News presenters

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fourstardan

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4,492 posts

146 months

Saturday 25th May
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A pointless thread here but while watching BBC and the lovely Nina W (and burnt out Charlie) something came into my mind.

Are News readers when at work being good actors? When interviewing someone the mannerisms, looks of concentration listening and compassion always seem rather OTT.


Roofless Toothless

5,778 posts

134 months

Saturday 25th May
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Somebody that worked at the BBC once told me that underneath those shiny desks they sit at, it’s knee deep in discarded coffee cups and snack wrappers.

The deep looks into the interviewees eyes are a technique used to get them to open up and speak lucidly. You can’t ‘perform’ if the person you are talking to is shuffling notes and not maintaining eye contact, even off screen.

My favourite bit of the correspondent’s/news presenter’s art is the little noddy moment they display to the camera as they are being introduced standing outside No.10 or somewhere. They are clearly signalling to the producer that they can hear the cue and will be coming in with their bit at the correct moment. Some do it more subtly than others.

andyxxx

1,183 posts

229 months

Saturday 25th May
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There is a current presenter for regional tv (Yorkshire) that talks with a constant stupid smile. I don’t know his name – I turn off immediately I see him

There is also a female weather girl (Vicky?) who has a really broad regional accent. I think she must be having elocution lessons because it now seems to come and go a bit.


ChevronB19

5,869 posts

165 months

Saturday 25th May
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andyxxx said:
There is a current presenter for regional tv (Yorkshire) that talks with a constant stupid smile. I don’t know his name – I turn off immediately I see him

There is also a female weather girl (Vicky?) who has a really broad regional accent. I think she must be having elocution lessons because it now seems to come and go a bit.
What’s wrong with a regional accent (full stop) especially with being a presenter on regional tv?

andyxxx

1,183 posts

229 months

Saturday 25th May
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ChevronB19 said:
andyxxx said:
There is a current presenter for regional tv (Yorkshire) that talks with a constant stupid smile. I don’t know his name – I turn off immediately I see him

There is also a female weather girl (Vicky?) who has a really broad regional accent. I think she must be having elocution lessons because it now seems to come and go a bit.
What’s wrong with a regional accent (full stop) especially with being a presenter on regional tv?
Nothing wrong with it if you like regional accents

Mr Pointy

11,383 posts

161 months

Saturday 25th May
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ChevronB19 said:
andyxxx said:
There is a current presenter for regional tv (Yorkshire) that talks with a constant stupid smile. I don’t know his name – I turn off immediately I see him

There is also a female weather girl (Vicky?) who has a really broad regional accent. I think she must be having elocution lessons because it now seems to come and go a bit.
What’s wrong with a regional accent (full stop) especially with being a presenter on regional tv?
When you need subtitles you know it's a bit too regional.

sherman

13,478 posts

217 months

Saturday 25th May
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Mr Pointy said:
ChevronB19 said:
andyxxx said:
There is a current presenter for regional tv (Yorkshire) that talks with a constant stupid smile. I don’t know his name – I turn off immediately I see him

There is also a female weather girl (Vicky?) who has a really broad regional accent. I think she must be having elocution lessons because it now seems to come and go a bit.
What’s wrong with a regional accent (full stop) especially with being a presenter on regional tv?
When you need subtitles you know it's a bit too regional.
One of the news readers on Relorting Scotland is from Lewis. You can tell shes trying to put on her telephone voice for the news. It slipz dvery now and then when reporting about something in that region.
Thdres a Shetland and Orkney correspondant. He really should have subtitles sometimes.

fourstardan

Original Poster:

4,492 posts

146 months

Saturday 25th May
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I also find regional news (I'm south today) to be like its an Amateur dramatics club.

leef44

4,561 posts

155 months

Saturday 25th May
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I only watch Bloomberg news. Really enjoy watching Scarlett Fu and Katie Greifeld. Very polished, slick at correcting themselves. I don't believe they have a finance background but seem to really know there stuff.

languagetimothy

1,128 posts

164 months

Saturday 25th May
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[quote=Roofless Toothless

My favourite bit of the correspondent’s/news presenter’s art is the little noddy moment they display to the camera as they are being introduced standing outside No.10 or somewhere. They are clearly signalling to the producer that they can hear the cue and will be coming in with their bit at the correct moment. Some do it more subtly than others.
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And then they start with “well….

I know there’s an art to interviewing, Paxman for example, but actually reading an auto queue and presenting… don’t know. I’m not saying it’s easy but really why do they get paid so much? I don’t watch the news because of the presenter. I watch it for the news. If the presenter says I want more money or I’m off, then really …go.

beambeam1

1,082 posts

45 months

Saturday 25th May
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sherman said:
One of the news readers on Relorting Scotland is from Lewis. You can tell shes trying to put on her telephone voice for the news. It slipz dvery now and then when reporting about something in that region.
Thdres a Shetland and Orkney correspondant. He really should have subtitles sometimes.
It's a lovely and distinct accent that she has. She does voice overs for shows like Scottish Home of the Year. She could sound like Chewbacca though and I still wouldn't change the channel, beautiful lady!

croyde

23,202 posts

232 months

Sunday 26th May
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Roofless Toothless said:
Somebody that worked at the BBC once told me that underneath those shiny desks they sit at, it’s knee deep in discarded coffee cups and snack wrappers.

