ADF - A diet that works and is good for your health!

[Tiggsy]

TameRacingDriver said:

I think I'll just carry on eating normal, healthy, natural food, when I'm hungry. Quite novel, eh? To me this just seems like another unsustainable diet - I'd be interested to see how many on here who are following it, still do so in a number of years.

Novel...but not natural. Unless we evolved with a fridge in the cave and meat stacked up ready to go at lunch time!

The nice thing about 16/8 is that it is completely sustainable.....I forget I am doing it! I just no longer eat till later in the day. I have no cravings, no desire to eat sooner.....it causes me no stress or thought. Arguably, it's easier than "normal" eating as I am out the door and off to work while you're faffing about with your coco pops

[Tiggsy]

egor110 said:

I don't understand how not eating until 2pm makes any difference?

If i eat 2000 cals over a day, or eat 2000 cals between 2-11pm i've still eaten the same amount of cals?

2 issues here:

1) Its far easier to stick to 2000 if you dont have any until 2pm! (if you've done 1,000 by lunch you're in trouble)

2) There is "potential" health benefits to fasting.

I do it because 1 works and 2 would be cool if its true.

[Tiggsy]

TameRacingDriver said:

As all "diets" are about calorie deficit, who'd have thought starving yourself two days of the week would work?

This is why the world is fat!

Not eating for a day...or not eating until 3pm is not starving!!! There have been studies on soldiers that showed very little lean tissue loss unless they were down to sub 5% body fat and still on 2/3k cal deficits a day - so "starvation mode" is pants.

You dont have to look far in nature to find animals (that eat meat) who go a few days without, then are able to exert extreme burst of energy and chow down on some food. Me not eating until 3pm, after my dead lifts....is more easily comparable with nature than waking and stuffing myself with carbs....then repeating every 3 hrs.

[Hoofy]

Carl_Spackler said:

Hoofy said:

We need someone to eat 3000 calories a day, do no exercise and practice IF for a month.

You called.

Ah. Presumably, you're overweight? If so, could you test IF every day for a month?

Rules:
1) Fast (overnight is easier!) for 16 hours (eg last swallow at 10pm = lunch at 2pm next day)
2) Eat 3000 calories a day
3) Don't eat healthily (unless you already do!)
4) Don't do exercise

Edit:
This is purely for personal interest. I am not a professional fitness trainer or nutritionist. You are completely responsible for your own actions. If your head falls off or you turn into a lama as a result of carrying out the above, I cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever (and neither does PH).

Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 7th November 20:41

[GlenMH]

Hoofy said:

Hm. It's tricky.

We need someone to eat 3000 calories a day, do no exercise and practice IF for a month.

I can't do it as my body will respond to it as it would a diet break so not behave in a typical fashion. (I did it before, eating whatever I fancied for a fortnight and didn't gain any fat.)

I am that bloke! I am just over 2 months in to 5:2 and have lost 4 inches off my waist and I am now thinner than I was 10 years ago. I lost ALL the weight I put on during a near 4 year binge in Japan in 6 weeks. No idea on the rest of the numbers as we don't own any scales....

[rudecherub]

I am that bloke.

Almost. Being doing alternate day, 600 calories one day, and then eat what I like the next.

Not doing much but walking the dog and throwing a ball, so not much.

Wasn't really fat to begin with, but since the start of the thread my trousers fit better.

[Hoofy]

So there we have it. Eat st and lose weight. (No pandas required. )

[Carl_Spackler]

Hoofy said:

Carl_Spackler said:

Hoofy said:

We need someone to eat 3000 calories a day, do no exercise and practice IF for a month.

You called.

Ah. Presumably, you're overweight? If so, could you test IF every day for a month?

Rules:
1) Fast (overnight is easier!) for 16 hours (eg last swallow at 10pm = lunch at 2pm next day)
2) Eat 3000 calories a day
3) Don't eat healthily (unless you already do!)
4) Don't do exercise

Edit:
This is purely for personal interest. I am not a professional fitness trainer or nutritionist. You are completely responsible for your own actions. If your head falls off or you turn into a lama as a result of carrying out the above, I cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever (and neither does PH).

Edited by Hoofy on Wednesday 7th November 20:41

5'11 and 12st 6lb.

I've been doing 2/5 for 7-8 weeks now, sadly, given I'm not puting any weight on I'm going a bit overboard on my eating days and therefore must be doing 3000/day (not counting due to the shame).

I'm actually getting anoyed because given my new found freedom in calories, I'm not eating very well (BK massive meal thing for lunch yesterday....the shame).

So ADF, keeps you slim but not that healthy.

[Hoofy]

Carl_Spackler said:

5'11 and 12st 6lb.

I've been doing 2/5 for 7-8 weeks now, sadly, given I'm not puting any weight on I'm going a bit overboard on my eating days and therefore must be doing 3000/day (not counting due to the shame).

I'm actually getting anoyed because given my new found freedom in calories, I'm not eating very well (BK massive meal thing for lunch yesterday....the shame).

So ADF, keeps you slim but not that healthy.

