Anyone else getting tired of it all?

[Tyre Smoke]

Just for a laugh I thought I'd see if I could book my booster jab, having heard all day about queues outside walk in centres and the website crashing. Anyway, I logged on and was told I was in a queue and they'd be back to me shortly with where in the queue and how long the wait was. Two minutes later, I'm 9700+ in the queue and five minutes wait.

Long story short, I got an appointment for next Thursday at 1010 seven miles away.

Purpose of this post? I'm pleasantly surprised that despite all the doom, it worked quite well. And whilst I'm ambivalent about the booster, I'm going to have it because I booked it.

[Welshbeef]

Phil. said:

As before, it’s all a load of carefully constructed lies and BS designed to scare people into having jabs and justify tomorrows vote on Plan B, whilst keeping what the government has/is really up to out of the media. Ignore and carry on

And again why do you think they are doing this?

Do you seriously think it’s a willing piece of self harm for every country in the world so the Rothschilds can own our countries debs and thus the countries.

[RSTurboPaul]

Welshbeef said:

Phil. said:

As before, it’s all a load of carefully constructed lies and BS designed to scare people into having jabs and justify tomorrows vote on Plan B, whilst keeping what the government has/is really up to out of the media. Ignore and carry on

And again why do you think they are doing this?

Do you seriously think it’s a willing piece of self harm for every country in the world so the Rothschilds can own our countries debs and thus the countries.

There is no logical reason why a country with a 99? percent injection rate in the most vulnerable groups, 95%+ antibodies across age ranges of 40 and up (IIRC), falling positive test rates, flat hospitalisation and death rates, and with the knowledge from the source country that Omicron is a mild infection causing very few serious issues and zero deaths of it, would be going all-out to fear-monger and panic the public into masks, restrictions, lockdown and more injections, instead of saying 'don't panic, take Vitamin D and get exercise to reduce your BMI, to get you in the best position 'just in case' and allow us to open the economy fully with the minimum of burdens on either the public or recipients of their monies'.


Unless, of course, the plan was to use it to get something else in place and justify something that they couldn't otherwise justify - like 'vaccine passports' (for an injection that doesn't stop transmission ) and mandatory injections (ditto), leading to targeted discrimination against a designated group of non-compliers (ref: Austria and soon Germany, and others as well).


When nothing makes sense from the point of view of 'controlling a virus' or Health, it is time to consider other angles.

[Tyre Smoke]

No. When this started they didn't know how deadly the virus would be. It could have been ebola-like. However, it has become apparent that it's actually a very nasty flu like virus that has been overreacted to on a massive scale. Now the only way to escape from the painted in corner is to make everyone take the flu+ jab and then they will be able to say that they've beaten it. But until then, the NHS is under extreme pressure, the Omicron variant is far more transmissible, and tens and tens of thousands have died with (but we want you to think, of) CV19. Meanwhile everything else is going to Hell in a hand cart.

[Welshbeef]

RSTurboPaul said:

There is no logical reason why a country with a 99? percent injection rate in the most vulnerable groups, 95%+ antibodies across age ranges of 40 and up (IIRC), falling positive test rates, flat hospitalisation and death rates, and with the knowledge from the source country that Omicron is a mild infection causing very few serious issues and zero deaths of it, would be going all-out to fear-monger and panic the public into masks, restrictions, lockdown and more injections, instead of saying 'don't panic, take Vitamin D and get exercise to reduce your BMI, to get you in the best position 'just in case''.

Unless, of course, the plan was to use it to get something else in place and justify something that they couldn't otherwise justify - like 'vaccine passports' (for an injection that doesn't stop transmission ) and mandatory injections (ditto), leading to targeted discrimination against a designated group of non-compliers (ref: Austria and soon Germany, and others as well).


When nothing makes sense from the point of view of 'controlling a virus' or Health, it is time to consider other angles.

We’ve had vaccine passports for years.

When we went to Africa there was a list of vaccinations you had to have else - sorry no entry.

[RSTurboPaul]

Welshbeef said:

RSTurboPaul said:

There is no logical reason why a country with a 99? percent injection rate in the most vulnerable groups, 95%+ antibodies across age ranges of 40 and up (IIRC), falling positive test rates, flat hospitalisation and death rates, and with the knowledge from the source country that Omicron is a mild infection causing very few serious issues and zero deaths of it, would be going all-out to fear-monger and panic the public into masks, restrictions, lockdown and more injections, instead of saying 'don't panic, take Vitamin D and get exercise to reduce your BMI, to get you in the best position 'just in case''.

