Legendary guns

[Ayahuasca]

The Oerlikon 'pom pom' AA gun

[Reidy10_0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDRa-tIhNpU

Beretta Extrema 2 is probably not a legendary gun but this clip is worth watching.

[Mojocvh]

Reidy10_0 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDRa-tIhNpU

Beretta Extrema 2 is probably not a legendary gun but this clip is worth watching.

Actually there are some problems that would remove any hope of "Legend".....

[Saddle bum]

Adam B said:

was there any WW2 gun that Allies produced that bettered Axis?

The Lee-Enfield was superior in every respect to the Gewehr 98. Shorter bolt movement, three rounds fired for every two of the G98, ten against five rounds in the magazine and superior terminal ballistics.

[Ayahuasca]

Saddle bum said:

Adam B said:

was there any WW2 gun that Allies produced that bettered Axis?

The Lee-Enfield was superior in every respect to the Gewehr 98. Shorter bolt movement, three rounds fired for every two of the G98, ten against five rounds in the magazine and superior terminal ballistics.

The LE's 'Superior terminal ballistics' were helped along by (allegedly) putting a bit of wood under the copper jacket in the nose of the bullet, so that it 'tumbled' when it splatted against the unlucky beneficiary of the good news. Ze Germans didn't like this.

[VetteG]

Ayahuasca said:

Saddle bum said:

Adam B said:

was there any WW2 gun that Allies produced that bettered Axis?

The Lee-Enfield was superior in every respect to the Gewehr 98. Shorter bolt movement, three rounds fired for every two of the G98, ten against five rounds in the magazine and superior terminal ballistics.

The LE's 'Superior terminal ballistics' were helped along by (allegedly) putting a bit of wood under the copper jacket in the nose of the bullet, so that it 'tumbled' when it splatted against the unlucky beneficiary of the good news. Ze Germans didn't like this.

Would this not have a serious impact on velocity and accuracy?

G

[goblinslayer]

Nope, in fact a lot of todays match bullets have a cavity in the nose to shift the centre of gravity back making them more stable in flight

Some of my enfields

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~goblin/PTRC/Gun%20...
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~goblin/PTRC/Gun%20...
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~goblin/PTRC/Gun%20...

VetteG said:

Ayahuasca said:

Saddle bum said:

Adam B said:

was there any WW2 gun that Allies produced that bettered Axis?

The Lee-Enfield was superior in every respect to the Gewehr 98. Shorter bolt movement, three rounds fired for every two of the G98, ten against five rounds in the magazine and superior terminal ballistics.

The LE's 'Superior terminal ballistics' were helped along by (allegedly) putting a bit of wood under the copper jacket in the nose of the bullet, so that it 'tumbled' when it splatted against the unlucky beneficiary of the good news. Ze Germans didn't like this.

Would this not have a serious impact on velocity and accuracy?

G

[ihatesissycars]

[Saddle bum]

goblinslayer said:

Some of my enfields

And some of mine

They are addictive...........

Just acquired a Enfield 1914 SMLE MarkIII. No pictures yet.

[goblinslayer]

They are indeed :-)
I'm jelous of your collection :-)

My Enforcer
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~goblin/PTRC/Gun%20...

Also got a 4T, and another 7 or so No4s, a M1917, and a 1914 SMLE MkIII no pics of them atm though..

Saddle bum said:

goblinslayer said:

Some of my enfields

And some of mine

They are addictive...........

Just acquired a Enfield 1914 SMLE MarkIII. No pictures yet.

[aclivity]

Saddle bum said:

aclivity said:

Saddle bum said:

aclivity said:

"Well…you gonna pull those pistols or whistle dixie?"

That's a Colt Walker. If it were any bigger, it would have to have wheels.

I have one.

The father of a girl I went out with years ago had a deactivated one. I borrowed it for a fancy dress party, on a waist holster it was banging off my knee.

I think it could be safely described as "not intended for quick draws".

Unless, of course, as alluded to earlier, you happen to be Josey Whales, who carried two of them!

this I knew:

Saddle bum said:

The Walker was never intended to worn on the hip in a holster. They were issued in pairs as "horse pistols", one each side, on the saddle, in front of the rider. Originally they were supposed to be fired left-handed, whilst the right hand wielded a sabre, the reins in the teeth.

but my fancy dress costume budget didn't run to a horse, or a sabre for that matter!

This I didn't know:

Saddle bum said:

I hope it was not an original Walker that was deacted. They are worth upwards of $250,000 each.

I'm fairly certain it was a reproduction, in fact I don't think it was actually deactivated, but made as a blank firing replica. The magazine was slightly offset front to back, so there was a vent to allow the gas to escape, but it would not have allowed a round through. I'm going back in my dark and dusty memory, I seem to recall it was made for 9mm blank cartridges.

[dinkel]

Reidy10_0 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDRa-tIhNpU

Beretta Extrema 2 is probably not a legendary gun but this clip is worth watching.

HF!!!

Oerlikon snaps, just for the sheer quality of it:







Top I started this topic . . .

I had a soft spot for guns when a kid. My town had a WW2 depot which was a treasure, King Tuts tumb for me.


Gatlings and small cannons on camelbacks: how awesome is that!?

[Engineer1]

Is this going to resurrect the Camel and Donkey of war??

[Los Palmas 7]

dinkel said:

I think they need to strengthen the axles on that one.

And what's going to happen when the rounds start coming back down again...?

Edited by Los Palmas 7 on Sunday 10th May 05:48

[Saddle bum]

Los Palmas 7 said:

And what's going to happen when the rounds start coming back down again...?

Most would precess over and come down miles away except they probably have been fitted with a self-destruct unit which will activate after a set time. If they go perfectly upwards they will come down base first until the SDU takes effect.

[Mexico.]

Dinkel nice shadow gun

[Ayahuasca]

Saddle bum said:

Los Palmas 7 said:

And what's going to happen when the rounds start coming back down again...?

Most would precess over and come down miles away except they probably have been fitted with a self-destruct unit which will activate after a set time. If they go perfectly upwards they will come down base first until the SDU takes effect.

Mythbusters did an episode on that.

[Nobody You Know]

Ayahuasca said:

Saddle bum said:

Los Palmas 7 said:

And what's going to happen when the rounds start coming back down again...?

Most would precess over and come down miles away except they probably have been fitted with a self-destruct unit which will activate after a set time. If they go perfectly upwards they will come down base first until the SDU takes effect.

Mythbusters did an episode on that.

Anyone got a link? Would like to see this episode.

[benoli]

Nobody You Know said:

Ayahuasca said:

Saddle bum said:

Los Palmas 7 said:

And what's going to happen when the rounds start coming back down again...?

Most would precess over and come down miles away except they probably have been fitted with a self-destruct unit which will activate after a set time. If they go perfectly upwards they will come down base first until the SDU takes effect.

Mythbusters did an episode on that.

Anyone got a link? Would like to see this episode.

don't have a link - but it was series 3
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50

[Saddle bum]

benoli said:

Nobody You Know said:

Ayahuasca said:

Saddle bum said:

Los Palmas 7 said:

And what's going to happen when the rounds start coming back down again...?

Most would precess over and come down miles away except they probably have been fitted with a self-destruct unit which will activate after a set time. If they go perfectly upwards they will come down base first until the SDU takes effect.

Mythbusters did an episode on that.

Anyone got a link? Would like to see this episode.

don't have a link - but it was series 3
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50

So when we fired shells vertically, tracked them back and dug them up for examination after they ploughed in base first - it was all a myth, was it?