Accidentally not paying a bill in a restaurant...

Accidentally not paying a bill in a restaurant...

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DrTre

12,955 posts

233 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
Fair play to him, that's why he's senior.

johna

2,328 posts

171 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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illmonkey said:
Is it theft though? My understanding of the prices are they are a recommended price for the food, but if you are not happy to pay that, you pay what you think its worth. Any truth in that?
I have also read this. That if you don't pay nothing for your meal then it is theft and a matter for the police. But if you pay what you think the meal is worth then it becomes a civil matter.

Scrumper

318 posts

183 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Mastodon2 said:
the terrorism alert recording came on
Sorry to hijack the thread (as it were), but what's that? In England?

Edited by Scrumper on Friday 7th January 15:32

Cogcog

11,800 posts

236 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Soovy said:
AB said:
Soovy said:
I hope he is done for theft.

Scumbag.
Quite interesting if he was!

Chances?
Fairly good. There'll be someone in the company with a grudge. They'll tell the restaurant owner. He'll call the cops. He did it. So he'll get done!
Without the 'back story' of knowing the bill hadn't been pauid they could struggle to prove the dishonesty.

off_again

12,384 posts

235 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Did this once, pure accident and just didnt realise - neither did the staff! Popped back the next day and appologised and paid, everything was fine. They even booked a return visit for a few weeks later, though that was probably astute business sales rather than anything else.

hehe

And the food was great too!

captainzep

13,305 posts

193 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Tend to take the honesty line myself.

I'll never forget one family holiday however, when my Dad went to settle up with the hotel and spotted a few sizable items had been missed off the bill.

He subsequently co-ordinated a lightning family evacuation of the premises, pants hanging out of hurriedly packed suitcase style, walk-run exit. -Wheelspinning down the road.

Taita

7,625 posts

204 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Integrity. Go back.

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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A couple of years ago I left a pub without paying for the food. The following week I went back and told them about my mistake. They thanked me for my honesty and said that the meal was on the house. smile


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illmonkey

18,246 posts

199 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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captainzep said:
Tend to take the honesty line myself.

I'll never forget one family holiday however, when my Dad went to settle up with the hotel and spotted a few sizable items had been missed off the bill.

He subsequently co-ordinated a lightning family evacuation of the premises, pants hanging out of hurriedly packed suitcase style, walk-run exit. -Wheelspinning down the road.
Thats different. Its their responsibility to ensure everything is on the bill.

If I get presented a bill and its about what I thought I pay. I don't sit and tally everything up. Suppose I'd know if they'd missed a family meal off a hotel bill.

Piersman2

6,604 posts

200 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Based on the OP... £20 bonus for me smile

al1991

4,552 posts

181 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
I would tell the man in question I thought his behaviour is disgusting.

Mazdarese

21,020 posts

188 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
Senior or not, he's a . People chipped in as they thought they were contributing to a tip for the restaurant, not a round of drinks for everyone.

catso

14,798 posts

268 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I did this years ago. Me and the Wife had a nice meal at a small country pub/restaurant. We finished the meal and returned home at which point I realised that I hadn't paid anything so I called them to explain and told them I'd return the next day to pay, which I did. The owner thanked me for my honesty at which point we decided we might as well eat there again, so enjoyed another meal (which I paid for this time) and we all had a good laugh at my stupidity... silly


Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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DrTre said:
jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
Fair play to him, that's why he's senior.
If they paid the equivalent tip on the card and took the cash to pay for the round fair play. No real harm done and one would have thought they were senior enough to 'authorise' a tip being added to the bill paid.

if they took the money and paid only the bill (ie left no tip) then they have effectively stolen the money in my eyes, if not in the eyes of the law. That they used it to buy the rounds with is academic.

crofty1984

15,914 posts

205 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
as much as it's a horrid cliche on here, VBRJ. What a horrible thing to do. To all involved.

illmonkey

18,246 posts

199 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Rude-boy said:
DrTre said:
jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
Fair play to him, that's why he's senior.
If they paid the equivalent tip on the card and took the cash to pay for the round fair play. No real harm done and one would have thought they were senior enough to 'authorise' a tip being added to the bill paid.

if they took the money and paid only the bill (ie left no tip) then they have effectively stolen the money in my eyes, if not in the eyes of the law. That they used it to buy the rounds with is academic.
Sounds like a reasonable explanation.

Or did all of the employees mark their notes to prove he 'stole' the money? Even with that proof, he still could have either had his own cash and used that (so he had smaller notes at the bar) or paid the tip on his card.


Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

219 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I would go back to pay the bill, and have done on a couple of occasions in the past.

No point in the restaurant being out of pocket, and a member of staff gettiing their wages docked, or even sacked, to save a few quid.

Mastodon2

13,828 posts

166 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Scrumper said:
Mastodon2 said:
the terrorism alert recording came on
Sorry to hijack the thread (as it were), but what's that? In England?

Edited by Scrumper on Friday 7th January 15:32
Indeed it is, in one of those large complexes, the kind of which no longer have bins due to so many bomb scares back in the day and these days with the threat of Muslim terrorists they never bother putting bins in them anymore. Anyway, it's not the fire alarm (which I have heard in this particular building, went off when I was in a cinema there), it's just a generic alarm which says something to the effect of "Please leave the building immediately. Do not stop for your belongings", then the BiB turn up, search the building and then give it the all clear before letting everyone back in. It's just a generic message they play when they get the monthly bomb scare to avoid causing a panic.

ROOODBOY

3,780 posts

196 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Not so long ago i was given too much change for a pint in a local pub.

I pointed it out to the landlord, who apologised and gave me the correct amount.

The next time I went up for a pint it was on the house, and we both had a good day.

Honesty is the best policy, what goes around comes around...


illmonkey

18,246 posts

199 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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ROOODBOY said:
Not so long ago i was given too much change for a pint in a local pub.

I pointed it out to the landlord, who apologised and gave me the correct amount.

The next time I went up for a pint it was on the house, and we both had a good day.

Honesty is the best policy, what goes around comes around...
I'm overcharged every time I go to the pub. £4 a pint!