PHat PHighters?
Discussion
dirty boy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Well depending where you are today it may be possible!
It's amazing the changes you can make in 2 months with the right attitude towards training and diet.
I'd caution you though, a lot of personal trainers in my view know very little. I learn't the most from hanging out with bodybuilders (previous to that I'd listened to 4 personal trainers). I'm not saying they are all bad, actually some are really good. Just about 80% of them are useless giving out rotten generic advice to everyone!
That's fair enough, but this guy has pretty much the physique I'd like, so I kind of think, if he shows me what he does, and I eat what he does less a bit, I can't go far wrong (albeit my DNA might have something to say about it)It's amazing the changes you can make in 2 months with the right attitude towards training and diet.
I'd caution you though, a lot of personal trainers in my view know very little. I learn't the most from hanging out with bodybuilders (previous to that I'd listened to 4 personal trainers). I'm not saying they are all bad, actually some are really good. Just about 80% of them are useless giving out rotten generic advice to everyone!
Will give it a try. Can't hurt. And in any case, I don't ever really see any approachable body builders at my gym.
All the best,
Lee
Woot! I've lost 10 lbs in two weeks, eating pretty much as I normally would since I eat healthily anyway:
Breakfast
Yogurt
Banana / apple
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Lunch
Sandwich / soup with wholegrain bread
Salad
4 squares dark chocolate
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Dinner
Oily fish / grilled meat
Salad / stir-fried green vegetables
Banana / apple
Snack
Handful of seeds / dried berry mix
Unlimited green / black tea (no milk or sugar) throughout the day; lemon verbena tea after 9pm.
No alcohol.
Breakfast
Yogurt
Banana / apple
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Lunch
Sandwich / soup with wholegrain bread
Salad
4 squares dark chocolate
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Dinner
Oily fish / grilled meat
Salad / stir-fried green vegetables
Banana / apple
Snack
Handful of seeds / dried berry mix
Unlimited green / black tea (no milk or sugar) throughout the day; lemon verbena tea after 9pm.
No alcohol.
Ok, yesterday's food:
Breakfast:
80g Shreddies
200ml semi skimmed milk
Lunch:
Tortilla wrap with 3 slices of pepper salami, 3 cherry tomatoes, 3 slices of cucumber, some lettuce and bit of onion, on a very thin layer of extra-light mayo.
Snack:
Dark Chocolate digestive.
Dinner:
Pasta (forgot to measure it - filled one standard size coffee mug), some tomato, basil and garlic sauce mixed with half a chopped yellow pepper and some courgette, and a diced chicken breast.
Drinks: Several pints of orange and mango cordial (weak mix).
As for alcohol, I drive for a living so generally if i'm at work the next day I don't drink. Even when I do drink it's usually only a few drinks. Very rare that I have the chance to get properly leathered these days. That said, a few weekends ago I went on the annual lads weekend - canal boat this year, and we estimated that between 8 of us we'd brought around 300 pints of ale and lager (plus cider, spirits and wines) with us to have on the boat. On top of this, there were several pub stops on the way, and pubs at the overnight stops. However I didn't gain any weight after the weekend, so maybe it's just buggered up the weight loss side of things for a bit.
Breakfast:
80g Shreddies
200ml semi skimmed milk
Lunch:
Tortilla wrap with 3 slices of pepper salami, 3 cherry tomatoes, 3 slices of cucumber, some lettuce and bit of onion, on a very thin layer of extra-light mayo.
Snack:
Dark Chocolate digestive.
Dinner:
Pasta (forgot to measure it - filled one standard size coffee mug), some tomato, basil and garlic sauce mixed with half a chopped yellow pepper and some courgette, and a diced chicken breast.
Drinks: Several pints of orange and mango cordial (weak mix).
As for alcohol, I drive for a living so generally if i'm at work the next day I don't drink. Even when I do drink it's usually only a few drinks. Very rare that I have the chance to get properly leathered these days. That said, a few weekends ago I went on the annual lads weekend - canal boat this year, and we estimated that between 8 of us we'd brought around 300 pints of ale and lager (plus cider, spirits and wines) with us to have on the boat. On top of this, there were several pub stops on the way, and pubs at the overnight stops. However I didn't gain any weight after the weekend, so maybe it's just buggered up the weight loss side of things for a bit.