Unless, of course, the plan was to use it to get something else in place and justify something that they couldn't otherwise justify - like 'vaccine passports' (for an injection that doesn't stop transmission ) and mandatory injections (ditto), leading to targeted discrimination against a designated group of non-compliers (ref: Austria and soon Germany, and others as well).


When nothing makes sense from the point of view of 'controlling a virus' or Health, it is time to consider other angles.

We’ve had vaccine passports for years.

When we went to Africa there was a list of vaccinations you had to have else - sorry no entry.

And you had to present those papers before entry into every shop and every eating establishment?

(And every public space, and every workplace, and open air markets, and... )

[yellowjack]

markiii said:

not "of", but "with"

Yup. I noted that too. Boris AND Fiona Bruce both very careful on the wording. "Make it as exaggeratedly scary as possible, while not actually lying, luvvies"

Meanwhile, out in the real world, "died WITH the Omicron variant" could cover anything between "teenage football sensation and England under-23 star contracts Omicron variant and dies within hours" and "centenarian in hospice contracts Covid-19 Omicron variant while on palliative care regime for multiple organ failure".

As for those seven hour queues for Booster jabs, and four-hour trips to Truro? Utter madness. Especially spending 45 minutes indoors in a queue at St Thomas' hospital. 45 minutes hanging around with random strangers breathing in the same air other potential Covid carriers are breathing out, in search of protection from Covid.

[survivalist]

GT3Manthey said:

Can’t see many abiding by the restrictions again after all this Tory party fiasco

Certainly no one seems to care about the current guidance. Mix of late 30s to mid 40s with a few 50+ and despite Boris’ grim warning that the majority of london cases will be omicron by the end of tomorrow, we have had no one cancel so far.

Attitude to the vaccinations has also changed. Most now just regard it as a way to reduce severity. 30s and 40s not fussed, most of the 50+ are booked in but not changing behaviour.

[Tyre Smoke]

Yep, that's me. As I said, I saw about booking my booster earlier this evening. It went smoothly and I got a local appointment for a week's time. Had it been 30 miles away and in four or five weeks, I just wouldn't have bothered.

[yellowjack]

Tyre Smoke said:

Just for a laugh I thought I'd see if I could book my booster jab, having heard all day about queues outside walk in centres and the website crashing. Anyway, I logged on and was told I was in a queue and they'd be back to me shortly with where in the queue and how long the wait was. Two minutes later, I'm 9700+ in the queue and five minutes wait.

Long story short, I got an appointment for next Thursday at 1010 seven miles away.

Purpose of this post? I'm pleasantly surprised that despite all the doom, it worked quite well. And whilst I'm ambivalent about the booster, I'm going to have it because I booked it.

Good. I hope it goes some way to preventing you from catching Covid or at least keeping you safe from serious effects if you do catch it. Most people I know who've had the booster dose have been OK after it. But my wife had a dreadful time of it, three days of feeling absolutely rotten, and even after a week she still has swelling in her upper arm at the injection site.

I got offered my booster a few weeks ago, a few days after my first offer of a flu jab. I haven't taken up either offer yet. I've not ruled them out either, but right now I feel like I'm safer NOT standing about for hours in a long queue of strangers. If I decide to have it I'll probably wait now until the bulk of those eligible have had it and the roll-out is in the "mop up the stragglers" phase...

[anonymous-user]

Unashamedly stolen from one of the other covid threads ….

Everyone obeyed lockdown. That wasn’t good enough.
People wore masks. That wasn’t good enough.
Vulnerable got their jabs. That wasn’t good enough.
Under 50s got their jabs. That wasn’t good enough.
Under 30s got their jabs. That wasn’t good enough.
Children got their jabs. That wasn’t good enough.

Now if everyone gets their booster, that will be good enough?

This doesn’t end until we say it ends.

I think some people need waking up!

[Dan_1981]

I get the whole covid isn't that dangerous for 99% of the population.

I also get the hmm we're not sure about getting the jab(s) as we don't know what they might cause long term.

I don't understand the whole thing around this being a gment plan to 'control' us?

To what end? And how?

Covid passports? Inconvenient, but not the end of the world... What do the gment gain from it?

Locking us down.... Again pain in the arse but WHY would the gment want to do it?

Repeated jabs.... If it's not to protect us then what are people suggesting are the nefarious reasons behind them?


Are people actually suggesting this is a shadowy conspiracy by the global elite to do.... What???

Or the government just want to confine us to our houses 24/7?

Someone explain to me....

[anonymous-user]

Dan_1981 said:

I get the whole covid isn't that dangerous for 99% of the population.

I also get the hmm we're not sure about getting the jab(s) as we don't know what they might cause long term.

I don't understand the whole thing around this being a gment plan to 'control' us?

To what end? And how?

Covid passports? Inconvenient, but not the end of the world... What do the gment gain from it?

