Andrew Tate - The Real World
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Armitage.Shanks said:
For this pair there's no such thing as bad publicity. This will be a massive income generator to them from all their followers across various platforms I suspect 
Quite. He will have spent his time in the Romanian jail working out how to monetise this situation. One wonders whether there is enough evidence to actually put him and his brother away for any length of time. The fact that he is being recalled over here doesn't mean that there is going to be a successful prosecution, obviously. It may just add to the drama that he subsequently leverages.
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
It's been a long time since I've been at school, but I am pretty sure that even at that age I would have been able to quickly establish that this fellow is not strong at all, but is a total wQuel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
kpuffin.ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
No. This is just buying into the social media hype with his money, cars, women, private jets etc..Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
Real or not, it’s immaterial, it’s all about the outward perception forced across social media that appeals to the immature and unintelligent.
ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
These aren't "strong males" they have some deeply disturbing views of women and they're under repeated investigation around allegations of rape and human trafficking.Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
If that's your definition of a "strong male" you need to find some standards and get yourself some better role models.
They're human garbage.
Louis Balfour said:
I did, once. I haven't the time or inclination to revisit them. I don't recall many people supporting Tate. I do recall a number being accused of doing so, because they refused to join the froth-fest.
You're telling on yourself with these posts."Refuse to join the froth-fest"
What does that mean? Unpack it for us? Can you?
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: These aren't "strong males" they have some deeply disturbing views of women and they're under repeated investigation around allegations of rape and human trafficking.
If that's your definition of a "strong male" you need to find some standards and get yourself some better role models.
They're human garbage.
He’s certainly not my role model, I don’t need any at my age. Young boys, many of whom are fatherless, unfortunately will, and do listen to his words. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just pointing out why he’s successful…. Financially at least.If that's your definition of a "strong male" you need to find some standards and get yourself some better role models.
They're human garbage.
paulguitar said:
ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
It's been a long time since I've been at school, but I am pretty sure that even at that age I would have been able to quickly establish that this fellow is not strong at all, but is a total wQuel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
kpuffin.kpuffin" 
Thing is, from what little I know about him, he seems incredibly successful financially (cue videos of him rolling around in supercars, not just walking up to them for Instagram), he's won two kickboxing tournaments, he's in good physical shape and seems to give a lot of alpha motivational stuff plus from what I've seen in comments on videos featuring Tate he's helped people to make decent money (ok they could be shills), all of which ticks a hell of a lot of boxes for young, impressionable men.
My question is this - how can society attract young impressionable men away from such people? Teaching about feminism and equal rights for women doesn't seem to be working. I would genuinely love to know how I can inspire young men to choose differently on the kind of scale that Tate manages to do it. (I do mentor young adults but not even in the hundreds let alone the thousands that Tate influences.)
Hoofy said:
paulguitar said:
ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
It's been a long time since I've been at school, but I am pretty sure that even at that age I would have been able to quickly establish that this fellow is not strong at all, but is a total wQuel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
kpuffin.kpuffin" Thing is, from what little I know about him, he seems incredibly successful financially (cue videos of him rolling around in supercars, not just walking up to them for Instagram), he's won two kickboxing tournaments, he's in good physical shape and seems to give a lot of alpha motivational stuff plus from what I've seen in comments on videos featuring Tate he's helped people to make decent money (ok they could be shills), all of which ticks a hell of a lot of boxes for young, impressionable men.
My question is this - how can society attract young impressionable men away from such people? Teaching about feminism and equal rights for women doesn't seem to be working. I would genuinely love to know how I can inspire young men to choose differently on the kind of scale that Tate manages to do it. (I do mentor young adults but not even in the hundreds let alone the thousands that Tate influences.)
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
These aren't "strong males" they have some deeply disturbing views of women and they're under repeated investigation around allegations of rape and human trafficking.Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
If that's your definition of a "strong male" you need to find some standards and get yourself some better role models.
They're human garbage.