GTO Scott said:
Ok, yesterday's food:
Breakfast:
80g Shreddies
200ml semi skimmed milk
Lunch:
Tortilla wrap with 3 slices of pepper salami, 3 cherry tomatoes, 3 slices of cucumber, some lettuce and bit of onion, on a very thin layer of extra-light mayo.
Snack:
Dark Chocolate digestive.
Dinner:
Pasta (forgot to measure it - filled one standard size coffee mug), some tomato, basil and garlic sauce mixed with half a chopped yellow pepper and some courgette, and a diced chicken breast.
Drinks: Several pints of orange and mango cordial (weak mix).
As for alcohol, I drive for a living so generally if i'm at work the next day I don't drink. Even when I do drink it's usually only a few drinks. Very rare that I have the chance to get properly leathered these days. That said, a few weekends ago I went on the annual lads weekend - canal boat this year, and we estimated that between 8 of us we'd brought around 300 pints of ale and lager (plus cider, spirits and wines) with us to have on the boat. On top of this, there were several pub stops on the way, and pubs at the overnight stops. However I didn't gain any weight after the weekend, so maybe it's just buggered up the weight loss side of things for a bit.
Scott, do you know what your BMR is? And do you know how many calories you're consuming against it?Breakfast:
80g Shreddies
200ml semi skimmed milk
Lunch:
Tortilla wrap with 3 slices of pepper salami, 3 cherry tomatoes, 3 slices of cucumber, some lettuce and bit of onion, on a very thin layer of extra-light mayo.
Snack:
Dark Chocolate digestive.
Dinner:
Pasta (forgot to measure it - filled one standard size coffee mug), some tomato, basil and garlic sauce mixed with half a chopped yellow pepper and some courgette, and a diced chicken breast.
Drinks: Several pints of orange and mango cordial (weak mix).
As for alcohol, I drive for a living so generally if i'm at work the next day I don't drink. Even when I do drink it's usually only a few drinks. Very rare that I have the chance to get properly leathered these days. That said, a few weekends ago I went on the annual lads weekend - canal boat this year, and we estimated that between 8 of us we'd brought around 300 pints of ale and lager (plus cider, spirits and wines) with us to have on the boat. On top of this, there were several pub stops on the way, and pubs at the overnight stops. However I didn't gain any weight after the weekend, so maybe it's just buggered up the weight loss side of things for a bit.
I think this is where I'd start with you.
Lee
Mobile Chicane said:
Woot! I've lost 10 lbs in two weeks, eating pretty much as I normally would since I eat healthily anyway:
Breakfast
Yogurt
Banana / apple
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Lunch
Sandwich / soup with wholegrain bread
Salad
4 squares dark chocolate
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Dinner
Oily fish / grilled meat
Salad / stir-fried green vegetables
Banana / apple
Snack
Handful of seeds / dried berry mix
Unlimited green / black tea (no milk or sugar) throughout the day; lemon verbena tea after 9pm.
No alcohol.
Good stuff! I wish I was seeing that sort of loss! I think I've lost about 3lb in 4 weeks! Breakfast
Yogurt
Banana / apple
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Lunch
Sandwich / soup with wholegrain bread
Salad
4 squares dark chocolate
Snack
Banana / apple / piece of cheese
Dinner
Oily fish / grilled meat
Salad / stir-fried green vegetables
Banana / apple
Snack
Handful of seeds / dried berry mix
Unlimited green / black tea (no milk or sugar) throughout the day; lemon verbena tea after 9pm.
No alcohol.
Right, time for me to put my embarrassment to one side and join the 'club' - might be a useful motivational tool.
Had lost quite a bit and gained a lot more fitness from early summer 2009 to spring 2010 - loads of faster/lighter training + diet based largely on protein drinks/bars and veg - then from Feb 2010 life went way wrong. Lost the gym, the daily care/rigour and the weight came back + (obviously) more. Started training again, though v. on-off over winter & spring but eating too much, justifying it dishonestly (neurotically?) as a means to retain muscle.