Locking us down.... Again pain in the arse but WHY would the gment want to do it?

Repeated jabs.... If it's not to protect us then what are people suggesting are the nefarious reasons behind them?


Are people actually suggesting this is a shadowy conspiracy by the global elite to do.... What???

Or the government just want to confine us to our houses 24/7?

Someone explain to me....

Well it’s either incompetence par excellence or it’s sinister.

Either way, whatever you think, it’s certainly not about a virus.

[Dan_1981]

But sinister to do what???

[anonymous-user]

Dan_1981 said:

But sinister to do what???

I’m sure you could think of a few.

I’ll leave you with just one to get you started … move to a society where only those with a vaccine passport can do anything. Then only allow them access to those things they’ve earned enough credit for - such as air travel or a job…..

I’m not saying that’s what’s happening but it only takes a little imagination to come up with some ideas.

[Dan_1981]

garyhun said:

Dan_1981 said:

But sinister to do what???

I’m sure you could think of a few.

I’ll leave you with just one to get you started … move to a society where only those with a vaccine passport can do anything. Then only allow them access to those things they’ve earned enough credit for - such as air travel or a job…..

I’m not saying that’s what’s happening but it only takes a little imagination to come up with some ideas.

Ok. So you can only do stuff with a vaccine passport. I can buy into that as something that on the current glidepath could conceivably happen.

When you say 'credit' you're implying some new style of value system. Otherwise you mean money. Like today where only people with enough money can travel.

But that's an outcome.

Why do 'they' want this to be in place? The vaccine is available to anyone, not only the rich, or the super clever or any other subset of society? So which subset are they trying to restrict?

you are implying that the conspirators want to restrict anyone who hasn't had the vaccine.

But why would this be their target?

What are you suggesting the vaccine does or creates? Are the vaccinated going to become compliant slaves due to what's in it?

[Joscal]

Dan_1981 said:

I get the whole covid isn't that dangerous for 99% of the population.

I also get the hmm we're not sure about getting the jab(s) as we don't know what they might cause long term.

I don't understand the whole thing around this being a gment plan to 'control' us?

To what end? And how?

Covid passports? Inconvenient, but not the end of the world... What do the gment gain from it?

Locking us down.... Again pain in the arse but WHY would the gment want to do it?

Repeated jabs.... If it's not to protect us then what are people suggesting are the nefarious reasons behind them?


Are people actually suggesting this is a shadowy conspiracy by the global elite to do.... What???

Or the government just want to confine us to our houses 24/7?

Someone explain to me....

I’d love know the answer to this too, we’re already controlled by big tech. Our mobiles know way more about us than the the government will ever know.

I just can’t get my head around all the conspiracy theories and the fact people get these ideas online makes it even more absurd.

[Macroni18]

Dan_1981 said:

I get the whole covid isn't that dangerous for 99% of the population.

I also get the hmm we're not sure about getting the jab(s) as we don't know what they might cause long term.

I don't understand the whole thing around this being a gment plan to 'control' us?

To what end? And how?

Covid passports? Inconvenient, but not the end of the world... What do the gment gain from it?

Locking us down.... Again pain in the arse but WHY would the gment want to do it?

Repeated jabs.... If it's not to protect us then what are people suggesting are the nefarious reasons behind them?


Are people actually suggesting this is a shadowy conspiracy by the global elite to do.... What???

Or the government just want to confine us to our houses 24/7?

Someone explain to me....

Few things I can think of:

If a Bible believing Christian, it is getting people prepped to taking whatever the government deems necessary (mark of the beast) when the time comes.

If the elites want to control population, easy to do so with substances in vaccines that lead to infertility, reduce testosterone etc.

If this works out well, it shows that a world wide false flag can be initiated at will to get the population to do whatever they want. Next time it may not be vaccination but something else. People will willingly go under any restriction, all the media has to do is cause a stir (just like the petrol crisis).

They want to get rid of cash. Taxes can then be increased without any recourse for the general public. Banks can start charging to keep your money in their bank, again no recourse. Laws have been/will be passed for banks to dip into customer accounts if they fail. Laws will be passed to make banking quite restrictive for common public. Covid is a good one to help that along, many places no longer accept cash.

One world government/economy/control becomes easier when psychologically people feel the whole world is under some major threat. Those who don't obey govt diktat would be seen as problem makers & dealt with more and more harshly as time goes by. Again with covid passport and restrictions those are being tested.

Few others I can think of but hopefully you get the gist.

[Tyre Smoke]

This is really not the thread for conspiracy theories.

[Tyre Smoke]

Well, I have an appointment time, at a small village pharmacy. I'm not expecting hordes of people.