Now that's interesting. So ADF means you're able to eat everything you want and more on eating days. I wonder what your weekly intake is. Shame you don't log anything. Could you do that for a week accurately with calories per meal?

[Carl_Spackler]

Hoofy said:

Now that's interesting. So ADF means you're able to eat everything you want and more on eating days. I wonder what your weekly intake is. Shame you don't log anything. Could you do that for a week accurately with calories per meal?

I'll give it a go, got my fitness pal app on my phone.

I eat that much at the weekend I don't know if I'll have time to put it all in

[Hoofy]

My ongoing IF ( = ADF for lightweights like me) seems to be going well visually. I noticed muscle "senews" around the abdomen near the rib cage that grossed me out a bit this morning.

[GlenMH]

Hoofy said:

So there we have it. Eat st and lose weight. (No pandas required. )

TBH - if you watch the segment of the Horizon programme that dealt with ADF again, this was mentioned. She stated that those on a higher fat diet didn't lose as much weight as those on a lower fat diet (no st, Sherlock!) but they still lost weight.

I haven't quite got to the levels of stuffing in a monster supersized McD/BK meal - because I can! - but then I haven't shied away from curry (often), chocolate - a couple of twixes per week, packets of crisps - a couple of medium ones per week, and the odd pie or two. Lunches also tend to be "continental style": spelt bread, cheese, olives, a bit of salad, pate etc so not particularly low fat and I certainly don't pass by a full English breakfast if it is available!

And there won't be any excessive calories consumed @ BTAP this weekend....

[LordGrover]

GlenMH said:

And there won't be any excessive calories consumed @ BTAP this weekend....

You are herewith uninvited.

Excess is obligatory, as you well know.

[egor110]

Right i've decided to give this 'diet' a bash, i work 7.30 to 2.30-3ish so work fits in ideal with this.

Just to double check , i eat my last thing 10pm then the next day my 1st food is 2pm , so i'm only eating in a 8 hour period?

I've read some people are doing 2 low cal days , is this different to what i'm doing or a different system?

Weight this morning was 13.5 stone , so be interesting what it is next thursday.

[Tiggsy]

egor110 said:

Right i've decided to give this 'diet' a bash, i work 7.30 to 2.30-3ish so work fits in ideal with this.

Just to double check , i eat my last thing 10pm then the next day my 1st food is 2pm , so i'm only eating in a 8 hour period?

I've read some people are doing 2 low cal days , is this different to what i'm doing or a different system?

Weight this morning was 13.5 stone , so be interesting what it is next thursday.

2 ways to do it - 5/2 .....this is 2 days in the week where you fast. What you are doing is 16/8.....this is where every day is the same, as you say - last food around 10pm (I'm not too fussy and often eat later....1/2 pounder with chesse when I've had a big training session!) then you eat again around 2ish.

Unless work keeps you flat out you'll want something to consume while at work....for me its black or almost black coffee and sugar free gum (and get excited about that 1/2 pounder for tea!)

In the early days the hunger is tough but try this.....when you feel "hunger" check your watch and give yourself 30mins. You'll soon twig that hung comes and goes.....people eat because they think it will build and build - it doesnt.

[egor110]

I get into work 7.30 loaded up and out driving in the sticks by 10 so pretty easy to go without food at work.

Do have 2 coffee's with 1 sugar per cup though.

[Hoofy]

GlenMH said:

TBH - if you watch the segment of the Horizon programme that dealt with ADF again, this was mentioned. She stated that those on a higher fat diet didn't lose as much weight as those on a lower fat diet (no st, Sherlock!) but they still lost weight.

I haven't quite got to the levels of stuffing in a monster supersized McD/BK meal - because I can! - but then I haven't shied away from curry (often), chocolate - a couple of twixes per week, packets of crisps - a couple of medium ones per week, and the odd pie or two. Lunches also tend to be "continental style": spelt bread, cheese, olives, a bit of salad, pate etc so not particularly low fat and I certainly don't pass by a full English breakfast if it is available!

And there won't be any excessive calories consumed @ BTAP this weekend....

I don't remember the bit about fat. I am not bothered about eating fat or avoiding fat. Low fat diets are nonsense. I am surprised companies still advertise on their products "low fat". It's sugar that's the problem.

[GlenMH]

Hoofy said:

It's sugar that's the problem.

Yup - particularly stuff that is hidden in supermarket/processed foods: corn syrup, dextrose etc and all those other names for sugar that people aren't aware of.

LordGrover said:

You are herewith uninvited.

Excess is obligatory, as you well know.

You know that full English I mentioned above: 2 days on the trot - result!

[Hoofy]

GlenMH said:

Yup - particularly stuff that is hidden in supermarket/processed foods: corn syrup, dextrose etc and all those other names for sugar that people aren't aware of.

Now shut up about that yummy goodness. I've just started my fast.

[Tiggsy]

Hoofy said:

I don't remember the bit about fat. I am not bothered about eating fat or avoiding fat. Low fat diets are nonsense. I am surprised companies still advertise on their products "low fat". It's sugar that's the problem.

Companies do it because they know sticking fat free on a bag of sugar will retards to buy it, simple.