PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat
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I've just finished my workout that I would have done tomorrow morning at 4.30am.
Rise and shine campers! Ran the same route as last Friday faster and went longer. Pace wasn't blistering bu I left my headphones at work so didn't have any pace notes. Anyway a nice 7.33k run down to 6min29 per km from 7.2. Random Friday picture to follow later but it's shower and uni time.
What would be the most I could achieve in a month? And what would be the best way to go about it?
I've been keeping within recommended rates of loss for ages now, and while I have achieved results, I feel as though a "sprint" at this point would be beneficial. I obviously don't want to kick my body into starvation mode (I recognize how hard this can actually be to do) or lose a lot of muscle mass.
What would be the most hardcore regime I could follow for quickest none counter productive fat loss?
I've been keeping within recommended rates of loss for ages now, and while I have achieved results, I feel as though a "sprint" at this point would be beneficial. I obviously don't want to kick my body into starvation mode (I recognize how hard this can actually be to do) or lose a lot of muscle mass.
What would be the most hardcore regime I could follow for quickest none counter productive fat loss?
I saw the carb backloading article and found it interesting. My diet is already quite low carb, particularly pre-workout. So far today I've eaten 88g of carbs, and I won't have any more before work out this evening. I could lose 22g immediately by not having an apple with lunch.
The only slight issue is how late in the day I train. Usually 6.30pm - 8pm meaning my evening meal isn't until 8.30pm most nights. Not really the optimal way to go about it.
I also know a guy who is carb cycling at the mo, he seems happy, so maybe it's worth me giving it a go. He's doing it based upon Tom Venturo - BTFFTM suggestions. Any other ones that people think are worth it?
I'm also unsure how these diets fit in with my running. I'm running about 40km per week at the moment. Does that affect things much? I alternative between training one day, then running, then training etc.
The only slight issue is how late in the day I train. Usually 6.30pm - 8pm meaning my evening meal isn't until 8.30pm most nights. Not really the optimal way to go about it.
I also know a guy who is carb cycling at the mo, he seems happy, so maybe it's worth me giving it a go. He's doing it based upon Tom Venturo - BTFFTM suggestions. Any other ones that people think are worth it?
I'm also unsure how these diets fit in with my running. I'm running about 40km per week at the moment. Does that affect things much? I alternative between training one day, then running, then training etc.
Edited by GBDG on Friday 9th March 13:30
Intermittent fasting works very well. My basic version is- no food between 2100 and 1300 then eat lots of what you want. I've lost fat, gained strength and appear to have gained lean mass too, even when training fasted in the morning.
Certainly the most effective thing I've tried, though I've not tried many diets. Also very simple (the way I do it, at least)
Certainly the most effective thing I've tried, though I've not tried many diets. Also very simple (the way I do it, at least)
didelydoo said:
Intermittent fasting works very well. My basic version is- no food between 2100 and 1300 then eat lots of what you want. I've lost fat, gained strength and appear to have gained lean mass too, even when training fasted in the morning.
Certainly the most effective thing I've tried, though I've not tried many diets. Also very simple (the way I do it, at least)
Sounds interesting - Do you follow a particular plan/programme?Certainly the most effective thing I've tried, though I've not tried many diets. Also very simple (the way I do it, at least)
GBDG said:
I saw the carb backloading article and found it interesting. My diet is already quite low carb, particularly pre-workout. So far today I've eaten 88g of carbs, and I won't have any more before work out this evening. I could lose 22g immediately by not having an apple with lunch.
The only slight issue is how late in the day I train. Usually 6.30pm - 8pm meaning my evening meal isn't until 8.30pm most nights. Not really the optimal way to go about it.
Save eating the carbs until after training! I'm trying to spread my carb intake out throughout the day (total ~100grams on non-training days) although training tonight at about 10pm so will eat more carbs tonight than a normal night.The only slight issue is how late in the day I train. Usually 6.30pm - 8pm meaning my evening meal isn't until 8.30pm most nights. Not really the optimal way to go about it.
And why isn't what you're doing optimal?
LordGrover said:
Low carb & high cardio do not mix. One or the other, or carb backloading, but doubtful with 40k/week.
You're trying to get a quart into a pint pot IMO.
Yeah, that may well be the case. I'm quite committed to the running at the moment, so would rather be patient and continue, than stop that for the sake of faster progress. You're trying to get a quart into a pint pot IMO.
Well, without wishing to curse myself, I think I've finally shaken the lurgy. Did a two mile run yesterday very slowly - 11 minute miles - but only have a stiff calf and achilles today, no ache.
Today, 13.4 miles very gently on the turbo trainer - fasted (all right, a cup of tea) before starting work.
Feel good, so I may do either a long stretching session or a short run and shorter stretch session after work, then back in the gym next week.
On the food side, I must admit I've always struggled a bit with rising and falling blood sugar when on a calorie restricted diet. In part I'm not in the habit of four or five smaller meals yet, but in the mean time, I'm loving ice cold seedless green grapes and dried figs. Provided I stay strong, they're a more than adequate replacement for sweets, my usual vice when I get the shakes.
Today, 13.4 miles very gently on the turbo trainer - fasted (all right, a cup of tea) before starting work.
Feel good, so I may do either a long stretching session or a short run and shorter stretch session after work, then back in the gym next week.
On the food side, I must admit I've always struggled a bit with rising and falling blood sugar when on a calorie restricted diet. In part I'm not in the habit of four or five smaller meals yet, but in the mean time, I'm loving ice cold seedless green grapes and dried figs. Provided I stay strong, they're a more than adequate replacement for sweets, my usual vice when I get the shakes.
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