Accidentally not paying a bill in a restaurant...

Accidentally not paying a bill in a restaurant...

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AB

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17,012 posts

196 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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He's said he'll enjoy the £20 more than the large chain restaurant will.

AB

Original Poster:

17,012 posts

196 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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ROOODBOY said:
what goes around comes around...
How do you know which restaurant we're talking about? wink

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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AB said:
He's said he'll enjoy the £20 more than the large chain restaurant will.
But perhaps slightly less than the waitress who will possibly now be £20 light on their wage packet. The £20 that to them was the difference between a week of chicken based meals and a week of 10p beans meals.

Nice bloke.

I'd add him to my list of people to avoid urinating on if found alight.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I had had meals where the wrong bill has been given and have paid not noticing until after. I have never gone back, is that an evil thing to do?

xr287

874 posts

181 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I was once in a restaurant when their card machine broke. Having no cash on me I wasn't able to pay so the manager handed me my reciept and told me I could come back and use that as a reference to pay. But they didn't ask me for any details or anything so I could have just never returned.

So just went round the corner to a cash machine and came back and paid, as I'd expect any normal person to do. Was surprised they weren't bothered in letting me wander out with no guarantee of ever getting the money though.

xr287

874 posts

181 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Rude-boy said:
AB said:
He's said he'll enjoy the £20 more than the large chain restaurant will.
But perhaps slightly less than the waitress who will possibly now be £20 light on their wage packet. The £20 that to them was the difference between a week of chicken based meals and a week of 10p beans meals.

Nice bloke.

I'd add him to my list of people to avoid urinating on if found alight.
I'm pretty sure it would be illegal to dock the money from someones wages if the shortfall is due to a customers dishonesty/theft.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Rude-boy said:
AB said:
He's said he'll enjoy the £20 more than the large chain restaurant will.
But perhaps slightly less than the waitress who will possibly now be £20 light on their wage packet. The £20 that to them was the difference between a week of chicken based meals and a week of 10p beans meals.

Nice bloke.

I'd add him to my list of people to avoid urinating on if found alight.
This.

What a c nt.

There was a bloke like this at ******** Bank where I used to work.

He earned £350,000 a year, but used to deliberately play the "I gave you a £20 note" trick when buying drinks. Used to think he was so very clever.

Eventually he did it on front of a Board Director. He was fired next day.

Karma.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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xr287 said:
I was once in a restaurant when their card machine broke. Having no cash on me I wasn't able to pay so the manager handed me my reciept and told me I could come back and use that as a reference to pay. But they didn't ask me for any details or anything so I could have just never returned.

So just went round the corner to a cash machine and came back and paid, as I'd expect any normal person to do. Was surprised they weren't bothered in letting me wander out with no guarantee of ever getting the money though.
They most likely sized you up and went on gut instinct. They were right to do so and you were right to do what you did as the manager will most likely do it again, or similar.

If you hadn't gone back karma would have cought up with you one day and he would be very likely to never be so understanding again.

The Walrus

1,857 posts

206 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Soovy said:
Rude-boy said:
AB said:
He's said he'll enjoy the £20 more than the large chain restaurant will.
But perhaps slightly less than the waitress who will possibly now be £20 light on their wage packet. The £20 that to them was the difference between a week of chicken based meals and a week of 10p beans meals.

Nice bloke.

I'd add him to my list of people to avoid urinating on if found alight.
This.

What a c nt.

There was a bloke like this at ******** Bank where I used to work.

He earned £350,000 a year, but used to deliberately play the "I gave you a £20 note" trick when buying drinks. Used to think he was so very clever.

Eventually he did it on front of a Board Director. He was fired next day.

Karma.
What did he do on the front of the Board Director ??? wink

Edited by The Walrus on Friday 7th January 17:08

smartie

2,604 posts

274 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Landlord said:
Depending on the restaurant, the employers may stop the equivalent of the shortfall out of the pay of the waiting staff who was responsible for ensuring the bill was paid in full. So there's that on his conscience too. Low paid person stumping up for his meal. Could feasibly mean they end up working for nowt!
That's illegal.

Soovy

35,829 posts

272 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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smartie said:
Landlord said:
Depending on the restaurant, the employers may stop the equivalent of the shortfall out of the pay of the waiting staff who was responsible for ensuring the bill was paid in full. So there's that on his conscience too. Low paid person stumping up for his meal. Could feasibly mean they end up working for nowt!
That's illegal.
Yeah right, and the poor kid who has just got the job fresh off the boat from Polan will really be standing up for their rights.

Sorry, I cannot bear tightness.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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jpringle819 said:
How would people deal with this similar situation.

A group of 15 or so employees of the same company had a meal which was paid for by one person to be claimed back on expenses. It was agreed that everyone would put in cash to cover the tip and carry on to a pub. One of the most senior people stayed to pay the bill on their credit card and then joined everyone else and bought a couple of rounds.

It turned out that this person had pocketed all the tips and used the money to buy the rounds of drinks.
I do the same. Value plus 5% or 10% (depending how good it was) on my card and scoop the cash. No big deal.

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Have had an argument with a restaurant before now when they failed to add our drinks to the bill. Eventually gave up and paid the bill they wanted us to pay.

Would I go back? Under the circumstances in the OP, yes.

MX7

7,902 posts

175 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I'v gone back to pay. It's plain theft.

siwebster

388 posts

194 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I've had a couple of experiences with this, one at a good local pub/restaurant - spent the whole evening in there eating and drinking, left a bit the worse for wear, forgot to pay the bill.

Realised the next day, popped down as soon as it was open to sort it - the manager hadn't noticed and bought me a pint to say thanks.

On another occasion, slightly different, but had a nice meal in a restaurant and when the bill arrived it had rump steaks instead of the fillet two of us had eaten, plus a bottle of wine missing. I called the manager over and said the bill was wrong in his favour, he corrected it and knocked our desserts off for being honest.

I go with honesty every time.

NuisanceFactor

289 posts

185 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Rawwr said:
I do the same. Value plus 5% or 10% (depending how good it was) on my card and scoop the cash. No big deal.
Except that often, the tips are given to the staff to share out, if it goes on the card it will likely just go into the accounts.

AB

Original Poster:

17,012 posts

196 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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MX7 said:
I'v gone back to pay. It's plain theft.
Glad you saw the light. But I was never going to either name you on here or grass you up, so don't worry!

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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NuisanceFactor said:
Except that often, the tips are given to the staff to share out, if it goes on the card it will likely just go into the accounts.
I always ask the waiter before putting a tip on the card....... If it goes to the management, then the tip is cash on the table instead.




Landlord

12,689 posts

258 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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smartie said:
Landlord said:
Depending on the restaurant, the employers may stop the equivalent of the shortfall out of the pay of the waiting staff who was responsible for ensuring the bill was paid in full. So there's that on his conscience too. Low paid person stumping up for his meal. Could feasibly mean they end up working for nowt!
That's illegal.
Is it?! Why is that? Is it the context of the above or just the docking of pay that's illegal?

Just to clarify, it's not what we do at our place! Not that I can recall a time it's ever happened (we swipe cards too).

Colin 1985

1,921 posts

171 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Landlord said:
Depending on the restaurant, the employers may stop the equivalent of the shortfall out of the pay of the waiting staff who was responsible for ensuring the bill was paid in full. So there's that on his conscience too. Low paid person stumping up for his meal. Could feasibly mean they end up working for nowt!
When I was at college, my employer of the time would deduct any errors from your pay (everyone was on minimum wage). Not that I ever made a mistake and had to pay but some did, often ending in tears.

Edited by Colin 1985 on Friday 7th January 18:23