Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]
Discussion
if you shout at someome and they have a heart attack and die, is it manslaughter?
eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go f
k himself. he keels over and dies.
swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go f
k himself. he keels over and dies.swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
coppernorks said:
Homeless people and dogs. WTF is going on ?
Why would someone already down on their luck with a history of pisspoor life decisions
burden themselves with another layer of responsibility, i.e, another mouth to feed ?
Ok, maybe companionship, but it seems to me the dog is getting the arse end of the deal,
the poor mutts always look bloody miserable, they have a life even crappier than their masters, poor diet,
limited access to veterinary treatment, no doggy pals except this sad human loser, non existent
daily dog walking regime, just sitting outside KFC or Santander all goddamn day.
I have a house and a job, yet I don't feel I'm up to giving a dog the healthy vibrant life a healthy
vibrant dog should expect.
Yes it's companionship, but I think your lack of understanding comes from not owning one and life is sadly quite often about comparison.Why would someone already down on their luck with a history of pisspoor life decisions
burden themselves with another layer of responsibility, i.e, another mouth to feed ?
Ok, maybe companionship, but it seems to me the dog is getting the arse end of the deal,
the poor mutts always look bloody miserable, they have a life even crappier than their masters, poor diet,
limited access to veterinary treatment, no doggy pals except this sad human loser, non existent
daily dog walking regime, just sitting outside KFC or Santander all goddamn day.
I have a house and a job, yet I don't feel I'm up to giving a dog the healthy vibrant life a healthy
vibrant dog should expect.
A living being can compare. If it has only a poor life, but nothing better to compare it with it will be happy.
Evoluzione said:
coppernorks said:
Homeless people and dogs. WTF is going on ?
Why would someone already down on their luck with a history of pisspoor life decisions
burden themselves with another layer of responsibility, i.e, another mouth to feed ?
Ok, maybe companionship, but it seems to me the dog is getting the arse end of the deal,
the poor mutts always look bloody miserable, they have a life even crappier than their masters, poor diet,
limited access to veterinary treatment, no doggy pals except this sad human loser, non existent
daily dog walking regime, just sitting outside KFC or Santander all goddamn day.
I have a house and a job, yet I don't feel I'm up to giving a dog the healthy vibrant life a healthy
vibrant dog should expect.
Yes it's companionship, but I think your lack of understanding comes from not owning one and life is sadly quite often about comparison.Why would someone already down on their luck with a history of pisspoor life decisions
burden themselves with another layer of responsibility, i.e, another mouth to feed ?
Ok, maybe companionship, but it seems to me the dog is getting the arse end of the deal,
the poor mutts always look bloody miserable, they have a life even crappier than their masters, poor diet,
limited access to veterinary treatment, no doggy pals except this sad human loser, non existent
daily dog walking regime, just sitting outside KFC or Santander all goddamn day.
I have a house and a job, yet I don't feel I'm up to giving a dog the healthy vibrant life a healthy
vibrant dog should expect.
A living being can compare. If it has only a poor life, but nothing better to compare it with it will be happy.
Psycho Warren said:
if you shout at someome and they have a heart attack and die, is it manslaughter?
eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go fk himself. he keels over and dies.
swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
Manslaughter is death caused by an illegal act. So shouting (in itself) no. To count as assault the busybody has to anticipate violence. How you determine whether the act caused the death I don't know.eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go f
k himself. he keels over and dies.swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
Psycho Warren said:
if you shout at someome and they have a heart attack and die, is it manslaughter?
eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go fk himself. he keels over and dies.
swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
Sounds like you "caused the trouble", not the "old busybody".eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go f
k himself. he keels over and dies.swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
Dr Jekyll said:
Psycho Warren said:
if you shout at someome and they have a heart attack and die, is it manslaughter?
eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go fk himself. he keels over and dies.
swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
Manslaughter is death caused by an illegal act. So shouting (in itself) no. To count as assault the busybody has to anticipate violence. How you determine whether the act caused the death I don't know.eg old busybody causes trouble on your street, you fall out and end up telling him to go f
k himself. he keels over and dies.swearing can constitute an assault, so an assault that causes a death accidentally would be manaughter? correct? or not that simple?
Plenty of cases where some old biddy gets mugged and pushed to the ground, goes to hospital and dies a few days later from the shock of it all (rather than the physical effects of being shoved and hitting the ground). The scumbag would only be done for the mugging.
Things i'd like to know the answer to:
You know how builders insist on turning up at 7am but then bugger off at mid-day, and in the process make so much noise that they wake neighbours etc, which suggests they have no empathy and literally just dont give a fk about anyone. So i guess my question is, are builders born this way, or does the job make them s along the way?
