Donation-based Crowdfunding: Begging?

Donation-based Crowdfunding: Begging?

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Who_Goes_Blue

1,124 posts

173 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Does everyone on PH want to give me £20 so i can buy a Cerbera?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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GappySmeg said:
Crowd-sourcing is now replacing financial prudence!
In this case it is in that they are trying to preserve as much of that inheritance as possible.

with a simple burning now costing about £3k you can see how in such a time of need and grief the thought of using any of late Dad's (say) £10k savings to plant him would be utterly impossible to obtain. There might into even be enough for a nice holiday out of the old bugger if the buffet isn't trimmed a little...



Side story - elderly relative dies leaving 10% of their estate to a grand daughter that they have seen about 5 times in her life since she was about 6. " weeks after the funeral her Dad is on the phone to his brother asking when his daughter is going to get her money "Because her car is very old and needs some work doing and she is thinking about buying a new one." So pissed off that i wasn't there to answer "Well it's a bloody good job the old goat died when she did then or else your daughter would be proper fked."

Oakey

27,618 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Shakermaker said:
Was he now? That's a shame, really, I hadn't read that. Not "a shame that he's been charged for committing an offence", but just that having seemingly been so ready to rush in and help (which I hope most people would do) he's gone and turned around the perception so fast back to what many people probably think about homeless.

And all unbeknown to the person who set up the GFM page, who too wanted to help someone who looked to be doing the right thing and was perhaps deserving of a bit of charity.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/16/homeless-manchester-hero-charged-theft-bombing-victim/

Was there ever any evidence to back up his claims? The world is full of Walter Mitty's happy to use tragic events for their own gain so I'm always surprised when people take these claims at face value and just assume these people are being 100% honest without any sort of confirmation first.

JDiz

1,070 posts

246 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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You are right it is begging, and the majority of cases would be something you should insure.

This is in the news locally: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-40...

It was a gas explosion, isn't that what buildings and contents insurance is for?

Glassman

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22,643 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2017
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Oakey said:
Just as well as he was recently charged with stealing from one of the victims as they lay in a coma!

Here's an example of a local one that will probably boil OP's piss:

http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/resort-rall...

Burns part of his rented house down, no insurance as it had "just ran out " (that old chestnut, since when has insurance not been on a rolling contract?), idiot public give him £5k.
"We needed a way to raise money quickly and efficiently because unfortunately Bobby’s insurance had just run out.”

There you go.

And:

"We needed a way to raise money quickly and efficiently because unfortunately Bobby’s insurance had just run out.”

The PUBLISHER even posts a link to the campaign at the end of the article.


Alex_225

6,310 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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GappySmeg said:
A gent from my town died in a tragic accident recently. He was pensionable age, had a nice car, premier league season ticket, out drinking/socialising several days a week.
Yet his family are now crowd-sourcing for his funeral.
Crowd-sourcing is now replacing financial prudence!
Another p!ss take then basically. Trouble is that most people in this world have a sob story of some kind. Whether it's losing a parent young or a child or suffering an illness. If we gave money to every person who told us about it, everyone in the country would simply exchange their money with the person next to them.

I find it pretty audacious that people set up these pages believing that they deserve funding above someone else in this world. Hardship doesn't by default entitle you to anything, harsh but true.

Glassman

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22,643 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Alex_225 said:
I find it pretty audacious that people set up these pages believing that they deserve funding above someone else in this world. Hardship doesn't by default entitle you to anything, harsh but true.
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deckster

9,630 posts

257 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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So what did happen to Aerofoil, anyway?

Oakey

27,618 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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deckster said:
So what did happen to Aerofoil, anyway?
He probably went back to the club with his fistfuls of money

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Fools and their money have always, and will always, be parted. This is just a more modern method for obtaining it.

Glassman

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22,643 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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hyphen said:
Fools and their money have always, and will always, be parted. This is just a more modern method for obtaining it.
Is the suggestion here that the ones setting it up, and/or the recipients of the spondulicks are the smart/clever/shrewd ones?

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Glassman said:
hyphen said:
Fools and their money have always, and will always, be parted. This is just a more modern method for obtaining it.
Is the suggestion here that the ones setting it up, and/or the recipients of the spondulicks are the smart/clever/shrewd ones?
Yes

When the cause is frivolous. The boxer and UFC star this weekend who this Saturday will get millions to pay up to watch their sham boxing match are another example.

The innocent and stupid will alway fork out for stupid stuff, it is a very profitable venture. The only requirement is to make it legal, as highlighted by the current woes of the sub prime operator, Provident Financial with its mis-selling investigation.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 23 August 18:24

Glassman

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22,643 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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hyphen said:
When the cause is frivolous.
Isn't it subjective?

Those chipping in will cite reasons for, etc.

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Glassman said:
Isn't it subjective?

Those chipping in will cite reasons for, etc.
Yup very much subjective. And if they are informed and they want to spend it there, then as long as it is all kosher let them do so.

Glassman

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22,643 posts

217 months

DanielSan

18,851 posts

169 months

Sunday 27th August 2017
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Glassman said:
Lop it's head off, pluck it and get it in the BBQ.

hyphen

26,262 posts

92 months

Sunday 27th August 2017
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hehe Bless her.

fatandwheezing

417 posts

160 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Know of a just giving campaign to help pay for a book to be published. No incentives like with kickstarter, just 'give me some cash, is my dream to do this.'

Meanwhile, while that is running, they are off on their third foreign holiday of the year, leaving their nice new discovery sport at the airport.

Glassman

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22,643 posts

217 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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fatandwheezing said:
Know of a just giving campaign to help pay for a book to be published. No incentives like with kickstarter, just 'give me some cash, is my dream to do this.'

Meanwhile, while that is running, they are off on their third foreign holiday of the year, leaving their nice new discovery sport at the airport.
Link?



Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

181 months

Monday 28th August 2017
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Glassman said:
I read that thinking it must be a pisstake, but I think it's serious. It's even more amazing that someone has offered fifty quid