More frivolous purchases, stuff you don't need..
Discussion
ApOrbital said:
I need one of them and then go camping.
Even packing ultralight, it'll be a struggle to take a camp setup with you. That's the main downside to the inflatables - what would usually be storage space is taken up by air chambers... I've just ordered a 15' tandem touring canoe in fibreglass for just such adventures. Double the cost, a git to store and transport - but perfect for solo weekends with doggo to clear the head.
I bought a big inflatable dinghy from Makro when younger with a mate and it had quite a bit of space, maybe this would be a better option than the canoe for camping etc, it was good fun taking it out on lakes in sunny weather and floating around.
It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
Lazermilk said:
I bought a big inflatable dinghy from Makro when younger with a mate and it had quite a bit of space, maybe this would be a better option than the canoe for camping etc, it was good fun taking it out on lakes in sunny weather and floating around.
It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
I so need one of these in my life!It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
When I retired, a bunch of colleagues very kindly had a whip round and presented me with a cheque for a nice sum, oddly exactly what they were asking for a Bosch builders' radio standing on the counter of the local Travis Perkins. I thought the coincidence was too great, and I couldn't resist.
It goes great, plays CDs and can run off a Bosch power tool battery pack. I have not so far managed to cover it in plaster drippings or paint.
I was told they are pretty well indestructible.
It goes great, plays CDs and can run off a Bosch power tool battery pack. I have not so far managed to cover it in plaster drippings or paint.
I was told they are pretty well indestructible.
alorotom said:
Lazermilk said:
I bought a big inflatable dinghy from Makro when younger with a mate and it had quite a bit of space, maybe this would be a better option than the canoe for camping etc, it was good fun taking it out on lakes in sunny weather and floating around.
It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
I so need one of these in my life!It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
David A said:
alorotom said:
Lazermilk said:
I bought a big inflatable dinghy from Makro when younger with a mate and it had quite a bit of space, maybe this would be a better option than the canoe for camping etc, it was good fun taking it out on lakes in sunny weather and floating around.
It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
I so need one of these in my life!It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
https://www.costco.co.uk/Sports-Spas-Leisure/Boati...
David A said:
alorotom said:
Lazermilk said:
I bought a big inflatable dinghy from Makro when younger with a mate and it had quite a bit of space, maybe this would be a better option than the canoe for camping etc, it was good fun taking it out on lakes in sunny weather and floating around.
It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
I so need one of these in my life!It was just like this and at the time cost about £80 or so:
All this talk of boats got me looking again and I found this deal, seems pretty cheap including a little electric motor! Although needs a battery bought separate...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wido-Marina-Inflatable-Po...
ApOrbital said:
I like your thinking sway,that's what I want to do,me my g/f and the mutt on Rivers and camping.
Apache canoes... Or, if you're feeling spendy, the Solway Dory Quetico. Fibreglass is so much better than plastic or inflatable for "proper" use. Stupidly tough, really easy to repair if necessary, really fine angles, and light.
Can then go fancy with ash/oak inwhales and outwhales, cane woven seats, etc.
Sway said:
Fibreglass is so much better than plastic or inflatable for "proper" use. Stupidly tough, really easy to repair if necessary, really fine angles, and light.
Presumably you then need a roof rack though, inflatable makes a lot of sense for occasional use. I noticed the other day that Decathlon had half a dozen different variants of inflatable kayak, but oddly I've never seen anyone using one around here. Loads of kite boarders, stand up paddle boarders, surfers and the occasional wind surfer, so I'm surprised I never see a kayak. I'd have thought inflatable would be ideal for the sea as even if you capsize or swamp it it's not going to sink. Do they flex too much in the waves?
RizzoTheRat said:
Sway said:
Fibreglass is so much better than plastic or inflatable for "proper" use. Stupidly tough, really easy to repair if necessary, really fine angles, and light.
Presumably you then need a roof rack though, inflatable makes a lot of sense for occasional use. I noticed the other day that Decathlon had half a dozen different variants of inflatable kayak, but oddly I've never seen anyone using one around here. Loads of kite boarders, stand up paddle boarders, surfers and the occasional wind surfer, so I'm surprised I never see a kayak. I'd have thought inflatable would be ideal for the sea as even if you capsize or swamp it it's not going to sink. Do they flex too much in the waves?
Inflatable kayaks are decent fun, but no performance beast. And yes, likely too flexy in waves.
Also, for the same money, I'd probably go for an inflatable SUP. Pretty stiff (a mate does pretty well in flat water racing on his...), better view for pottering about, can be surfed - and most come with the ability to sit and paddle like a kayak.
Plus even lighter, smaller to pack, etc.
loudlashadjuster said:
BigMacDaddy said:
Ah really? I assumed it would be some sort of Symbian-based offering and all but useless in the modern world, other than for actually making calls. God dammit, now I might have to go and research these 
I've no idea what Justayellowbadge paid for his, but the 'bay suggests Constellation Vs like that still sell for upwards of £200. Yes, it'll still make calls and texts, and loads of apps will no doubt still be fine, but I'd imagine many will be too constrained by the ageing hardware which was far from cutting edge when it was launched.A nice thing to own, perhaps, but for that kind of money...