Guessed I'd be up to 23 stone but shocked to find I was an all time high - and probably winner of fattest poster on the thread, no honour! - of over 25 stone.
Cut back, but again erratically, on returning from holiday and lost 1/2 stone including days in ketosis so obviously some water weight.
So, started on Saturday the 6th of June on a proper planned approach averaging around 1500-1600c a day, with some lower, and a fairly low carbohydrate/ high protein 'clean' diet + changed the training and have lost another 12 lbs this week, without venturing into ketosis and trying to stay hydrated (a big problem for me as I never seem to drink nearly enough).
Will now stick to this lifestyle plan, rather than seeing it as a diet, and want to average 3lb a week once the initial drop slows. Assuming I don't lose all my muscle I want to get down to 15 stone within the next 2 years and then, if it feels right, stay there for the foreseeable. I'll keep count, (to account?) honestly, here fwiw...
Had lost quite a bit and gained a lot more fitness from early summer 2009 to spring 2010 - loads of faster/lighter training + diet based largely on protein drinks/bars and veg - then from Feb 2010 life went way wrong. Lost the gym, the daily care/rigour and the weight came back + (obviously) more. Started training again, though v. on-off over winter & spring but eating too much, justifying it dishonestly (neurotically?) as a means to retain muscle.
Guessed I'd be up to 23 stone but shocked to find I was an all time high - and probably winner of fattest poster on the thread, no honour! - of over 25 stone.
Cut back, but again erratically, on returning from holiday and lost 1/2 stone including days in ketosis so obviously some water weight.
So, started on Saturday the 6th of June on a proper planned approach averaging around 1500-1600c a day, with some lower, and a fairly low carbohydrate/ high protein 'clean' diet + changed the training and have lost another 12 lbs this week, without venturing into ketosis and trying to stay hydrated (a big problem for me as I never seem to drink nearly enough).
Will now stick to this lifestyle plan, rather than seeing it as a diet, and want to average 3lb a week once the initial drop slows. Assuming I don't lose all my muscle I want to get down to 15 stone within the next 2 years and then, if it feels right, stay there for the foreseeable. I'll keep count, (to account?) honestly, here fwiw...
Lost_BMW said:
Right, time for me to put my embarrassment to one side and join the 'club' - might be a useful motivational tool.
Had lost quite a bit and gained a lot more fitness from early summer 2009 to spring 2010 - loads of faster/lighter training + diet based largely on protein drinks/bars and veg - then from Feb 2010 life went way wrong. Lost the gym, the daily care/rigour and the weight came back + (obviously) more. Started training again, though v. on-off over winter & spring but eating too much, justifying it dishonestly (neurotically?) as a means to retain muscle.
Guessed I'd be up to 23 stone but shocked to find I was an all time high - and probably winner of fattest poster on the thread, no honour! - of over 25 stone.
Cut back, but again erratically, on returning from holiday and lost 1/2 stone including days in ketosis so obviously some water weight.
So, started on Saturday the 6th of June on a proper planned approach averaging around 1500-1600c a day, with some lower, and a fairly low carbohydrate/ high protein 'clean' diet + changed the training and have lost another 12 lbs this week, without venturing into ketosis and trying to stay hydrated (a big problem for me as I never seem to drink nearly enough).
Will now stick to this lifestyle plan, rather than seeing it as a diet, and want to average 3lb a week once the initial drop slows. Assuming I don't lose all my muscle I want to get down to 15 stone within the next 2 years and then, if it feels right, stay there for the foreseeable. I'll keep count, (to account?) honestly, here fwiw...
Welcome and all the best with the new lifestyle, have to ask HOW did you drop 12lbs in a week, that seems such a huge drop in a short space of time. Had lost quite a bit and gained a lot more fitness from early summer 2009 to spring 2010 - loads of faster/lighter training + diet based largely on protein drinks/bars and veg - then from Feb 2010 life went way wrong. Lost the gym, the daily care/rigour and the weight came back + (obviously) more. Started training again, though v. on-off over winter & spring but eating too much, justifying it dishonestly (neurotically?) as a means to retain muscle.
