'Ask' or 'Arks'
Discussion
robsco said:
It boils my piss too. Like people who say "barth" instead of "bath". Where is the "r" in bath?
There isn't one in laugh either. Same sound though. Ask the people who live in the city of Barth & Wells perhaps. I've never once heard it called bath the way you would want to say it. Here you go, spelling does not always denote pronunciation in English does it? If so, I'd love to hear someone read this aloud...
Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhymes with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough?
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is give it up!
Gerard Nolst Trenité
Edited by 4988cc on Sunday 2nd January 20:34
jains15 said:
I always just took it as an accent thing, the same reason as people of a southern persuasion put an r into words such as glass and bath. It's how they speak, get over it
They aren't 'putting an r in it'. that is the difference between a long 'a' and short 'a' pronunication.The asked vs arksd is changing the form of the word, quite different.
4988cc said:
robsco said:
It boils my piss too. Like people who say "barth" instead of "bath". Where is the "r" in bath?
There isn't one in laugh either. Same sound though. Ask the people who live in the city of Barth & Wells perhaps. I've never once heard it called bath the way you would want to say it. Here you go, spelling does not always denote pronunciation in English does it? If so, I'd love to hear someone read this aloud...
blah blah blah...
King Herald said:
robsco said:
It boils my piss too. Like people who say "barth" instead of "bath". Where is the "r" in bath?
Like the clowns who say 'Farther' when they talk about their Dad, where is the 'R' in Father??? 
disation of the word 'exactly'.robsco said:
King Herald said:
robsco said:
It boils my piss too. Like people who say "barth" instead of "bath". Where is the "r" in bath?
Like the clowns who say 'Farther' when they talk about their Dad, where is the 'R' in Father??? sleep envy said:
robsco said:
King Herald said:
robsco said:
It boils my piss too. Like people who say "barth" instead of "bath". Where is the "r" in bath?
Like the clowns who say 'Farther' when they talk about their Dad, where is the 'R' in Father??? 
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