At present, it runs everything I use with only a couple of exceptions. One bank app won't play, but the online will so meh.
Wear doesn't work, but I can live with that.
Calls, texts, mail, whatsapp and other messenger apps all fine.
Prime video, Sky Q, Audible, Kindle,, and my music apps all functioning.
Happy. Won't be my work phone, so does enough.
And, honestly, I really did buy it from a curiosity of the absurdity of the thing, but I kinda get it. In the hand the difference between this and an iPhone/Galaxy is akin to the gulf betwixt a Timex and a Patek.
Sway said:
Yep, that's the downside - storage and transportation...
Inflatable kayaks are decent fun, but no performance beast. And yes, likely too flexy in waves.
Also, for the same money, I'd probably go for an inflatable SUP. Pretty stiff (a mate does pretty well in flat water racing on his...), better view for pottering about, can be surfed - and most come with the ability to sit and paddle like a kayak.
Plus even lighter, smaller to pack, etc.
But requires having some kind of ability to balance Inflatable kayaks are decent fun, but no performance beast. And yes, likely too flexy in waves.
Also, for the same money, I'd probably go for an inflatable SUP. Pretty stiff (a mate does pretty well in flat water racing on his...), better view for pottering about, can be surfed - and most come with the ability to sit and paddle like a kayak.
Plus even lighter, smaller to pack, etc.
Justayellowbadge said:
Have had a couple of days to play with it now.
At present, it runs everything I use with only a couple of exceptions. One bank app won't play, but the online will so meh.
Wear doesn't work, but I can live with that.
Calls, texts, mail, whatsapp and other messenger apps all fine.
Prime video, Sky Q, Audible, Kindle,, and my music apps all functioning.
Happy. Won't be my work phone, so does enough.
And, honestly, I really did buy it from a curiosity of the absurdity of the thing, but I kinda get it. In the hand the difference between this and an iPhone/Galaxy is akin to the gulf betwixt a Timex and a Patek.
At present, it runs everything I use with only a couple of exceptions. One bank app won't play, but the online will so meh.
Wear doesn't work, but I can live with that.
Calls, texts, mail, whatsapp and other messenger apps all fine.
Prime video, Sky Q, Audible, Kindle,, and my music apps all functioning.
Happy. Won't be my work phone, so does enough.
And, honestly, I really did buy it from a curiosity of the absurdity of the thing, but I kinda get it. In the hand the difference between this and an iPhone/Galaxy is akin to the gulf betwixt a Timex and a Patek.
I admit I find myself looking at them from time to time for just this reason, but I couldn't use one as my main phone so the price is well outside of 'novelty' value for me.RizzoTheRat said:
Sway said:
Yep, that's the downside - storage and transportation...
Inflatable kayaks are decent fun, but no performance beast. And yes, likely too flexy in waves.
Also, for the same money, I'd probably go for an inflatable SUP. Pretty stiff (a mate does pretty well in flat water racing on his...), better view for pottering about, can be surfed - and most come with the ability to sit and paddle like a kayak.
Plus even lighter, smaller to pack, etc.
But requires having some kind of ability to balance Inflatable kayaks are decent fun, but no performance beast. And yes, likely too flexy in waves.
Also, for the same money, I'd probably go for an inflatable SUP. Pretty stiff (a mate does pretty well in flat water racing on his...), better view for pottering about, can be surfed - and most come with the ability to sit and paddle like a kayak.
Plus even lighter, smaller to pack, etc.
All personally powered watercraft require balance, it's merely on a scale. K1 sprint racing being the least stable watercraft of any kind, and superwide raft platforms being the most stable. An inflatable "touring/recreation" sup is far closer to the latter than the former.
Canoes vary wildly - from prospector types, designed to carry huge loads often in 'choppy' waters, through to racing types with no primary stability at all.
Sway said:
All personally powered watercraft require balance, it's merely on a scale. K1 sprint racing being the least stable watercraft of any kind, and superwide raft platforms being the most stable.
I would think a racing single scull would be more unstable (though you have the oars to balance). If you catch a crab, you will capsize.AstonZagato said:
Sway said:
All personally powered watercraft require balance, it's merely on a scale. K1 sprint racing being the least stable watercraft of any kind, and superwide raft platforms being the most stable.
I would think a racing single scull would be more unstable (though you have the oars to balance). If you catch a crab, you will capsize.Put a scull in the water, unladen, and it'll stay level. Especially with blades in gates.
Put any sprint or marathon kayak in the water and let go and it'll capsize and sink, instantly. They're like knife edges - and leave a tiny wake in comparison to a racing rowing boat, even when comparing a k4 with a 1x.
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