PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat

[BenM77]

I agree that Men need to be Men, be it taking part in competitive sports or lifting weights etc it is important to do manly things IMO. At work we have competitions like running to the top of the mill (10 flights of steps) with 2x20kg weights for time, or over head pressing lumps of metal for reps. Just random Nightshift boredom

I also agree that the better you look, the better you feel and it can help with confidence and performance, bedroom and boardroom

I will never agree with judging people who are overweight, maybe I am lucky to have met such a varied range of people but there is a lot more to someone than their body fat %. I have met and know complete pricks who train and aren't that intelligent and I also know overweight people who are bright and good company.

Judge on looks ? Not for me thanks.

[Ordinary_Chap]

Lost_BMW said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Good man, this is whats is all about.

I've a simple theory that for men to be the best they can be, they have an innate requirement to act like men and that means lifting big weights and staying in shape.

I mean lets face it everyone judges everyone else on their appearance and fat dudes get judged with the content they deserve because if you're fat then clearly you've got no respect for yourself so why should folk respect you? This is me being fairly harsh but I believe this is how many, not all but many see fat dudes. If you want to be successful in business where you need to work with people then you need to exude an air of success and that doesn't come from being the fat dude in the room. Not to mention those with healthy bodies nearly always are the ones that don't get sick and have tons of energy.

And on a personal level if you want a healthy relationship with your other half then you've got to keep the attraction levels high and lets face it I'm sure (although no direct experience ) that getting humped by a whale probably isn't the most fun in the world!

But pushing those bits aside when you look good you feel confident and when you're confident you're most likely to show the best you to the world.

Now the only remaining thing to sort out is your car choices!

I'm going to seem overly sensitive with this response and probably out of favour on here but that is a narrow and not necessarily accurate view, even if it would be shared by many people. Probably intended as an encouragement but a bit of a slap to some folk on here who are overweight.

I am fat (still) though don't particularly look like it in clothes - but don't go holding your breath for a transformation photo - because for years my activity/diet balance was way out of kilter especially in periods of injury but I've worked my arse off for 30+ years in boxing, karate, weights, circuits etc. and have more than enough muscle, strength, fitness and energy to get through life OK. At 50+ years old and 20+ stone I'd bet I could out last, out train, out fight 90% of men including those half my age and size.

I don't/didn't like my appearance and did feel embarrassed meeting new clients but if being the fat dud(e) in the room is a barrier it didn't hold me back in my career because people knew/know to judge me for my intelligence, knowledge and skills. Fatter than most but able to land jobs at a national level with only a handful in my role in the country and able to keep/move on from them when others fell or stagnated because fat as I was/am they knew I did what they wanted and paid for, and more.

I'm not defending being fat, I don't think it's good, I won't stay fat and it does show a lack of personal care and respect - and for those who don't balance it out with exercise/fitness a selfish contempt for the health costs others may well baer - but still the view above is rather OTT and not necessarily accurate.

Edited by Lost_BMW on Tuesday 14th August 20:48

It's just a reality plain and simple, people judge others by appearance before everything else. EVERYONE does it, its not unique to me or a subset of people.

I'm not stating anyone is a lesser person for not being in shape but I am saying you we are all judged by appearance all the time, every day.

Anything can be overcome and doesn't need to hold us back but the judgement is final. There's lots of fat guys who are incredibly successful in business but people still judge them just the same even if business doesn't necessarily require someone to be able to run a 4 minute mile. It always helps to present the right image if you wish to get ahead the easy way but you can still get ahead down the less easy route.

For instance I bought an old school Impreza recently and suddenly folk are calling me a chav or wideboy and a client even went as far as saying its not becoming of someone of my rank in the company, I should be driving a BMW or Merc apparently and that is simply another form of judgement. Will it hold me back? Absolutely not but are people judging me? Absolutely.

And as a reformed fat dude I know what its like and I know how peoples perceptions changed towards me when I got slimmer, looked healthier and sharper.

[Ordinary_Chap]

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Not to mention those with healthy bodies nearly always are the ones that don't get sick and have tons of energy.