The deep looks into the interviewees eyes are a technique used to get them to open up and speak lucidly. You can’t ‘perform’ if the person you are talking to is shuffling notes and not maintaining eye contact, even off screen.

My favourite bit of the correspondent’s/news presenter’s art is the little noddy moment they display to the camera as they are being introduced standing outside No.10 or somewhere. They are clearly signalling to the producer that they can hear the cue and will be coming in with their bit at the correct moment. Some do it more subtly than others.
They nod as there's a delay, even from number 10, but can be up to 10secs from some hell hole warzone.

So it looks like they are listening to the presenter in the studio even when they are not hearing them yet.

The less experienced ones stand there gormlessly making us think that we've lost the connection and starts a right panic in the control room laugh

Skyedriver

18,080 posts

284 months

Sunday 26th May
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beambeam1 said:
It's a lovely and distinct accent that she has. She does voice overs for shows like Scottish Home of the Year. She could sound like Chewbacca though and I still wouldn't change the channel, beautiful lady!
Anne McAlpine, does regular slots on Landward as well.

Sheepshanks

33,189 posts

121 months

Sunday 26th May
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Roofless Toothless said:
My favourite bit of the correspondent’s/news presenter’s art is the little noddy moment they display to the camera as they are being introduced standing outside No.10 or somewhere. They are clearly signalling to the producer that they can hear the cue and will be coming in with their bit at the correct moment. Some do it more subtly than others.
I wish they’d all do that - it infuriates me when the newsreader asks a long question only for it to become apparent that the roving reporter can’t hear them.

Any why is there often a massive delay? Watch the news in the US and that doesn’t happen across thousands of miles, vs tiny distances here.

croyde

23,202 posts

232 months

Sunday 26th May
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Depends where the satellite is?

FMOB

1,130 posts

14 months

Sunday 26th May
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Sheepshanks said:
Roofless Toothless said:
My favourite bit of the correspondent’s/news presenter’s art is the little noddy moment they display to the camera as they are being introduced standing outside No.10 or somewhere. They are clearly signalling to the producer that they can hear the cue and will be coming in with their bit at the correct moment. Some do it more subtly than others.
I wish they’d all do that - it infuriates me when the newsreader asks a long question only for it to become apparent that the roving reporter can’t hear them.

Any why is there often a massive delay? Watch the news in the US and that doesn’t happen across thousands of miles, vs tiny distances here.
It is called latency and depends upon how far the signal has to travel, yes the physical distance might be small but the actual signal might go 3 times round the planet if they are using satellite connectivity.

Unfortunately we haven't found a way of making light go any faster than 299 792 458 m/s so you will just have to put with it.


Edited by FMOB on Sunday 26th May 09:12

Sheepshanks

33,189 posts

121 months

Sunday 26th May
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FMOB said:
It is called latency and depends upon how far the signal has to travel, yes the physical distance might be small but the actual signal might go 3 times round the planet if they are using satellite connectivity.

Unfortunately we haven't found a way of making light go any faster than 299 792 458 m/s so you will just have to put with it.
Yes, I know that - but there can be a bonkers delay on our local BBC News from Manchester when the studio is talking to a reporter elsewhere in Manchester. I don't think the routinely use satellite vans now for that kind of stuff - they're probably using the mobile phone network so I suppose anything it possible with the routing of that signal.

FMOB

1,130 posts

14 months

Sunday 26th May
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Sheepshanks said:
FMOB said:
It is called latency and depends upon how far the signal has to travel, yes the physical distance might be small but the actual signal might go 3 times round the planet if they are using satellite connectivity.

Unfortunately we haven't found a way of making light go any faster than 299 792 458 m/s so you will just have to put with it.
Yes, I know that - but there can be a bonkers delay on our local BBC News from Manchester when the studio is talking to a reporter elsewhere in Manchester. I don't think the routinely use satellite vans now for that kind of stuff - they're probably using the mobile phone network so I suppose anything it possible with the routing of that signal.
Well latency in cellular networks isn't brilliant 100ms+ for 3G, 60-70ms for 4G plus what ever processing time is through the studio. I would also say the kit required to use a satellite link is now very small and easy useable by a person on their own.

It could even be down to a bit of kit needing a reboot, so many reasons for excessive delay.

croyde

23,202 posts

232 months

Monday 27th May
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I had an argument with a producer once, when she got upset that the pics of very important speakers at some conference in the Middle East kept breaking up and the sound cutting out as they had only paid for some 4g set up.

I had to point out that as everyone in the area would be using their phones (you could see them in the back of the shot, when we got a good signal) there would be no guarantee of a decent connection.

I suggested that if it were so important that maybe they should pay for a satellite link.

Next thing they called Reuters, who had a team in place, and paid up for a nice clean and steady feed, but still with around a 5s delay biggrin

I used to do live stuff with presenters around the UK for the BBC. You'll always get a delay depending on what and where the 'bird' was located.

Sometimes the delay is so bad I do wonder if we are bouncing the signal off Mars laugh

OzzyR1

5,786 posts

234 months

Monday 27th May
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Reminds me of this from last year, I love how quickly she switches to her "serious news presenter face" albeit slightly mistimed in this instance!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxxUjP2jDoM