Pit Bull attack, what would you do ?
Discussion
durbster said:
Very interesting Autopilot, thanks.
What do you reckon about chucking a heavy blanket or duvet over it and using that to pin it down and offer some protection? Since these things happen in the home that might be more likely to be available than a machete.
Get it a hot water bottle and a mug of Cocoa as well What do you reckon about chucking a heavy blanket or duvet over it and using that to pin it down and offer some protection? Since these things happen in the home that might be more likely to be available than a machete.
But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
ehonda said:
R8VXF said:
New laws coming in this year require id chipping, and no I wouldn't mind licencing if it meant repealing the DDA so that I could own a Pitbull!
Have a look at the breeds on the last ten years on this list.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in...
If you believed those figures would you still want to own a pitbull?
ehonda said:
R8VXF said:
Yes. It is something I have actually researched very heavily. Apart from size, there is actually virtually no difference in temperament between a staffie and a pit bull.
Well, size and the number of people they maul to death every year.R8VXF said:
A biased media, the most popular dog in the USA and lumping together more than one breed under the term Pitbull gives a very skewed view of the real story unfortunately. You are statistically more likely to die in the USA of drowning in a 5 gallon container of water than you are of being mauled to death by a dog of any description, let alone a "pitbull".
I'm sure that's very consoling to the relatives of those who were torn to pieces.ehonda said:
R8VXF said:
A biased media, the most popular dog in the USA and lumping together more than one breed under the term Pitbull gives a very skewed view of the real story unfortunately. You are statistically more likely to die in the USA of drowning in a 5 gallon container of water than you are of being mauled to death by a dog of any description, let alone a "pitbull".
I'm sure that's very consoling to the relatives of those who were torn to pieces.ehonda said:
R8VXF said:
New laws coming in this year require id chipping, and no I wouldn't mind licencing if it meant repealing the DDA so that I could own a Pitbull!
Have a look at the breeds on the last ten years on this list.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in...
If you believed those figures would you still want to own a pitbull?
Also, the fatalities are generally small kids, older people and women, adult males seem to feature much less.
I wouldnt want any of the neighbours owning a Pitbull, unlikely in Cheshire but that is a bit of a liability for other people pets and kids in the vicinity, I can see why they are banned though I still think a lot of it is the demographic.
durbster said:
Very interesting Autopilot, thanks.
What do you reckon about chucking a heavy blanket or duvet over it and using that to pin it down and offer some protection? Since these things happen in the home that might be more likely to be available than a machete.
I'd never thought about that, but ultimately I'd say it would be worth a go if you could get the blanket over the dog. While a dogs teeth is the most dangerous part, they also have seriously powerful limbs, so if you were to lay on top of one, wrap your arms around it and hang on for dear life, the dog would probably be able to struggle free and the claws would bloody hurt! If you could restrict the dogs movement you'd definitely have a better chance of restraining it in the same fashion as a straight jacket.What do you reckon about chucking a heavy blanket or duvet over it and using that to pin it down and offer some protection? Since these things happen in the home that might be more likely to be available than a machete.
Bull breeds don't tend to do very well in sport or security roles as they don't typically do a full bite and kind of keep releasing and re-biting down. While this makes them less affective in sport / security, it does of course make them the worst kind of dog for hanging off your arm. A Mallinois / Sheperd / Dobermann etc will get a full bite and not let go, so in theory (appreciate this wouldn't really be the case as they'd shake their head around and do all sorts of damage) you'd have one set of punctures. A bull breed would probably do more damage as you'd get more and more puncture wounds. Despite these dogs being thought of as having a 'locking jaw' and I don't know if they have or not, they typically fail in sport / security as they actually do the opposite, they really seem to like letting go and then biting again.
R8VXF said:
What has that got to do with anything? Your arguments are not rationally based, so I am calling you out as a timewasting troll and will not be responding to anymore of your inept attempts at debating the matter at hand.
You bring up deaths in buckets of water and question the relevance of what I post, amazing. You've perfectly demonstrated why we need BSL, it's as much to protect us from morons as it is from dangerous dogs.
