Why Shouldnt Prostitution Be State Sanctioned?

[elster]

BoRED S2upid said:

st_files said:

Defcon5 said:

WorAl said:

DownUnder. said:

Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....

Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?

But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems

Really? I'd love to see the research you base that statement on....absolute bks.

You have a lot of experience of prostitutes do you?

I would say the majority of hookers are on crack or stronger drugs.

So you are saying that they are the same as the majority of city workers?

[st_files]

G_T said:

st_files said:

IE men and women can pay for sex without fear of being arrested and two or more men/women can work in a property together without fear of arrest....

You can.

Escorts, massage palours, saunas and the back room of many a dodgey strip club cater for this sort of business. To the best of my knowledge it's also taxable as "you're paying for the time only".

I would hazard a guess that the only reason prostitution itself is not legal (but is regulated in some areas). Is because of the increased levels of risks for both girl and punter when compared to organised businesses.

So why bother "sanctioning it"? If you're into that sort of thing you have numerous legal options available to you. If you're still not happy with that you can even visit "regulated" areas where prostitutes operate and the police turn a blind eye.

If you keep things the way they are then the majority of the public won't even know that such seedy areas exist and the religious types can keep their heads down.

As I understand it its still illegal for more than one man/woman to be working (in the same dwelling) as prostitutes, at least thats the case in Soho - more than one and the Police can arrest everyone.

Edited by st_files on Friday 23 October 12:29

[Don]

rhinochopig said:

Because it would offend the imaginary friend club. And old people. And people who live near said brother because "they don't want THAT sort around here".

The issue is that it offends Harriet Harman and every last one of their ilk.

And they're in politics...

[Road Pest]

If you were arrested in a brothel would you be put on the sex offenders register? (not that I'm worried about this scenario)

[st_files]

BoRED S2upid said:

st_files said:

Defcon5 said:

WorAl said:

DownUnder. said:

Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....

Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?

But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems

Really? I'd love to see the research you base that statement on....absolute bks.

You have a lot of experience of prostitutes do you?

If I did I wouldnt be ashamed to admit it, but no I dont. But I have a couple of friends who use them (honest...!) and am not dim enough to believe what the daily mail feeds me.

Of course there are a number of prostitutes who are dug addicts - usually the Kings Cross street walker types - street walking would still be illegal under state sanctioning and women who were "desperate" for money would not have to risk their lives picking up serial killers in the dead of winter.

To say that the majority of prostitutes are drug addicts is utter rubbish. check this site out...

http://www.prostitutescollective.net/

The majority of working women/men are normal people who have chosen that way to make money. I'm sure a lot of them would like to be kitten collectors if the money was the same...but it isnt.

[Defcon5]

st_files said:

BoRED S2upid said:

st_files said:

Defcon5 said:

WorAl said:

DownUnder. said:

Prostitutes would not be allowed any STI's or drug problems i'm guessing....

Surely it wouldn't be a bad thing that someone flogging their clunge for money is free from aids?

But most prostitutes in this country have class A drug problems

Really? I'd love to see the research you base that statement on....absolute bks.

You have a lot of experience of prostitutes do you?

If I did I wouldnt be ashamed to admit it, but no I dont. But I have a couple of friends who use them (honest...!) and am not dim enough to believe what the daily mail feeds me.

Of course there are a number of prostitutes who are dug addicts - usually the Kings Cross street walker types - street walking would still be illegal under state sanctioning and women who were "desperate" for money would not have to risk their lives picking up serial killers in the dead of winter.

To say that the majority of prostitutes are drug addicts is utter rubbish. check this site out...

http://www.prostitutescollective.net/

The majority of working women/men are normal people who have chosen that way to make money. I'm sure a lot of them would like to be kitten collectors if the money was the same...but it isnt.

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldnt come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

[elster]

Defcon5 said:

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldn't come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

So you think the majority of Prostitutes are street walkers?

I think you will find that is a huge minority.

[Munter]

I have to say except for the STI risk I don't really see the difference between a prostitute rubbing a guys cock for pleasure, and a masseuse rubbing his shoulders for pleasure.

Now there is the STI risk and it's for that reason I think they should be licensed. E.g. the punter turns up at their pad and asks the girl for her card which has her photo the address which should match where he is and STI test "clear" date. And if she offers sex without protection he can call the cops and have her/him banged up for a month.

[HRG.]

Munter said:

I have to say except for the STI risk I don't really see the difference between a prostitute rubbing a guys cock for pleasure, and a masseuse rubbing his shoulders for pleasure.

Now there is the STI risk and it's for that reason I think they should be licensed. E.g. the punter turns up at their pad and asks the girl for her card which has her photo the address which should match where he is and STI test "clear" date. And if she offers sex without protection he can call the cops and have her/him banged up for a month.

