Kids at home....

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MartynVRS

1,200 posts

212 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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KFC said:
If you are working full time and your parents are struggling financially then imo you're being extremely unfair only paying £30/week, even if you're helping out around the house. Get your wallet out ffs :P
I offered to pay that to start plus my brother pays the same. Initially they didn't want anything as they knew I was saving to move out. I do a damn sight more for my parents than lots I know of.

rambo19

2,753 posts

139 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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iphonedyou said:
I never paid anything. Neither will my kids. Personally, it doesn't really sit well with me at all. With kids comes all the baggage, financial and otherwise; that, to me, is the decision you make.

I certainly don't understand the fella earlier who reckons he'll get a holiday out of his kids rent. That's a bit strange to me.
I agree with that, up until the kids start work.

shoehorn

686 posts

145 months

Thursday 31st October 2013
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Quattromaster said:
I used to think my mum was robbing me at that price, and it used to build up to a couple hundred arrears before they would threaten to throw me out, as a spotty 21 yr old muppet I hated them for it
biglaugh

The Moose

22,923 posts

211 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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My parents were always of the view that when in full time education, rent etc was free. Just before I moved out into my own home, it was a few hundred a month (can't remember exact figure).

Parents didn't need the money and it was a pittance for an amazing place to live. No garage space allocated to me though!

I never really minded paying tbh. It included all food, washing and a cleaner once a week!

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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anonymous said:
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Of course you didn't offend me. There was nothing offensive about it at all.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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plenty said:
Yes, there is something interesting about this. This is one of those issues (like marriage) that will reveal some fundamental differences between cultures, even among second- or third-generation immigrants.

I understand why people consider it reasonable to levy a charge, but I wouldn't expect my children to pay a thing ever to live under my roof, even if they earned fat incomes, just as my parents never asked me for anything.
Do you think it is a cultural difference or just a difference of opinion? I have no idea.
But if it's correct that several generations later near middle-aged Indians/Pakistani's are still living with parents - perhaps this lack of rent paid is the reason for this?
Would you not want your children to be independent?

JB!

5,254 posts

182 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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25, still at home, £50 a week.

mental house prices mean I need to find 20-25k to move out frown

JB!

5,254 posts

182 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Pulse said:
All these examples of £100-£200 a month is pretty ridiculous - I know real-life examples of it happening too. All you're doing is encouraging them to stay, as it's cheaper at home than it'll ever be elsewhere!

Also, if you've got one rule for one child, do yourselves a favour and stick to that for the other child(ren).
Out of 3, I'm the only one to contribute, they've had £50 a week off me for easily 5 out of the 9 or so years I've been working wheras my siblings are financially supported through uni, I'm curbing my spending and working on getting a deposit together, as living under the house rules sucks.

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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For me it would depend if the offspring being at their parents house was a short term measure or a long term plan. If it is short term then I wouldn't charge (as my parents didn't for me between Uni and getting my first proper job), but there had to be a plan and actions about moving on.

Long term and/or without a plan for independence, then we'd look at what needed to happen (as a family) to get our offspring standing on their own feet. Part of that might be charging nominal rent (or maybe subsidising a flat rental). Charging market rate and the offspring staying put would suggest there are other reasons than cost that they don't want to move out.

King Herald

23,501 posts

218 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Allanv said:
In 1986 I paid £25 from my £65 wages and that was PER WEEK.

They are having a laugh if it is per month.
In 1976 I paid £7 a week out of my £14 wages. My sister paid £5 out of her £15 dole, as "she has more time to occupy" being unemployed and all.......

wiliferus

4,078 posts

200 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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When I moved out at 21 I was paying £350 p/m from my £1400 wages. My mum was never flush so was happy to pay that much, especially as it was all in... Food, washing, ironing.

ScottishExile

247 posts

216 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Started a YTS scheme in 1984 when I left school, and proudly brought home my first weekly wage packet of £26.25.

Promptly got told by Mum & Dad that now that I was working, it was a Third for my keep, a Third to save and a Third to spend.

Must say, it set me up well to get into the saving habit, even on such a low income. I still try to live by the 'Thirds' rule today.

axgizmo

1,095 posts

155 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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axgizmo said:
I think I was paying £100 a month before I moved out
Should have said really, I always intended to pay £300 a month but that quickly went down to £100 as the job I took (which I still do now) was costing me £600 a month in fuel to get too.

In the end that was the reason I moved out into a rented house, to be closer to work

decadent

2,212 posts

177 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I got kicked out at 20; family home was sold up in London and parents moved to Norfolk. I paid £240 a month 10 years ago while earning £900/mth in my first job.

Looking back now that's a pretty good deal compared what I have to pay to the real world.




Tim-D

531 posts

224 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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When I last lived with the folks I was 19..... in full time employment and earning £400 a month....

I cursed the old man as he had £200 a month off me for rent, I had to pay my own poll tax of £60 per month (gives away the era) and he'd loaned me £2k to buy a car - so an extra £100 for that..... no excuses were offered by me as I knew full well they wouldn't be tolerated - I made sure I paid it & worked bars in the evening to top up meagre remains....

Rationale was to get me used to reality without telling me - I felt seriously aggreived at the time and moved out at earliest opportunity (the folks objective acheived no doubt) Three years later I wanted to buy a house & the old man quietly gave me £2k from the rent I'd bhed so hard about having to pay....

Life lesson learned.....

My friends & colleagues of that era paying either nothing or minimal amounts had their shocks as to the cost of living & value of money far more painfully!

I'll be doing exactly the same to my son when the time comes!

djt100

1,735 posts

187 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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Not me, But a Friend of mine used to have to pay 1/2 has wages from every job he ever had since he worked from paper round right up to when he moved out at about 26 i think. Then his parents gave him a bank book, with everything in, He hated them for taking his wages but moving out meant he could buy and not rent as had a nice deposit that he would have never saved himself.

BigGingerBob

1,718 posts

192 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I did pay around £100 a month. However, that stopped as my parents went on holiday and I don't have a job anymore (only for a month so far and I'm applying for loads every day before anyone get's offended that there is a benefit taker in the place!).
However, a few weeks into benefit time and I can afford to start paying again and I am going to from Monday onwards.
The plan is to move out asap when I get myself a job.
I have only been paying since I left uni earlier this year. I'm 22.

kiethton

13,968 posts

182 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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I pay £250pcm, washing included but have to cook and buy my own food, run errands etc at my own cost too.

I'm 23, earn just sub £30k in SE London/Kent

NadiR

1,071 posts

149 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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amirzed said:
I'm the big kid and at the ripe age of 33 whenever I have lived at home, which is the vast majority, I have paid not a penny in rent. Ever. Neither do I intend to.

Before everyone gets on their high horse can I just point out on the flipside ever since I was a kid I've helped out in the family business, spend countless hours doing admin for their business, had a couple of their rental houses refurbished and managed them and never took a penny for any of this. Neither do I intend to.

I'm Asian Pakistani by the way...
That post couldn't have been more stereotypical, you sound just like my uncle, even to the exact age! laugh

DonnyMac

3,634 posts

205 months

Friday 1st November 2013
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This thread has intrigued me; how and when do you approach the subject of rent with your kids?

One of my lads has just turned 21, NETs £1500-£1900 a month and I can't imagine having a serious conversation with him about taking his money.

I mentioned it a few years back and he said he'd move out if I asked him for rent, laugh, I nearly had a stroke - clearly he has no idea how much the real world costs, but he's done his own washing/ironing since he was fourteen; the cleaner has been told that she might catch something if she goes near his den (so doesn't) and he feeds himself about 50% of the time - to a cost of several hundred pounds he tells me.

At some stage I was always going to do the rent straight into savings trick, but, for his 21st I offered him a rental property on a 50/50 basis with his gift being the deposit on it, so essentially a foot on the ladder for free but with the associated 50% risks.

So, again, how do you actually approach the rent conversation with your working children?

Personally, I cannot imagine it...