Guessed I'd be up to 23 stone but shocked to find I was an all time high - and probably winner of fattest poster on the thread, no honour! - of over 25 stone.
Cut back, but again erratically, on returning from holiday and lost 1/2 stone including days in ketosis so obviously some water weight.
So, started on Saturday the 6th of June on a proper planned approach averaging around 1500-1600c a day, with some lower, and a fairly low carbohydrate/ high protein 'clean' diet + changed the training and have lost another 12 lbs this week, without venturing into ketosis and trying to stay hydrated (a big problem for me as I never seem to drink nearly enough).
Will now stick to this lifestyle plan, rather than seeing it as a diet, and want to average 3lb a week once the initial drop slows. Assuming I don't lose all my muscle I want to get down to 15 stone within the next 2 years and then, if it feels right, stay there for the foreseeable. I'll keep count, (to account?) honestly, here fwiw...
Thanks for the above chaps. 
Diet has been/ will be based on the following:
Breakfast = small bowl porridge if at home and/or protein shake (water only now is saving me loads of calories and money!)
Protein shake 3 to 4 hours later or
Lunch being vegetable soup or Ryvitas or rice cakes and low fat cheese spread if home or protein source when at work (my hours and so eating times are unhelpfully erratic.)
Protein shake after training
Tea/ supper = Salad with protein source and maybe Ryvitas or rice cakes if v hungry/ have calories left in the allowance. This is the default evening meal. Occasionally will swap for soup or veg such as sprouting broccoli and low fat cheese spread.
Protein shake before bed
If desperate have an apple or rice cakes.
Varying between 1200c and 1700c (one day high) but may need to drop to 1000c to 1400c a day if/when I stall.
Exercise is 4 to 5 days a week - a mix of boxing, interval training and weights. Helps enormously!
Diet has been/ will be based on the following:
Breakfast = small bowl porridge if at home and/or protein shake (water only now is saving me loads of calories and money!)
Protein shake 3 to 4 hours later or
Lunch being vegetable soup or Ryvitas or rice cakes and low fat cheese spread if home or protein source when at work (my hours and so eating times are unhelpfully erratic.)
Protein shake after training
Tea/ supper = Salad with protein source and maybe Ryvitas or rice cakes if v hungry/ have calories left in the allowance. This is the default evening meal. Occasionally will swap for soup or veg such as sprouting broccoli and low fat cheese spread.
Protein shake before bed
If desperate have an apple or rice cakes.
Varying between 1200c and 1700c (one day high) but may need to drop to 1000c to 1400c a day if/when I stall.
Exercise is 4 to 5 days a week - a mix of boxing, interval training and weights. Helps enormously!
Pulse said:
Night Runner said:
Just bought a medium polo top, it fits!!!
In a world of win!
Bought mine ages ago. Still doesn't fit! Not long now though, I hope! Another month or so. I bought it as 'incentive' along with loads of other clothes!!! In a world of win!
Edited by Night Runner on Sunday 19th June 20:26
Night Runner said:
Pulse said:
Night Runner said:
Just bought a medium polo top, it fits!!!
In a world of win!
Bought mine ages ago. Still doesn't fit! Not long now though, I hope! Another month or so. I bought it as 'incentive' along with loads of other clothes!!! In a world of win!
Edited by Night Runner on Sunday 19th June 20:26
JakesterUK said:
Ahhhhhhhh, after dropping a stone at a fairly consistent 3lb a week my weight loss has completely frozen for the past 2 weeks despite not lapsing once and upping the exercise, I've not dropped a 1lb!
How the heck am I going to shift the other 5 stone.
Everyone gets to this point! It's good really, it just means its time to re-assess your diet and training. I've been at your point many times now!How the heck am I going to shift the other 5 stone.
If you want to list it here, I bet either myself or a combination of others can really kick start your fat loss again!
It's also worth considering if you're training with weights you could be gaining muscle! If you look at my thread, I'm about 2 stone lighter in fat terms yet my overall weight has gone up!
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