Tate only appears strong until you look underneath it. His championships are in a very uncontested weight class, his supercars are all on credit. His "success" with women are in developing countries where laws are more lax... He even brags that he moved to Romania so he could get away with rape.
His supporters know this, they know he's garbage but he's the kind of garbage they aspire to be.
Louis Balfour said:
Hoofy said:
paulguitar said:
ironv8 said:
Just been on about him on Talk Radio. It seems school teachers are very worried that too many boys find him a refreshing alternative to what they’re being drip fed.
Quel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
It's been a long time since I've been at school, but I am pretty sure that even at that age I would have been able to quickly establish that this fellow is not strong at all, but is a total wQuel surprise!! Young lads are brimming with testosterone and the vast majority female teachers think they can change thousands of years of evolution.
Boys look up to strong males.
kpuffin.kpuffin" Thing is, from what little I know about him, he seems incredibly successful financially (cue videos of him rolling around in supercars, not just walking up to them for Instagram), he's won two kickboxing tournaments, he's in good physical shape and seems to give a lot of alpha motivational stuff plus from what I've seen in comments on videos featuring Tate he's helped people to make decent money (ok they could be shills), all of which ticks a hell of a lot of boxes for young, impressionable men.
My question is this - how can society attract young impressionable men away from such people? Teaching about feminism and equal rights for women doesn't seem to be working. I would genuinely love to know how I can inspire young men to choose differently on the kind of scale that Tate manages to do it. (I do mentor young adults but not even in the hundreds let alone the thousands that Tate influences.)
captain_cynic said:
This... Tate is weak and insecure... Ergo he appeals to other males who are weak and insecure. A.K.A. Incels.
Tate only appears strong until you look underneath it. His championships are in a very uncontested weight class, his supercars are all on credit. His "success" with women are in developing countries where laws are more lax... He even brags that he moved to Romania so he could get away with rape.
His supporters know this, they know he's garbage but he's the kind of garbage they aspire to be.
I think your last line isn't correct, I think they aspire to have what he has but don't aspire to be garbage, they do seem to not be able to separate out that he only has what he has because of his garbage behaviour. Now I grant you that sub section of his followers won't have any problem at all being as garbage as he is if the end result is (or at least in their own minds) the same result as he has had. But most I hope will come to a realisation that being garbage isn't worth it.Tate only appears strong until you look underneath it. His championships are in a very uncontested weight class, his supercars are all on credit. His "success" with women are in developing countries where laws are more lax... He even brags that he moved to Romania so he could get away with rape.
His supporters know this, they know he's garbage but he's the kind of garbage they aspire to be.
I think we are all giving teenage boys far too much credit, they don't think deeply about anything, they see a macho man with girls cars and money who says some entertaining stuff that makes them laugh.
The Tate brothers are everything that is wrong with social media as are the only fans girls making what they do glamorous as are the political channels seeking to polarize views along with the racial divide that has opened up due to social media. Its a curse really isn't it, remove it and there is no Tate, no mainstream extremism, no normalizing the objectification of women and their bodies to millions of teens.
In a world where everything goes the authorities have lost the ability to deal with these monsters!
The Tate brothers are everything that is wrong with social media as are the only fans girls making what they do glamorous as are the political channels seeking to polarize views along with the racial divide that has opened up due to social media. Its a curse really isn't it, remove it and there is no Tate, no mainstream extremism, no normalizing the objectification of women and their bodies to millions of teens.
In a world where everything goes the authorities have lost the ability to deal with these monsters!
captain_cynic said:
His supporters know this, they know he's garbage but he's the kind of garbage they aspire to be.
Look at it objectively - he's in shape/looks good, he can handle himself in a fight, he has nice and expensive cars and he is surrounded by beautiful women. If any man can't understand why that is appealing then take yourself back to being a teenager, where very little of that is attainable and yet it is everything most young men desire. Superficially, he has everything.
