuss in the media?
You could be right. The increasing use of Facebook etc might be able to generate a significant backlash following any ridiculously blatant Traveller activities.No microlight or drone required as it could be seen in an encampment from a public highway.
“Too much trouble” said the Police “just run it through your insurance”.
My friend took this higher up and was told that firearms officers would have to attend any recovery and it could cause serious issues. My friend said this is just ridiculous I’ll go in and get it myself - was told if he attempted to do so he would be arrested for breach of the peace, for his own protection.
He was then introduced to a liaison officer who said he’d see what he could do to assist, would go and talk to the tribal elders or whatever they are called. Bike was gone the next day, never to be seen again.
Now my mate simply would not let this drop - put in lots of letters to Chief Constable and his MP etc. All responses very sympathetic but focused on danger to his person or to the officers.
He did write quite a sarcastic one near the end of this process - as I recall it was along the lines of: ‘so it’s okay if I steal a car and then threaten your officers if they come to arrest me, you’ll just leave me alone in those circumstances and won’t arrest me then? (Or something like that). The response was that they understood his frustration etc etc.
In the end his wife told him to stop it as he was wasting his time and had better things to do. She was right of course! This was a few years back now before all this Facebook nonsense and I guess now he could have made more of a fuss in the media?
Whatever happened about that massive Traveller community that caused so many problems - somewhere Essex way ?
Robertj21a said:
Whatever happened about that massive Traveller community that caused so many problems - somewhere Essex way ?
You mean Dale Farm? Evicted after a 10 year battlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Farm
But it looked like they were building version 2.0 down the road, Council try to stop them and then their spine vanishes when it comes to a Court injunction
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/833429/Travellers...
The linked articles raise urine to boiling point too
jdw100 said:
He was then introduced to a liaison officer who said he’d see what he could do to assist, would go and talk to the tribal elders or whatever they are called. Bike was gone the next day, never to be seen again.
Similar happened to a friend of mine who had his dog stolen. After searching, he found it and he could see the dog tied up to a caravan... but the Police did not want to enter the site. Eventually he met the 'gypsy liaison officer' who told him if he offered a reward, the dog might be found. He paid cash and got the dog back - the Police handled the cash.Wrong on multiple levels.
kowalski655 said:
Robertj21a said:
Whatever happened about that massive Traveller community that caused so many problems - somewhere Essex way ?
You mean Dale Farm? Evicted after a 10 year battlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Farm
But it looked like they were building version 2.0 down the road, Council try to stop them and then their spine vanishes when it comes to a Court injunction
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/833429/Travellers...
The linked articles raise urine to boiling point too
FiF said:
As it's a Fail link we need to add the caveat "If true" but seriously, what the actusl F?
Police REFUSE to enter travellers' site over safety fears http://dailym.ai/2ArRRvz
The Cambridgeshire Police have been utterly useless regarding travellers recently. They have set up on numerous car parks, parks, recreation grounds etc, with the usual attendant rise in petty crime, flytipping, intimidation of residents, untaxed vehicles, and the Police have done 3/5 of fPolice REFUSE to enter travellers' site over safety fears http://dailym.ai/2ArRRvz
k all.NDA said:
Similar happened to a friend of mine who had his dog stolen. After searching, he found it and he could see the dog tied up to a caravan... but the Police did not want to enter the site. Eventually he met the 'gypsy liaison officer' who told him if he offered a reward, the dog might be found. He paid cash and got the dog back - the Police handled the cash.
Wrong on multiple levels.
Absolutely disgusting. Wrong on multiple levels.
I know a chap who had a £12k Forklift nicked, it could be seen from the road in the gypo camp, Police refused to recover it but contacted the liaison officer, she said the b
d wanted £5k for it as it was "worth 7", in the end the chap I knew employed a security company who went in and forcefully recovered. Think it cost him about £2,500.b
ds had a 9t dumper and machine bucket off me a few months back, £17,500 Insurance claim. If I ever killed myself, I'd take out as many of them bds as I could first, men, women, kids all of them!Tuvra said:
NDA said:
Similar happened to a friend of mine who had his dog stolen. After searching, he found it and he could see the dog tied up to a caravan... but the Police did not want to enter the site. Eventually he met the 'gypsy liaison officer' who told him if he offered a reward, the dog might be found. He paid cash and got the dog back - the Police handled the cash.
Wrong on multiple levels.
Absolutely disgusting. Wrong on multiple levels.
I know a chap who had a £12k Forklift nicked, it could be seen from the road in the gypo camp, Police refused to recover it but contacted the liaison officer, she said the b
d wanted £5k for it as it was "worth 7", in the end the chap I knew employed a security company who went in and forcefully recovered. Think it cost him about £2,500.b
ds had a 9t dumper and machine bucket off me a few months back, £17,500 Insurance claim. If I ever killed myself, I'd take out as many of them bds as I could first, men, women, kids all of them!There really should be something. The police can be sued for all sorts of things, why not this?
Robertj21a said:
kowalski655 said:
Robertj21a said:
Whatever happened about that massive Traveller community that caused so many problems - somewhere Essex way ?
You mean Dale Farm? Evicted after a 10 year battlehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Farm
But it looked like they were building version 2.0 down the road, Council try to stop them and then their spine vanishes when it comes to a Court injunction
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/833429/Travellers...
The linked articles raise urine to boiling point too
s will see and follow me in, and once in they will never leave. Almost as annoying wrt Dale Farm were the protestors who trained down from Camden, Oxfordshire and Cambridge Uni. Napalm them too as far as I'm concerned.
Dale Farm is an embarrassment and the Police and Essex CC should hang their heads in shame that they are still allowing those scumbags to be in our county. We should drive them either in to the sea, or to Kent.
Storer said:
Every vehicle we get registration details for is not registered, taxed, insured or MOT'd but are still on the roads. With modern surveillance equipment it should be possible to gain evidence to at least confiscate and crush these vehicles.
But, where would someone go to confiscate the vehicle? With no registered address, it's just a case of looking around for it, and for traffic police to happen to drop on it when it's on the road.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff