Lee's challenge part 2!

[Ordinary_Chap]

DownUnder. said:

Lee, really not trying to sound rude here but something about you confuses me.

On chest days you bench slightly less than me however your fly's are nearly double what I can do. Is there any reason for this or is it just a strong point for you?

Good progress by the way always enjoy the updates in this thread!

I have a unusual balance of strength to be honest and my coach has been helping me correct this. I think this is down to the very specific training I did in the military which has lead me to being unbalanced.

And thanks!

[RemainAllHoof]

Lost_BMW said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I've thought about straps but then I think if I don't push through it I may never develop great grip strength so I decided to suck it up!

Thanks for the advice anyway!

I'll shut up soon, I promise! But what about using straps to maximise the shrugs then another exercise/day to focus on grip through things like plate lifting. I used to pinch two 22lb or 33lb plates or a 45lb one and hold them/walk around the gym for as long as possible and time it to gauge the next workout/improvements.

Edited by Lost_BMW on Thursday 14th April 22:49

Find a pull up bar and hang from it by the tips of your fingers (as little of the fingers as possible) without doing anything else until you cannot hold on any more. Then hang there for another minute.

Or when you do your pull ups, don't use full grip; use just the tips of your fingers.

You'll feel a pump in your forearms like never before. In fact, it'll almost feel like your forearms are on fire. If you have a secretary, you'll be asking her to type for you the next day.

I suppose you could buy a fingerboard... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iik-u2UNr-w
Or more simply, a campus board rung: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ldW5Gh9ph0

Edited by RemainAllHoof on Friday 15th April 16:51

[didelydoo]

RemainAllHoof said:

Find a pull up bar and hang from it by the tips of your fingers (as little of the fingers as possible) without doing anything else until you cannot hold on any more. Then hang there for another minute.

Or when you do your pull ups, don't use full grip; use just the tips of your fingers.

You'll feel a pump in your forearms like never before. In fact, it'll almost feel like your forearms are on fire. If you have a secretary, you'll be asking her to type for you the next day.

I suppose you could buy a fingerboard... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iik-u2UNr-w
Or more simply, a campus board rung: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ldW5Gh9ph0

Edited by RemainAllHoof on Friday 15th April 16:51

I had a homemade 10ft plywood campus board when I used to climb, horrible things!- better than hanging from door frames though! I do miss climbing, been years since I've tried it....

[Ordinary_Chap]

Thanks for the advice chaps! I am keen to address the areas I'm weakest in!

I'm going to give some of these suggestions a go and I will let you know how I get on!

Lee

[didelydoo]

Ordinary_Chap said:

Thanks for the advice chaps! I am keen to address the areas I'm weakest in!

I'm going to give some of these suggestions a go and I will let you know how I get on!

Lee

I found the best thing for supporting grip was just lifting heavy stuff! The other thing that helped alot was timed holds with a gripper (heavy grips/COC's etc)- just close them and hold them closed for time. I didn't find the finger tip holds from climbing have much carry over to lifting (they are good fun though)

[RemainAllHoof]

didelydoo said:

I had a homemade 10ft plywood campus board when I used to climb, horrible things!- better than hanging from door frames though! I do miss climbing, been years since I've tried it....

Horrible in a good way, though?

[didelydoo]

RemainAllHoof said:

Horrible in a good way, though?

Indeed they are! I used to do all kinds of ridiculous dangling, hanging & pull ups on all sorts of things. Loved bouldering the best- under bridges, along the walls at the Uni library- anywhere I could. Excellent fun.

[Ordinary_Chap]

So tonight was auxiliary training.

Lat raises 3 x 15kg
Shoulder press 3 x 8 @ 25kg
Weighted calf raises 2 x 20 @ 60kg
Hanging crunches 3 x 8
Decline crunches 3 x 10

So here's a question to something that keeps happening and I've got no idea why. Why do my shoulders bleed and show marks below the skin when doing shoulder exercises?



Any ideas folks?

[RemainAllHoof]

Ordinary_Chap said:

So here's a question to something that keeps happening and I've got no idea why. Why do my shoulders bleed and show marks below the skin when doing shoulder exercises?

Because your shoulder is not embedded in its socket so is crushing the flesh above. I remember reading about this somewhere recently. The trick is to not relax the shoulders such that the joint is "stable" IIRC.

PS What's hanging crunches?

[Ordinary_Chap]

Thanks! I need to stop it really because sometimes they bleed quite badly and the skin turns black around the blood marks which is unsightly to say the least!

Hanging crunches;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6aWRJc95A&fea...

[RemainAllHoof]

Ordinary_Chap said:

Thanks! I need to stop it really because sometimes they bleed quite badly and the skin turns black around the blood marks which is unsightly to say the least!

Hanging crunches;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv6aWRJc95A&fea...

When I did "relaxed" dead hangs I noticed my shoulders ached like I'd been doing shoulder presses.

Re hanging crunches: Ah, thought so.

[Otto]

Ordinary_Chap said:

So here's a question to something that keeps happening and I've got no idea why. Why do my shoulders bleed and show marks below the skin when doing shoulder exercises?


Any ideas folks?

I think these are more likely from the calf raises..... was it a standing machine with the pads that rest on your shoulders??

I got identical marks the other day from my gyms calf machine. Guess I must have pinched the skin or something (i.e. if you have your arms raised and holding onto the handles for stabilisation).

[Pvapour]

Ordinary_Chap said:

DownUnder. said:

Lee, really not trying to sound rude here but something about you confuses me.

On chest days you bench slightly less than me however your fly's are nearly double what I can do. Is there any reason for this or is it just a strong point for you?

Good progress by the way always enjoy the updates in this thread!

I have a unusual balance of strength to be honest and my coach has been helping me correct this. I think this is down to the very specific training I did in the military which has lead me to being unbalanced.

And thanks!

looking at Lees images I'd say his front delt development is superior to his pecs, hence his stability & greater strength with flyes, weirdly military press would do this but have no idea if this is where the exercise got its name from or even if Lee did lots whilst in the military.

Good to see its going well Lee.

I'm down 2kg in body weight since the 2 week HIIT and revised diet, LBM, strength & vital measurement stable, 1.5% BF drop.

Done any reading yet?

got some software to track things, free demo had me buying. http://www.dietcontroller.com/

eta: agree on calf machine, i get the same, you can get it with shoulder press as well though if you have a tendency to drop the weight to your trap cushion.

Edited by Pvapour on Friday 15th April 21:54

[Ordinary_Chap]

Otto said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

So here's a question to something that keeps happening and I've got no idea why. Why do my shoulders bleed and show marks below the skin when doing shoulder exercises?


Any ideas folks?

I think these are more likely from the calf raises..... was it a standing machine with the pads that rest on your shoulders??

I got identical marks the other day from my gyms calf machine. Guess I must have pinched the skin or something (i.e. if you have your arms raised and holding onto the handles for stabilisation).

Good idea but I didn't do standing calf raises, they were sitting raises.

Some dude was hogging the standing calf raise machine for a shoulder workout!

[Ordinary_Chap]

Pvapour said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

DownUnder. said:

Lee, really not trying to sound rude here but something about you confuses me.

On chest days you bench slightly less than me however your fly's are nearly double what I can do. Is there any reason for this or is it just a strong point for you?

Good progress by the way always enjoy the updates in this thread!

I have a unusual balance of strength to be honest and my coach has been helping me correct this. I think this is down to the very specific training I did in the military which has lead me to being unbalanced.

And thanks!

looking at Lees images I'd say his front delt development is superior to his pecs, hence his stability & greater strength with flyes, weirdly military press would do this but have no idea if this is where the exercise got its name from or even if Lee did lots whilst in the military.

Good to see its going well Lee.

I'm down 2kg in body weight since the 2 week HIIT and revised diet, LBM, strength & vital measurement stable, 1.5% BF drop.

Done any reading yet?

got some software to track things, free demo had me buying. http://www.dietcontroller.com/

eta: agree on calf machine, i get the same, you can get it with shoulder press as well though if you have a tendency to drop the weight to your trap cushion.

Edited by Pvapour on Friday 15th April 21:54

Hey good to see you around in here, was wondering where you'd disappeared to!

Are you going to update your thread with your results?

[Pvapour]

will do but got 10 days to prepare an old disused farmhouse to live in at the mo, so a little busy

as much I can do to control diet & training tbo, still, some good fat burn going on

+ I'd like it to run for 4 weeks before entering as any misleading water losses will be balanced out

Edited by Pvapour on Friday 15th April 22:14

[Ordinary_Chap]

Pvapour said:

will do but got 10 days to prepare an old disused farmhouse to live in at the mo, so a little busy

as much I can do to control diet & training tbo, still, some good fat burn going on

+ I'd like it to run for 4 weeks before entering as any misleading water losses will be balanced out

Edited by Pvapour on Friday 15th April 22:14

Hey it would be great to see some progress pics around the new gym!

When I reduce carbs my initial weight loss is epic!

[Ordinary_Chap]

60 Mins SSCV @ 6am across the beach first thing.

Legs tonight.

Leg extensions 3 x 8 @ 70kg
Squat 1 x 10 @ 80kg, 3 x 8 @ 125kg
Leg press 3 x 8 @ 200kg
Reverse leg curl 3 X 8 @ 50kg

It all started well and after a weekend break I was feeling strong then during my 2nd set of squats my trousers gave much to the hilarity of everyone behind me. It was hard to finish that set with everyone including all of the girls laughing hard at me! But like a trooper I continued and by the end of the set of squats I'd gone from a small tear right round to being able to see my front lunch box area! ahem.....




Thats 4 sets of trousers in 6 weeks I've wrecked with my increasing leg size. I think my legs are growing quite well due to a complete lack of real training up until recently.

[okgo]

Having huge legs is very annoying. Just beware of how irritating it is to not be able to buy most trousers that fit your waist but are skin tight in the thigh.

[Ordinary_Chap]

So today was a Chest/Tricep day, I felt tired today and really struggled through the workout tonight.

6am SSCV - 1 hour on the beach

Tonight;
Bench Press 1 x 10 @ 40kg then, 3 x 8 @ 80kg
Incline flys 3 x 8 @ 30kg (dumbbells)
Incline dumbbell press 3 x 30kg
Tricep push down 3 x 8 @ 60kg
Dips 3 x maximum

I also weighed myself purely out of curiosity and I'm down to 88kg which seems to be a rapid drop, its clearly not fat that has been lost so I think I've probably run myself down with some excessive training. I'm going to have tomorrow off to rest I think!