Jobs that don't pay what they used to...

Jobs that don't pay what they used to...

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ChocolateFrog

25,908 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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deckster said:
Kermit power said:
My lad has just started doing a paper round. For his Sunday round he gets paid £7.

When I did a paper round in the mid Eighties, I was getting between £10-15 per round depending on the size of the round. In today's money, that's £30-£45 according to the Bank of England!
You absolutely certain of that? I was getting that much per week for six mornings, probably 40 papers a day, around '87-'90. Was I just being criminally underpaid?
Same although it was even less. 6 days a week around an hour and we got something along the lines of £4.50. That would have been around 1990-92. It certainly worked out to pence per hour and I once had my pride and joy Carrera bike stolen outside the newsagent, packed it in after that.

Paid better than pea picking though, which worked out around 30p per hour.

Looking back toiling away in a field for 12 hours as a 10 year old must have been very illegal.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Thursday 30th January 19:55

Steamer

13,887 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Printers. (maybe not in all cases)

I remember back in the early 90's there was a young lad rolling round town in a 205 Dimma while we were in a right collection of st heaps...

..he was on £20K+

I was speaking to a print operator recently that had lost his job, he was on the same as that after a 25 year career in print.

ChocolateFrog

25,908 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Thankyou4calling said:
I used to employ Gym Instructors 20 years ago on £15,000 per year.

Still pay the same now.
Either they're under 21 or working part time as that's below minimum wage.


oceanview

1,524 posts

133 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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M.E.P ??

Thankyou4calling

10,633 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
Either they're under 21 or working part time as that's below minimum wage.
Many are under 21 but a 35 hour week at NMW is less than £15,000 a year.

ChocolateFrog

25,908 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Thankyou4calling said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Either they're under 21 or working part time as that's below minimum wage.
Many are under 21 but a 35 hour week at NMW is less than £15,000 a year.
Part time then laugh we're not french.

Ari

19,356 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Photographers. Used to be a very skilled and subsequently well paid job. These days with auto focus, auto exposure, very clever in camera processing plus the fact that with digital cameras you can take hundreds of photos (and check them as you take them), it's far easier to get very good results so far more people are doing it and thus the fees have dropped considerably.

Spare tyre

9,733 posts

132 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I’m pretty sure my dad would have done a paper round before work on some of the rates you lot had!

Ari

19,356 posts

217 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Kermit power said:
When I did a paper round in the mid Eighties, I was getting between £10-15 per round depending on the size of the round. In today's money, that's £30-£45 according to the Bank of England!
£10-£15 for one round for one day? Are you absolutely sure..?

I was doing it in the 70s and early 80s, from memory we were getting £3-4 for a week of delivering papers!

ChocolateFrog

25,908 posts

175 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Ari said:
Kermit power said:
When I did a paper round in the mid Eighties, I was getting between £10-15 per round depending on the size of the round. In today's money, that's £30-£45 according to the Bank of England!
£10-£15 for one round for one day? Are you absolutely sure..?

I was doing it in the 70s and early 80s, from memory we were getting £3-4 for a week of delivering papers!
Glad it's not just me thinking I'm losing my memory.

condor

8,837 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I've been charging the same overnight rate for house sitting since 2010, also same charge for an hour dog walks for one dog.
It's very hard to charge a higher price when regular clients expect you to do the same as you always have done.
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New clients get charged more.

Steamer

13,887 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Ari said:
Photographers. Used to be a very skilled and subsequently well paid job. These days with auto focus, auto exposure, very clever in camera processing plus the fact that with digital cameras you can take hundreds of photos (and check them as you take them), it's far easier to get very good results so far more people are doing it and thus the fees have dropped considerably.
Until you add the word 'Wedding' to the job title!!

£1000 for a day.. a chat..a bit of editing and then a memory stick.

Dracoro

8,707 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Kermit power said:
When I did a paper round in the mid Eighties, I was getting between £10-15 per round depending on the size of the round.

Admittedly my round was around 45 papers, pretty much all of which were the Sunday Times or Telegraph
£15 / 45 is 33p per paper.

How much was the Sunday Times back then? 33p would be getting on for half the cost of the paper.

Equivalent now would be £2.70 for the Sunday times now, £1.30 * 45 is £58.50 for the round.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

83 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Ari said:
Photographers. Used to be a very skilled and subsequently well paid job. These days with auto focus, auto exposure, very clever in camera processing plus the fact that with digital cameras you can take hundreds of photos (and check them as you take them), it's far easier to get very good results so far more people are doing it and thus the fees have dropped considerably.
Couldn't be more wrong.