A tired dog is a happy dog is a well behaved dog. Only ever get a dog that you can exercise enough to keep it tired at home. This is the current reason I do not have my own dog, because I am out of the house 12 hours a day and cannot get home at lunchtime. As soon as I can get a job closer to home, I will be getting a dog.
ash73 said:
I don't think it would make much difference unless there was an adequate training element. A friend of mine has a dog which looks like a mini Rottweiler, she did tell me the breed but I forget, and she makes every mistake in the book. It's bitten both her kids, and her sister's kid; if it was my dog it would have been destroyed immediately but she just says "it has issues". She's taken it to training expecting them to "fix the dog", I pointed her towards Cesar Milan to show why that's the wrong mindset, but she thinks it's cruel to discipline a dog by touching it(!). I also suggested indemnity insurance might be a good idea and she scoffed, at which point I decided to have nothing more to do with it.
Looking at the pictures on this thread I cringe when I think of other people's kids going round to her house. Most dog owners don't seem to have a f
king clue how much of a liability their lovable little parasite actually is.
My missus has said to me if the dog bites anyone (other than playing) then its a short sharp trip to the vets, so that means he doesnt get left with kids unsupervised, worst he has done was dry hump my nephew, my brother was watching and said "I suppose I should stop it but its just too funny", trouble is people get very attached to dogs but miss the bit about avoiding them biting then when they do, they cant do the decent thing. Looking at the pictures on this thread I cringe when I think of other people's kids going round to her house. Most dog owners don't seem to have a f
king clue how much of a liability their lovable little parasite actually is.Our old dog never bit anyone in 15 years, only time she ever growled at anyone was one of the kids friends who was tormenting and hurting her, to her credit she didnt react, at that point we learnt to keep kids away from the dog as much as the other way round, some can be evil little s
ts who think its fun to torture animals, then the dog either has to put up with it as if they react they cop for it.I dont think people get the fifteen year responsibility thing, a dog is a massive commitment, and people get them in inappropriate circumstances for the wrong reasons, every puppy is cute and adorable.
J4CKO said:
Get it a hot water bottle and a mug of Cocoa as well
But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
Chocolate can apparently be deadly for dogs, so if offering to make it a nice poisonous Chocolate drink stops it eating your face then I'd say get the kettle on! But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
Autopilot said:
J4CKO said:
Get it a hot water bottle and a mug of Cocoa as well
But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
Chocolate can apparently be deadly for dogs, so if offering to make it a nice poisonous Chocolate drink stops it eating your face then I'd say get the kettle on! But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
J4CKO said:
Thats is true, I am going to carry a bar of Bournville in case of being attacked by a dog, that said, have heard about dogs eating vast amounts of confectionary and surviving, like the one where a fairly big dog nailed an entire tub of Quality Street including wrappers, with no ill effects apart from very sparkly, festive turds.
I think quality street is probably safe on account of the brown fatty stuff in it bearing only a distant relationship to chocolate.J4CKO said:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...
Not sure on this one, how do you detach a rather large and powerful dog from a persons arm ?
its probably been mentioned but the best thing to do is shove a finger or 2 up the biting dogs backside.Not sure on this one, how do you detach a rather large and powerful dog from a persons arm ?
Autopilot said:
Chocolate can apparently be deadly for dogs, so if offering to make it a nice poisonous Chocolate drink stops it eating your face then I'd say get the kettle on!
Deadly for humans as well. Eat 25lbs of it and you'l die. irocfan said:
just out of curiosity for the dog owners... licences, yay or no? It strikes me as a win/win situation as fkwits likely wouldn't be bothered thereby leading to the perception of more responsible owners
A yay from me. kwits likely wouldn't be bothered thereby leading to the perception of more responsible owners J4CKO said:
Autopilot said:
J4CKO said:
Get it a hot water bottle and a mug of Cocoa as well
But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
Chocolate can apparently be deadly for dogs, so if offering to make it a nice poisonous Chocolate drink stops it eating your face then I'd say get the kettle on! But I guess it might help I suppose to disorient it, ours will play bite through a blanket though.
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