Does anyone believe supernatural rubbish?

Does anyone believe supernatural rubbish?

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Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I've answered them.

People don't like to talk about their experiences, so many remain hidden.
No you haven't. I asked, quite explicitly, why you believe you've encountered these amazingly rare events multiple times and whether it was a belief that you're more sensitive to them or because of a possible mental illness.

You can't say suggest there's 7.49999999Bn people on the planet who experience these things and then don't talk about them for fear of ridicule. That'd be a bigger leap than anything else mentioned on this thread.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I love how the sceptics have to dissect every little detail into a hundred pieces.

You must have major time on your hands.

Relax a bit. smile

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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I love how the sceptics have to dissect every little detail into a hundred pieces.

You must have major time on your hands.

Relax a bit. smile
It's not a tiny little detail, it's a pretty major and very relevant pair of questions... which you're not answering.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rawwr said:
No you haven't. I asked, quite explicitly, why you believe you've encountered these amazingly rare events multiple times and whether it was a belief that you're more sensitive to them or because of a possible mental illness.

You can't say suggest there's 7.49999999Bn people on the planet who experience these things and then don't talk about them for fear of ridicule. That'd be a bigger leap than anything else mentioned on this thread.
Ah, apologies. I'm getting hit from all angles here, so I missed this bit.

Maybe I am sensitive to this 'kind of thing'. I certainly don't go looking for it. Saying that, nothing out of the ordinary has happened for the last couple of years.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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And any concern that it may be mental illness?

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Nanook said:
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Has anyone ever blown on you (please no tedious blow-job jokes)?
Of course.

Would you answer the question though please. When someone has blown on me in the past, I've known it was 'exhaled air' because I've seen the person do it.

I've also felt warm and moist air on my arm when I've been operating machinery, opening the oven, or a whole host of other things.

Unless I'm mistaken, and it's actually my oven ghost that's blowing on me every time I make a pizza.
That's just it. It felt like it was coming from someone stood maybe a foot and a half away, but I was looking at thin air as it happened.

It was pretty amazing, and scary as I've previously said.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rawwr said:
And any concern that it may be mental illness?
No. None at all.

Front bottom

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Thursday 11th May 2017
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Nanook said:
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That's just it. It felt like it was coming from someone stood maybe a foot and a half away, but I was looking at thin air as it happened.

It was pretty amazing, and scary as I've previously said.
Right, but there was no-one there.

So your conclusion was that it was a ghost. Not any of the other rational explanations, such as a simple draught from somewhere. It was a ghost.

Can I ask what you do for a living?
Absolutely not a draught. Definitely targeted blow.

I work on the railway, maintenance and renewals.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,690 posts

152 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Maybe I am sensitive to this 'kind of thing'.
V6Uplift or whatever will be along in a minute to tell us you have the recessive gene. rofl

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rawwr said:
And any concern that it may be mental illness?
No. None at all.
Don't you find it a little extraordinary that you would rule out mental illness in favour of the supernatural?

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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At no point have I mentioned the term 'ghost'. That's a black and white term that sceptics use.

I don't think it's as simple as that. I think there's definitely something out there which we're not meant to really understand, but it may cross our paths occasionally.

This is based on what I have experienced.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rawwr said:
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Rawwr said:
And any concern that it may be mental illness?
No. None at all.
Don't you find it a little extraordinary that you would rule out mental illness in favour of the supernatural?
Not really, no.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Extraordinary.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rawwr said:
Extraordinary.
Thinking outside the box usually is. wink

LocoCoco

1,428 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rawwr said:
Front bottom said:
Rawwr said:
And any concern that it may be mental illness?
No. None at all.
Don't you find it a little extraordinary that you would rule out mental illness in favour of the supernatural?
Not really, no.
This is what I was trying to get at. It's easy to see why somebody would rather attribute things like this to the supernatural instead of considering that they may have something wrong/different going on in their brain.

Would you rather be privy to something amazing that only a few people in the world have experienced or mentally ill/different?




SilverSixer

8,202 posts

153 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Nanook said:
Front bottom said:
Has anyone ever blown on you (please no tedious blow-job jokes)?
Of course.

Would you answer the question though please. When someone has blown on me in the past, I've known it was 'exhaled air' because I've seen the person do it.

I've also felt warm and moist air on my arm when I've been operating machinery, opening the oven, or a whole host of other things.

Unless I'm mistaken, and it's actually my oven ghost that's blowing on me every time I make a pizza.
That's just it. It felt like it was coming from someone stood maybe a foot and a half away, but I was looking at thin air as it happened.

It was pretty amazing, and scary as I've previously said.
You are made of matter. Anything supernatural is, by definition, not made of matter. Matter, so far as it is possible to understand, can only interact with other matter. Therefore, anything supernatural can not interact with the matter of which we are made in any way.

If you feel a sensation on your skin, akin to a draught, but can not see where that movement of air could possibly be coming from, then the explanation is that your sensory systems were momentarily 'glitching' and giving you a false experience.

Nothing whatsoever needs the presence of supernatural things in order for them to be explained.

People want to believe there are supernatural things, and that's fine. There may even be supernatural things, I could not possibly prove there are not, because I too am made of matter and therefore can not interact with anything supernatural. But, by definition, we would never be able to detect them under any circumstances. All claimed experiences of the supernatural are false positives.

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Can I say this for the final time?

It wasn't a draught.

I felt the individual puffs of air dissipate on my forearm, exactly as exhaled air feels when someone blows on you, it was also fairly warm, just like human breath when it's travelled a foot or so through the air.


As for mental illness, I've never had cause to think this. My job is a skilled, safety critical role. Nothing has ever given me or others (apart from PHers) any cause for concern.

RizzoTheRat

25,331 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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SilverSixer said:
You are made of matter. Anything supernatural is, by definition, not made of matter. Matter, so far as it is possible to understand, can only interact with other matter. Therefore, anything supernatural can not interact with the matter of which we are made in any way.

If you feel a sensation on your skin, akin to a draught, but can not see where that movement of air could possibly be coming from, then the explanation is that your sensory systems were momentarily 'glitching' and giving you a false experience.
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Is magnetism matter? Is gravity?

Not that I disagree with your second point biggrin

Rollin

6,124 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Can I say this for the final time?

It wasn't a draught.

I felt the individual puffs of air dissipate on my forearm, exactly as exhaled air feels when someone blows on you, it was also fairly warm, just like human breath when it's travelled a foot or so through the air.


As for mental illness, I've never had cause to think this. My job is a skilled, safety critical role. Nothing has ever given me or others (apart from PHers) any cause for concern.
It was the bass port on your speakers

Front bottom

5,648 posts

192 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Rollin said:
It was the bass port on your speakers
I wasn't listening to d&b though. wink

Seriously though, when I got the first blow on my elbow, I switched the music off and went 'investigating'.