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Don't forget you are calculating the commute with the ideal journey time without delays.
And when does that f**king happen more than 2 days in a row?
3 hour planned commute could easily double, plus you risk the Thurs/Fri night delays/crashes/train problems that mean you get home late or not at all for the start of the weekend.
Don't think that the new employer/HR department will not question you on the long journey time, ask if it is feasible, how will you handle delays etc.
£10k is nowhere near enough to consider that.
Tell the recruiter to find you a similar job in home city/town.
And when does that f**king happen more than 2 days in a row?
3 hour planned commute could easily double, plus you risk the Thurs/Fri night delays/crashes/train problems that mean you get home late or not at all for the start of the weekend.
Don't think that the new employer/HR department will not question you on the long journey time, ask if it is feasible, how will you handle delays etc.
£10k is nowhere near enough to consider that.
Tell the recruiter to find you a similar job in home city/town.
advicedout said:
Muzzer79 said:
Maybe my maths is pants but you said in your OP it was 5 days in the office over 2 weeks.
6 hours a day travelling for each working day means a total of 30 hours commuting time for those 5 days.
You're doing that for half of a 2 week period, so it means an average of 15 hours per week commuting?
In any case, it's the time that the commute robs relative to your home life.
10 hours a week commuting 1 hour each way every day, for example, is fine.
10 hours commuting over 2 days, for example, means you're out of the picture for 2 full days a week (more or less)
This has a significant effect on your home life, even if you are at home the rest of the time.
Your maths is fine. But there is an option of staying over whenever I need. So I would plan to stay over twice to cover those 5 days. i.e Week 1 - travel Monday, stay in a hotel, come back Tuesday. Travel and come back Thursday. Week 2 - Travel Tuesday, come back Wednesday. So 5 days done, and only 18 hours spent travelling. therefore 9 hours per week.6 hours a day travelling for each working day means a total of 30 hours commuting time for those 5 days.
You're doing that for half of a 2 week period, so it means an average of 15 hours per week commuting?
In any case, it's the time that the commute robs relative to your home life.
10 hours a week commuting 1 hour each way every day, for example, is fine.
10 hours commuting over 2 days, for example, means you're out of the picture for 2 full days a week (more or less)
This has a significant effect on your home life, even if you are at home the rest of the time.
That will soon hack you off.
I would say take it. Kids don't remember much till they are 4 or 5.
You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
advicedout said:
No, standard class
If it was first class so you could unwind with some food or something then I'd have considered it. Sometimes a commute can be a way to unwind (obviously sometimes it can be a nightmare and has actually been the reason why I packed a job in once) and it's not like you're doing it every night. I didn't read the maths of the situation but if you're at home more then you could actually have more time with the familyNot sure I could cope with standard class commuting that distance regularly though
AndrewEH1 said:
So you are happy in your current job then and haven't been looking. So why move jobs?
The recruiter is just trying to earn their commission and searching for people on LinkedIn is the easy and lazy way of doing it.
Sorry, should have been clear - it was an internal recruiter, so HR is probably more accurate.The recruiter is just trying to earn their commission and searching for people on LinkedIn is the easy and lazy way of doing it.
Don't even think about it.
One delay could have a knock on effect of a few hours over such a distance. I know you are still living there but you must be doing very well cost of living wise up north. Don't estimate how much a couple of nights in London may cost you just to have a few bits to eat etc etc.
That £380 a month may actually be closer to £200
One delay could have a knock on effect of a few hours over such a distance. I know you are still living there but you must be doing very well cost of living wise up north. Don't estimate how much a couple of nights in London may cost you just to have a few bits to eat etc etc.
That £380 a month may actually be closer to £200
Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 7th December 17:57
red_slr said:
I would say take it. Kids don't remember much till they are 4 or 5.
You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
This is my take on it too. It's not that bad. You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
My job is worse in terms of time spent on the road/away from home, and for less than half of what the OP would be earning. And I can do a lot of hours in a single day too, 12-18 hours sometimes (not every day of course).
I don't particularly like London either, as per GetCarter's post, but it's probably worth it for a handful of years. You can always come back if you decide you don't like it, at a guess after 2-3 years the commute and inconvenience will get you down.
red_slr said:
I would say take it. Kids don't remember much till they are 4 or 5.
You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
I think my attitude to being dismissive about the not being there for 2 nights every 2 weeks probably comes from the fact that I spend loads of time with my wife and son when I work from home right now (3 days a week), and knowing that this will continue (2/3 days a week). Maybe that's why i'm surprised at responses where people feel my home life will go to pot if i'm not there 2 nights every 2 weeks.You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
I have breakfast lunch and dinner with my family 3 times a week - that would just go down slightly with the new job, but it would still mean i'm home for at least 50% of the time.
p1stonhead said:
Don't even think about it.
One delay could have a knock on effect of a few hours over such a distance. I know you are still living there but you must be doing very well cost of living wise up north. Don't estimate how much a couple of nights in London may cost you just to have a few bits to eat etc etc.
That £380 a month may actually be closer to £200
All travel/accomodation/food would be paid for if i'm in London. My home would be my office in my contract, and any travel from there would be considered as being on business, so would be on expenses.One delay could have a knock on effect of a few hours over such a distance. I know you are still living there but you must be doing very well cost of living wise up north. Don't estimate how much a couple of nights in London may cost you just to have a few bits to eat etc etc.
That £380 a month may actually be closer to £200
Edited by p1stonhead on Monday 7th December 17:57
Northern cities are generally a lot nicer than people from the south give them credit for and London is a s
t hole for its majority and is only loved by those who actually were either born there or cant get out..... and have no choice but to work there.
The pressure is likely to be higher in a London city environment also.... as previously said by most other posters - dont do it, unless there is a much more substantial increase in pay.
t hole for its majority and is only loved by those who actually were either born there or cant get out..... and have no choice but to work there.The pressure is likely to be higher in a London city environment also.... as previously said by most other posters - dont do it, unless there is a much more substantial increase in pay.
advicedout said:
red_slr said:
I would say take it. Kids don't remember much till they are 4 or 5.
You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
I think my attitude to being dismissive about the not being there for 2 nights every 2 weeks probably comes from the fact that I spend loads of time with my wife and son when I work from home right now (3 days a week), and knowing that this will continue (2/3 days a week). Maybe that's why i'm surprised at responses where people feel my home life will go to pot if i'm not there 2 nights every 2 weeks.You will be at home 2/3 days a week - working from home - that's perfect IMHO.
That gives you another 3 or 4 years to build your XP and get London on your CV.
Build your contacts and take the next step up the ladder in a few years.
Its not always about money, your experience is what counts for future prospects.
I have breakfast lunch and dinner with my family 3 times a week - that would just go down slightly with the new job, but it would still mean i'm home for at least 50% of the time.
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