There is an issue (I think) with how while equality, female rights etc are great and empowering for women it is very difficult for young men who's natural behaviour is to fight with each other, chase women, sleep with them, be "powerful" etc. All behaviours which biologically are very useful for the species survival and when out on the savannah would have helped the survival of your tribe over the next tribe, and while they're obviously no longer as needed in Milton Keynes in 2024, we are biologically still the same as those tribal warriors from 3000 years ago. It takes time to teach that out of young men who are full of hormones and learning how the world works.
Condi said:
captain_cynic said:
His supporters know this, they know he's garbage but he's the kind of garbage they aspire to be.
Look at it objectively - he's in shape/looks good, he can handle himself in a fight, he has nice and expensive cars and he is surrounded by beautiful women. If any man can't understand why that is appealing then take yourself back to being a teenager, where very little of that is attainable and yet it is everything most young men desire. Superficially, he has everything.
Condi said:
There is an issue (I think) with how while equality, female rights etc are great and empowering for women it is very difficult for young men who's natural behaviour is to fight with each other, chase women, sleep with them, be "powerful" etc. All behaviours which biologically are very useful for the species survival and when out on the savannah would have helped the survival of your tribe over the next tribe, and while they're obviously no longer as needed in Milton Keynes in 2024, we are biologically still the same as those tribal warriors from 3000 years ago. It takes time to teach that out of young men who are full of hormones and learning how the world works in 2024.
And here it is, the terrible argument used to defend terrible people.Hate to break it to you but it's b
ks, feminism isn't responsible and men aren't meant to constantly fight each other. This isn't 10,000BC any more. Those "men" died out because people who learned to co-operate took all the food and had the babies that survived. We're social creatures by nature, we don't vie for supremecy to be the "alpha" which in itself is based on flaws research (in wild wolf packs, the oldest parent is usually the leader).
A basis on some evolutionary drive to fight is utter b
ks.Biologically, there are differences from humans 100 years ago, let alone 12,000.
This is a social problem, fortunately a social solution is far faster than an evolutionary one.
Edited by captain_cynic on Wednesday 13th March 12:23
captain_cynic said:
And here it is, the terrible argument used to defend terrible people.
Hate to break it to you but it's bks, feminism isn't responsible and men aren't meant to constantly fight each other. This isn't 10,000BC any more. Those "men" died out because people who learned to co-operate took all the food and had the babies that survived.
We're social creatures by nature, we don't vie for supremecy to be the "alpha" which in itself is based on flaws research (in wild wolf packs, the oldest parent is usually the leader).
A basis on some evolutionary drive to fight is utter bks.
Biologically, there are differences from humans 100 years ago, let alone 12,000.
This is a social problem, fortunately a social solution is dlfar faster than an evolutionary one.
Do you actually believe this?!Hate to break it to you but it's b
ks, feminism isn't responsible and men aren't meant to constantly fight each other. This isn't 10,000BC any more. Those "men" died out because people who learned to co-operate took all the food and had the babies that survived. We're social creatures by nature, we don't vie for supremecy to be the "alpha" which in itself is based on flaws research (in wild wolf packs, the oldest parent is usually the leader).
A basis on some evolutionary drive to fight is utter b
ks.Biologically, there are differences from humans 100 years ago, let alone 12,000.
This is a social problem, fortunately a social solution is dlfar faster than an evolutionary one.
Humans have fought each other since the dawn of time, and still do so today. The biggest male gorilla leads his pack because he can defend them against other packs. Our own species (homo erectus) only became dominant because it killed off other forms of evolved apes, after doing a bit of inter-breeding. Go back not that far (1600's, only 500 years) and there were tribes in NZ who fought each other and kept heads as drinking bowls.
I didn't say feminism was responsible, I said evolution was responsible.
Biologically there are f
k all differences from humans 12,000 years ago, let alone 100 years ago. What differences there are are physical and due to better diet and healthcare, our brains are still largely unchanged. Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff