Half a world, and half a lifetime away.

[Oilchange]

Considering her heritage it would be the least. Either that or, if there wasnt such a splendid gate guardian already, parked outside Odiham...

[Europa1]

I seem to recall that Chinook featured in a Mike Brewer documentary.

[Oilchange]

On youtube, ‘Chinook pilot takes a...’

Interesting!

[Steve vRS]

Is that Bravo November?

I’m sure it was flying at an air show a couple of years ago. I remember telling my lad it was a famous helicopter.

[stevesingo]

Do any of the more historically illuminated have any thoughts on this?

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/guest-bloggers/ho...

[Ayahuasca]

stevesingo said:

Do any of the more historically illuminated have any thoughts on this?

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/guest-bloggers/ho...

Hmmm, so the UK knew an invasion was coming in time to send a submarine full of SBS men to the island, who landed and killed a bunch of Argie invaders, and then slipped off again? Is that the gist? Funny how in the post McNab world not one of the secret SBS people has ever breathed a word about it in the last 36 years.

[hidetheelephants]

Ayahuasca said:

stevesingo said:

Do any of the more historically illuminated have any thoughts on this?

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/guest-bloggers/ho...

Hmmm, so the UK knew an invasion was coming in time to send a submarine full of SBS men to the island, who landed and killed a bunch of Argie invaders, and then slipped off again? Is that the gist? Funny how in the post McNab world not one of the secret SBS people has ever breathed a word about it in the last 36 years.

More pertinently why would the sleek black bringer of death not have poked holes in the invasion fleet with some sub-harpoons or torpedoes prior to the Arg marines getting a chance to do their amphibious bit?

[Ayahuasca]

hidetheelephants said:

Ayahuasca said:

stevesingo said:

Do any of the more historically illuminated have any thoughts on this?

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/guest-bloggers/ho...

Hmmm, so the UK knew an invasion was coming in time to send a submarine full of SBS men to the island, who landed and killed a bunch of Argie invaders, and then slipped off again? Is that the gist? Funny how in the post McNab world not one of the secret SBS people has ever breathed a word about it in the last 36 years.

More pertinently why would the sleek black bringer of death not have poked holes in the invasion fleet with some sub-harpoons or torpedoes prior to the Arg marines getting a chance to do their amphibious bit?

They had off-loaded their torpedoes in order to cram in more SBS troops, obviously.

[AlmostUseful]

Ayahuasca said:

They had off-loaded their torpedoes in order to cram in more SBS troops, obviously.

Probably had them in the launch tubes so they could fire the troops at shore instead of them having to swim in frog suits.

[alfaspecial]

This is a very interesting report on the air campaign, specifically Argentine air power, in the Falklands War.
Interesting because it is independent (A Canadian author for the US Air Force).

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a202551.pd...

[DMN]

Certainly the Argentinians played down their casluties during their attack on Stanley, by quite a number. At least two AAV-P7/A1 where destroyed with minimal surviors.

As an aside, there has been a recent discussion on PPRUNE about attacks on an unitentified submarine by both British and Argentinian units. Starts here: https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/612118-as...

Seems both sides where convinced there was an SSBN operating in the area and it was attacked by both sides without result.

[Wildcat45]

I've just caught up with this thread.

I can't believe Bravo November is in this state.

Warships are too big and expensive to preserve (in general) but aircraft can usually find a home.

Humphrey is preserved. Bravo November for not just her role in 1982 but also for her participation in high profile operations since, needs preservation.

[Starfighter]

DMN said:

Seems both sides where convinced there was an SSBN operating in the area and it was attacked by both sides without result.

SSN possibly but not a missile boat.

[knk]

Off down to the Falklands in about a month.
A please I have wanted to visit since my schooldays. A shame I will not get to South Georgia.

[Gilhooligan]

Great thread, very interesting. I sit next to a guy at work who was on HMS Glamorgan during the war. Will have to show him this thread.

[PomBstard]

E24man said:

I spent some time on one of Antrims sister ships, the Fife. They were beautiful vessels and indecently rapid if you were carrying enough fuel for its four RR Olympus engines.

Missed this post last year...

I've been on Fife for a party! My cousin had her christening party in the Officers Mess on Fife, as my uncle was, I think, a Petty Officer on board at the time. But that was 1976

My uncle then transferred to the Sheffield...

[DMN]

Starfighter said:

DMN said:

Seems both sides where convinced there was an SSBN operating in the area and it was attacked by both sides without result.

SSN possibly but not a missile boat.

Of course, early morning and all that.

[hidetheelephants]

DMN said:

Certainly the Argentinians played down their casluties during their attack on Stanley, by quite a number. At least two AAV-P7/A1 where destroyed with minimal surviors.

As an aside, there has been a recent discussion on PPRUNE about attacks on an unitentified submarine by both British and Argentinian units. Starts here: https://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/612118-as...

Seems both sides where convinced there was an SSBN operating in the area and it was attacked by both sides without result.

Most books on the conflict relate how there were numerous occasions where the taskforce took ASW action but with inconclusive results; whether there was a submarine was unknown so despite the sonar contacts being nebulous they were prosecuted by helicopters etc.

[andyxxx]

In the thirteen years of being on PH this is undoubtedly the best thread I have read.

I stumbled upon it at lunchtime and have just completed reading every page. How on earth it has escaped the normal PH idiots is astounding.

OP (especially) and contributors: You have a wealth of detailed knowledge that I thank you for taking the time to share.

[Ayahuasca]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/was-colonel-h-a-ma...

Interesting article (excerpt from a book) about Col H at Goose Green. When I was in the infantry my instructors were Falklands veterans and they used his actions as an example of what not to do...