Jambo85

3,330 posts

90 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Steamer said:
Ari said:
Photographers. Used to be a very skilled and subsequently well paid job. These days with auto focus, auto exposure, very clever in camera processing plus the fact that with digital cameras you can take hundreds of photos (and check them as you take them), it's far easier to get very good results so far more people are doing it and thus the fees have dropped considerably.
Until you add the word 'Wedding' to the job title!!

£1000 for a day.. a chat..a bit of editing and then a memory stick.
£1000 would be cheap!

Uggers

2,223 posts

213 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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ChocolateFrog said:
Ari said:
Kermit power said:
When I did a paper round in the mid Eighties, I was getting between £10-15 per round depending on the size of the round. In today's money, that's £30-£45 according to the Bank of England!
£10-£15 for one round for one day? Are you absolutely sure..?

I was doing it in the 70s and early 80s, from memory we were getting £3-4 for a week of delivering papers!
Glad it's not just me thinking I'm losing my memory.
The OP maths don't add up to me.

Mid nineties Mon-Sat morning round of around 40ish addresses.
£8.50 a week.

Radio Times Tuesday was a killer.

Cardiff_Exile

338 posts

178 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Paperounds... Cardiff late 80s

Evening paper Mon - Fri maybe 35 over a 2 mile route around £5 a week, the weekly free paper (Cardiff post) 200 ish over a week £7.50 but I could knock that out in 2 hours. The Sunday papers was the lucrative one of but they were bulky and would be 3 sacks worth was £7 per Sunday for an hours work.

First 'job' in 1992 was 'trainee telesales' @ £3600 / PA. This was topped by being a cleaner at the local hospital, I took the grim work as it paid more and was 4 hours early Sunday morning at around £8/h as at that time it was considered double time on a Sunday. I still had the weekly round and the odd Sunday round into late teens as back then beer could be had for £1.30 / pint and 10 smokes for £1. A paper round covered a Friday on the lash at the local.

I also had a job delivering the 'property mail' about 30 drops at estate agents around Cardiff early 90s and jot £7.00 for fuel and £20 per week, that was an hour early doors before the day job.

Now, the local paperboy gets £10/week so double but a pint of beer is not £1 and back then I think fuel was 40p / l




scenario8

6,599 posts

181 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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SCEtoAUX said:
Ari said:
Photographers. Used to be a very skilled and subsequently well paid job. These days with auto focus, auto exposure, very clever in camera processing plus the fact that with digital cameras you can take hundreds of photos (and check them as you take them), it's far easier to get very good results so far more people are doing it and thus the fees have dropped considerably.
Couldn't be more wrong.
Could you expand, please?

I work (broadly speaking) in the estate agency business. The photographers we employ will be earning less today than they were a decade ago. I mean less in absolute numbers. That’s far far less than they would have been earning once inflation is taken into account.

Some of these guys supplement their incomes in football and chatting to one over Christmas he let on rates have fallen there too. I would imagine many professional photography posts have disappeared entirely.

I accept the word “photographer” can be applied across a whole host of sectors.

Please educate me. I’d love to help them out (the chaps at work, that is).

Phunk

1,978 posts

173 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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scenario8 said:
SCEtoAUX said:
Ari said:
Photographers. Used to be a very skilled and subsequently well paid job. These days with auto focus, auto exposure, very clever in camera processing plus the fact that with digital cameras you can take hundreds of photos (and check them as you take them), it's far easier to get very good results so far more people are doing it and thus the fees have dropped considerably.
Couldn't be more wrong.
Could you expand, please?

I work (broadly speaking) in the estate agency business. The photographers we employ will be earning less today than they were a decade ago. I mean less in absolute numbers. That’s far far less than they would have been earning once inflation is taken into account.

Some of these guys supplement their incomes in football and chatting to one over Christmas he let on rates have fallen there too. I would imagine many professional photography posts have disappeared entirely.

I accept the word “photographer” can be applied across a whole host of sectors.

Please educate me. I’d love to help them out (the chaps at work, that is).
I wouldn’t say that photography has gotten any easier, you still need to know how to expose, frame and direct who your photographing correctly. What has pushed down prices is the price of technology and the preference of convenience over quality. A lot more ‘this photographers are appearing with cheap DSLR’s learning photography off YouTube. The more photographers there are, the cheaper things get.

Brads67

3,199 posts

100 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Meter readers.