Until you tweak a tendon!

Well nothing is ever gained without risk! And I'd prefer to live life rather than be scared of it!

Sure... I was being funny.

I am all for risk (threw in a decent job to start my own business, for a start).

Sorry dude, misunderstood and wasn't sure how to take it!

[Lost_BMW]

Ordinary_Chap said:

I'm not stating anyone is a lesser person for not being in shape but I am saying you we are all judged by appearance all the time, every day.

Post doesn't really respond to or reflect this comment though: "fat dudes get judged with the content[sic] they deserve"

[Ordinary_Chap]

Lost_BMW said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

I'm not stating anyone is a lesser person for not being in shape but I am saying you we are all judged by appearance all the time, every day.

Post doesn't really respond to or reflect this comment though: "fat dudes get judged with the content[sic] they deserve"

Yeah that was a little gung-ho and I did contradict myself there but there are some simple truths that we cannot get away from.

It was meant to be in the spirit of change and all of the points still stand but I apologise if I offended anyone with that which is a pretty brutal and probably a little unfair post.

Lee

[Lost_BMW]

Fair enough - I'm over it!

[Ordinary_Chap]

Lost_BMW said:

Fair enough - I'm over it!

Thanks man.

Lee

[Halb]

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Hoofy said:

Ordinary_Chap said:

Not to mention those with healthy bodies nearly always are the ones that don't get sick and have tons of energy.

Until you tweak a tendon!

Well nothing is ever gained without risk! And I'd prefer to live life rather than be scared of it!

Sure... I was being funny.
I am all for risk (threw in a decent job to start my own business, for a start).

Sorry dude, misunderstood and wasn't sure how to take it!

Deciphering Hoofy's one of jokes is rather like making love to a beautiful woman. A lot of hard and frustrating work only to be finished off by a damp squib and a feeling of disappointment.

[Hoofy]

Halb said:

Deciphering Hoofy's one of jokes is rather like making love to a beautiful woman. A lot of hard and frustrating work only to be finished off by a damp squib and a feeling of disappointment.

You're doing it wrong!! Or she's only beautiful due to beer goggles.

[Bolognese]

This is a great couple of vids from bodybuilder Kai Greene. Even if your not into the bodybuilding stuff he is a really interesting guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1pjY1mDAa8 Part 1

http://www.flexonline.com/training/videos/muscleme... part 2.

Part 3 is not out yet.

[theshrew]

Ive seen some of his vids he's good to watch comes over as a nice bloke but at times a little strange and he walks like he's st himself lol

Certainly puts in a lot of work and dedication to what he does. A lot to be learnt from people like this i think.

[Ordinary_Chap]

Bolognese said:

This is a great couple of vids from bodybuilder Kai Greene. Even if your not into the bodybuilding stuff he is a really interesting guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1pjY1mDAa8 Part 1

http://www.flexonline.com/training/videos/muscleme... part 2.

Part 3 is not out yet.

Thanks for posting, I will take a look later.

I love Kai's stuff and think he's a inspirational chap.

[didelydoo]

Kai inspired me to have sex with a grapefruit.

[LordGrover]

Hoofy said:

Is there any benefit to fasting for 12 hours?

YHM

[Lost_BMW]

didelydoo said:

Kai inspired me to have sex with a grapefruit.

You too?!

[didelydoo]

Lost_BMW said:

You too?!

Na, Bono is a tt....

[Bolognese]

Part 3:

http://www.flexonline.com/training/videos/muscleme...

[didelydoo]

Good article on Tom Hardy's training regime for his different films on Chaos & Pain should anyone want to read it.

[Halb]

That guy is such an awful writer! It's possible he has good things to say, but it's covered in so much crap it can't be stomached!

[deadmau5]

didelydoo said:

Good article on Tom Hardy's training regime for his different films on Chaos & Pain should anyone want to read it.

What's your view on whether or not he used steroids? The picture at the end with the back achne would give reason to suggest he did. What I found most shocking was that Bane only weighed 191 lbs; shows how the camera angles can be used to good effect!