And the spunk, don't forget the spunk.

[Caruso]

You wouldn't want prostitution sanctioned by the state, look at the state of the railways! Tired, clapped out rolling stock and services that come late or not at all.

[Defcon5]

elster said:

Defcon5 said:

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldn't come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

So you think the majority of Prostitutes are street walkers?

I think you will find that is a huge minority.

I can only speak from my own experience, obviously as outreach workers we wouldnt come across anyone other than street workers.

I am suprised that it isnt the case though, given how many street workers there are, there must be an awful lot of 'indoor' prostitutes

[Ahhh Moneypenny]

Do people really pay for it, have they never heard of the bar 'Chicagos'?

[elster]

Defcon5 said:

elster said:

Defcon5 said:

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldn't come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

So you think the majority of Prostitutes are street walkers?

I think you will find that is a huge minority.

I can only speak from my own experience, obviously as outreach workers we wouldnt come across anyone other than street workers.

I am surprised that it isn't the case though, given how many street workers there are, there must be an awful lot of 'indoor' prostitutes

I could probably list about 10-20 in York and about 50 in the outskirts of Leeds. These are just the ones I know of.

If I did some research probably find a lot more who work out of hotels.

[st_files]

Defcon5 said:

elster said:

Defcon5 said:

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldn't come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

So you think the majority of Prostitutes are street walkers?

I think you will find that is a huge minority.

I can only speak from my own experience, obviously as outreach workers we wouldnt come across anyone other than street workers.

I am suprised that it isnt the case though, given how many street workers there are, there must be an awful lot of 'indoor' prostitutes

I completely respect your experiences - just take a look at the personals section of any local newspaper as well as the thousands of escort sites to get an idea of how wide ranging prostitution is....yes, a tiny minority are drug addicts and yes a tiny minority have been forced into it but that would not be made easier by state control - only harder.....

Does anyone still think that prostitution is just "wrong" and should not be allowed?

[elster]

st_files said:

Defcon5 said:

elster said:

Defcon5 said:

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldn't come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

So you think the majority of Prostitutes are street walkers?

I think you will find that is a huge minority.

I can only speak from my own experience, obviously as outreach workers we wouldnt come across anyone other than street workers.

I am suprised that it isnt the case though, given how many street workers there are, there must be an awful lot of 'indoor' prostitutes

I completely respect your experiences - just take a look at the personals section of any local newspaper as well as the thousands of escort sites to get an idea of how wide ranging prostitution is....yes, a tiny minority are drug addicts and yes a tiny minority have been forced into it but that would not be made easier by state control - only harder.....

Does anyone still think that prostitution is just "wrong" and should not be allowed?

Look on adultwork, how many members are on there?

[Cara van man]

Ahhh Moneypenny said:

Do people really pay for it, have they never heard of the bar 'Chicagos'?

I met my wife in a 'Chicagos'.

You have a point though, ten years later and I'm still paying for it.

[Dogwatch]

Think it depends on the attitude of the local powers-that-be. One large South Coast resort town doesn't have any street walkers as far as I know (no, not from personal experience). They are all indoors and the authorities know where.

[tank slapper]

I don't think it should be state-sactioned, but people who choose to earn their living that way should be left along to do so without fear of prosecution, and that includes if they work individually or in a brothel/massage parlour or whatever.

Closed minded idealogical viewpoints like Harperson's are the worst sort, because they seek to impose their twisted form of morality on everyone else. By legalising prostitution you then disenfranchise the pimps and others who would force people to work against their will. What two consenting adults do between each other is simply none of the states business.

[st_files]

tank slapper said:

I don't think it should be state-sactioned, but people who choose to earn their living that way should be left along to do so without fear of prosecution, and that includes if they work individually or in a brothel/massage parlour or whatever.

Closed minded idealogical viewpoints like Harperson's are the worst sort, because they seek to impose their twisted form of morality on everyone else. By legalising prostitution you then disenfranchise the pimps and others who would force people to work against their will. What two consenting adults do between each other is simply none of the states business.

But why not have it controlled and policed by the state? If nothing else, think of the additional revenue the govt can waste on Speed cameras, quangos or duck houses.....

[rhinochopig]

Defcon5 said:

elster said:

Defcon5 said:

From my experience of working with multiple support agencies in Leeds, at least 90% of the prostitutes I have encountered has tested positive for class A. Obviously I wouldn't come into contact with 'escort' types, just street walkers.

So you think the majority of Prostitutes are street walkers?

I think you will find that is a huge minority.

I can only speak from my own experience, obviously as outreach workers we wouldnt come across anyone other than street workers.

I am suprised that it isnt the case though, given how many street workers there are, there must be an awful lot of 'indoor' prostitutes

Bukkake fan eh?