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S11Steve

6,375 posts

186 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Greshamst said:
You're complaining as a white male (I'm presuming you are a white male) that BME students who don't get into certain universities just aren't smart enough. But as a white male you've undoubtedly been given better access to education, support and societal benefits than a BME student. The odds are stacked against them in many many avenues of their lives, whilst working in your favour throughout life.

You are in a position of privilege and making the common misconception that it is a level playing field, when it is not. It is difficult to argue for meritocracy as a benefit to society when society is so unequal.
With no corrective measures in place, like giving BME students a helping hand, access to higher education and higher parts of society will continue to be run by white males who will promote and hire other white males whilst blaming BME for just not being smart enough.

In other words saying white straight working uk males are persecuted, is like a lottery winner complaining they have to pay income tax. Life might be a little bit hard, but it's a lot harder for those that didn't win the race/gene lottery.
Surely traveller men must enjoy/endure this "white male privilege" too?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

255 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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S11Steve said:
Surely traveller men must enjoy/endure this "white male privilege" too?
They might, but you have to apply for it, and they can't write.

S11Steve

6,375 posts

186 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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I'm beginning to think that "straight white males" are now a persecuted section of society.
Everybody seems to think they are to blame for everything.

tleefox

1,110 posts

150 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Prizam said:
In reality, only means one thing. It's the white, straight, working, UK male who is being persecuted.
Billy Connolly joked about this, probably 20-odd years ago. He was right then and he is even more right now.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Prizam said:
I watched an old Tom and Jerry cartoon the other day, A scene where a black lady was up on a stool screaming because of the mouse, Jerry. I couldn't help thinking that it wouldn't be allowed today. But why? Once the political correctness bit, that's been hammered into all of us subsides; and you analyse it. There isn't anything wrong with it.
What? Wouldn't be allowed today? But you were ACTUALLY WATCHING IT hence it IS allowed today. Unless you are going to pretend you were watching it in some kind of underground back street illegal cinema for old racist cat 'n' mouse cartoons?

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

138 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Greshamst said:
You're complaining as a white male (I'm presuming you are a white male) that BME students who don't get into certain universities just aren't smart enough. But as a white male you've undoubtedly been given better access to education, support and societal benefits than a BME student. The odds are stacked against them in many many avenues of their lives, whilst working in your favour throughout life.

You are in a position of privilege and making the common misconception that it is a level playing field, when it is not. It is difficult to argue for meritocracy as a benefit to society when society is so unequal.
With no corrective measures in place, like giving BME students a helping hand, access to higher education and higher parts of society will continue to be run by white males who will promote and hire other white males whilst blaming BME for just not being smart enough.

In other words saying white straight working uk males are persecuted, is like a lottery winner complaining they have to pay income tax. Life might be a little bit hard, but it's a lot harder for those that didn't win the race/gene lottery.
Your argument is flawed. If only because plenty of people from some 'minority ethnic' groups get into top universities, companies and professions with high levels of representation. But apparently because you think your chosen group doesn't you're happy to trot out the weak and grossly racist meme of 'white privilege'.

It's not like the argument even holds up when you look nationally. Being BME seems to be much less of a problem in the counties than it does when your vision is narrowed down to stty bits of London or wherever.

People should be embarrassed to trot this crap out.



I really should stop poking the professionally offended and helping them derail the thread.



Wiccan of Darkness

1,850 posts

85 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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blindswelledrat said:
Prizam said:
I watched an old Tom and Jerry cartoon the other day, A scene where a black lady was up on a stool screaming because of the mouse, Jerry. I couldn't help thinking that it wouldn't be allowed today. But why? Once the political correctness bit, that's been hammered into all of us subsides; and you analyse it. There isn't anything wrong with it.
What? Wouldn't be allowed today? But you were ACTUALLY WATCHING IT hence it IS allowed today. Unless you are going to pretend you were watching it in some kind of underground back street illegal cinema for old racist cat 'n' mouse cartoons?
You have to watch the old T&J cartoons under a large napkin. If anyone asks - you're eating an ortolan. Then the professionally offended brigade leave you alone to be savaged by PETA.



The Crack Fox said:
As a white, straight, working class UK male, I can say I've never felt persecuted. I'm going to try being a brown, homosexual, middle class woman all weekend and will report back with my findings on Monday.
Let me guess....

On monday The Crack Fox said:
Techiedave was all over me like a rash.
I'll send you some aloe vera......

Saleen836

11,168 posts

211 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...

kowalski655

14,727 posts

145 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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biggrinbiggrin
Very funny but I cant see it lasting long if the professionally offended see it

irocfan

40,861 posts

192 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Saleen836 said:
Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...
Lucky he doesn't live in Scotland....

Laurel Green

30,800 posts

234 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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Saleen836 said:
Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...
Excellent! clap

poo at Paul's

14,218 posts

177 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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toastybase said:
You have to learn a number of tricks
Two dogs tied together...….?

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

83 months

Friday 18th May 2018
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S11Steve said:
I'm beginning to think that "straight white males" are now a persecuted section of society.
Everybody seems to think they are to blame for everything.
Been this way for 20 years in my opinion.

Robertj21a

16,534 posts

107 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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SCEtoAUX said:
S11Steve said:
I'm beginning to think that "straight white males" are now a persecuted section of society.
Everybody seems to think they are to blame for everything.
Been this way for 20 years in my opinion.
Yes, and it seems that the proportion left is diminishing all the time.

rossub

4,550 posts

192 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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Saleen836 said:
Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

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https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...
Absolutely hilarious, hope it lasts a while laugh

rossub

4,550 posts

192 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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irocfan said:
Saleen836 said:
Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...
Lucky he doesn't live in Scotland....
Don’t understand the Scotland reference?

Slyjoe

1,511 posts

213 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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rossub said:
irocfan said:
Saleen836 said:
Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...
Lucky he doesn't live in Scotland....
Don’t understand the Scotland reference?
Look up Count Dankulas prosecution for 'Hate speech' it's all about context, or not.

irocfan

40,861 posts

192 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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rossub said:
irocfan said:
Saleen836 said:
Appologies for the FB link but.. roflrofl

NSFW

https://www.facebook.com/aden.djvibe/videos/102099...
Lucky he doesn't live in Scotland....
Don’t understand the Scotland reference?
I was thinking about nazi pugs and Count Dankula

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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anonymous said:
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No they aren't all like that, it's only a minority. You are a bigot, stereotyping them like that. Etc.

andymc

7,373 posts

209 months

Saturday 19th May 2018
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markcoznottz said:
anonymous said:
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No they aren't all like that, it's only a minority. You are a bigot, stereotyping them like that. Etc.
what a load of tripe, I have been out for the day with the wife into the countryside, what do we see? Hordes of them "trotting" with vans to the front and the back, no care for traffic or rules, we stop off for a bite to eat and more of them are there in the cafe arguing about paying for their food, he's not a bigot, he speaks as he finds like the rest of us, lawless st bags who can fk off back to Ireland

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