You know how builders insist on turning up at 7am but then bugger off at mid-day, and in the process make so much noise that they wake neighbours etc, which suggests they have no empathy and literally just dont give a f
k about anyone. So i guess my question is, are builders born this way, or does the job make them s along the way?Doofus said:
If the international language of air flight is English, and the international language of seafaring is English, why is the international language of space travel Russian?
I thought the international language of space travel was either Klingon or Zorgon, depending on which sector you were coasting through after warping? 
( Sorry I'm late, I've just been catching up.)
Nimby said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Manslaughter is death caused by an illegal act. So shouting (in itself) no...
What if you sound your car horn while stopped (illegal) and cause a fatal heart attack?Just because an illegal act resulted in a death, does not automatically make that act responsible. For an action causing death through negligence, the person has to have an understanding that their actions could cause death.
A heart attack bought on by external stimuli is rarely the fault of the stimuli, usually there is an underlying condition at fault that you could not have reasonably known about (assuming the scenario is some random on the street, not your a
hole grandad you know has a bum ticker).glenrobbo said:
Doofus said:
If the international language of air flight is English, and the international language of seafaring is English, why is the international language of space travel Russian?
I thought the international language of space travel was either Klingon or Zorgon, depending on which sector you were coasting through after warping? ( Sorry I'm late, I've just been catching up.)
V8mate said:
Has to be linked causation though.
Plenty of cases where some old biddy gets mugged and pushed to the ground, goes to hospital and dies a few days later from the shock of it all (rather than the physical effects of being shoved and hitting the ground). The scumbag would only be done for the mugging.
Ive seen plenty the opposite when i was googling the answer, robber pushes old biddy over, she has heart attack in near future and he gets done for manslaughter. So it doesnt seem that clear cut.Plenty of cases where some old biddy gets mugged and pushed to the ground, goes to hospital and dies a few days later from the shock of it all (rather than the physical effects of being shoved and hitting the ground). The scumbag would only be done for the mugging.
bmwmike said:
Things i'd like to know the answer to:
You know how builders insist on turning up at 7am but then bugger off at mid-day, and in the process make so much noise that they wake neighbours etc, which suggests they have no empathy and literally just dont give a fk about anyone. So i guess my question is, are builders born this way, or does the job make them s along the way?
You could ask the same of binmen. I knew one once, thought nothing of dragging the rest of the crew out at the crack of dawn so he could finish early. I think it was learned behaviour, as he was a cu*t before he became a binman.You know how builders insist on turning up at 7am but then bugger off at mid-day, and in the process make so much noise that they wake neighbours etc, which suggests they have no empathy and literally just dont give a f
k about anyone. So i guess my question is, are builders born this way, or does the job make them s along the way?captain_cynic said:
No. As mentioned by another poster, there has to be a causal link.
Just because an illegal act resulted in a death, does not automatically make that act responsible. For an action causing death through negligence, the person has to have an understanding that their actions could cause death.
A heart attack bought on by external stimuli is rarely the fault of the stimuli, usually there is an underlying condition at fault that you could not have reasonably known about (assuming the scenario is some random on the street, not your ahole grandad you know has a bum ticker).
so if you knew he had a heart condition and verbally abused him that would count?Just because an illegal act resulted in a death, does not automatically make that act responsible. For an action causing death through negligence, the person has to have an understanding that their actions could cause death.
A heart attack bought on by external stimuli is rarely the fault of the stimuli, usually there is an underlying condition at fault that you could not have reasonably known about (assuming the scenario is some random on the street, not your a
hole grandad you know has a bum ticker).What if you were very selective with your words to avoid swear words and just wound him up with clever language? Clearly it would not be an assault as the words you have used preclude that, its just a confrontational conversation.
I have a question about stolen art.
Specifically, people who 'obtain' (or steal to order) famous art - what do they do with it? Presumably they aren't displaying it anywhere (for obvious reasons), and they can't sell it (legally anyway).
So are these pieces simply locked away, never to see the light of day simply because they 'want' it?
Specifically, people who 'obtain' (or steal to order) famous art - what do they do with it? Presumably they aren't displaying it anywhere (for obvious reasons), and they can't sell it (legally anyway).
So are these pieces simply locked away, never to see the light of day simply because they 'want' it?
Big Nanas said:
I have a question about stolen art.
Specifically, people who 'obtain' (or steal to order) famous art - what do they do with it? Presumably they aren't displaying it anywhere (for obvious reasons), and they can't sell it (legally anyway).
So are these pieces simply locked away, never to see the light of day simply because they 'want' it?
I listened to this the other day, while walking the dog. Some interesting insights into stolen artworks, including the fact that art is apparently almost never 'stolen to order'.Specifically, people who 'obtain' (or steal to order) famous art - what do they do with it? Presumably they aren't displaying it anywhere (for obvious reasons), and they can't sell it (legally anyway).
So are these pieces simply locked away, never to see the light of day simply because they 'want' it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b065rlrt
I know I haven't answered your question, but I thought it the timing was apposite.
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