Minimalist running.

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T40ORA

5,177 posts

221 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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MC Bodge said:
Up and Running?

I was pleasantly surprised by the knowledge of the chaps in a local Sports Direct -One of them said he had worked in a specialist running shop for a few years.

I basically tried on various shoes and chose the ones I felt most comfortable in. I decided against going straight to 'zero drop' and bought some Puma Faas 300, which I've been very pleased with.
I'll have a proper look, but they don't have s zero drop or minimalist category at first glance. I visited three local Sports Direct Shops and they all thought Zero Drop was a brand that they didn't stock!

Just returned from a week of skiing, and one of the ski techs noticed that I had minimalist shoes on and started chatting to me. He suggested some that he uses, so I will try to find some stocked locally so that I can try them - along with Puma Faas you suggest.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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I don't think having a shop that knows about minimal shoes is as important as conventional supported shoes. Just buy what feels ok and looks nice.

MC Bodge

22,019 posts

177 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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I'd agree. There's not a lot to the actual shoes.

As you won't be landing on your heels, you don't need big thick heel cushions or anti-roll technology. You just need shoes that fit you and provide suitable grip (and maybe upper support/protection) for your intended use.

ps. The Pumas were much cheaper than any of the shoes I'd been using for the past 15-20 years.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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Why is this topic in 'health matters' when the regular running thread is in 'sports'?

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

189 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
Why is this topic in 'health matters' when the regular running thread is in 'sports'?
I did wonder the same thing, but this is about a specific type of shoe and striking technique to help prevent injuries.

T40ORA

5,177 posts

221 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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OK, so I guess that I just have to chose a shoe with enough shock absorption to make me happy. And I guess that sizing will be the same as with traditional shoes.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Monday 15th April 2013
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T40ORA said:
OK, so I guess that I just have to chose a shoe with enough shock absorption to make me happy.
Yes, you shouldn't need anything like as much with a fore/mid strike.

MC Bodge

22,019 posts

177 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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InertialTooth45 said:
I did wonder the same thing, but this is about a specific type of shoe and striking technique to help prevent injuries.
Indeed.

my knees, hips and ankles have been great since I embarked on this venture.

The same cannot be said for my calves, although they had been improving.

On a slow, gentle run this morning, after about 1.5 miles, the right calf starting getting tight, then began hurting. I ended up walking home in some discomfort.

It had been cramping slightly at the end of Sunday's run, but after some rollering, massaging and a steady 20 mile bike ride yesterday it felt ok and I expected it to be fine.

I must have read the signs wrongly...

Take care of your calf muscles, folks.


Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

281 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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InertialTooth45 said:
Ayahuasca said:
Why is this topic in 'health matters' when the regular running thread is in 'sports'?
I did wonder the same thing, but this is about a specific type of shoe and striking technique to help prevent injuries.
Yes, running shoes and running techniques. Should be in 'sports' where other runners can see them and possibly benefit.

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

189 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
InertialTooth45 said:
Ayahuasca said:
Why is this topic in 'health matters' when the regular running thread is in 'sports'?
I did wonder the same thing, but this is about a specific type of shoe and striking technique to help prevent injuries.
Yes, running shoes and running techniques. Should be in 'sports' where other runners can see them and possibly benefit.
Most of this is in the running thread if you look back far enough.

Regiment

2,799 posts

161 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Anyone ever had pain on the upper part of their foot, where the laces are?

Not running this week at all just to give my feet a break but its annoying me, I believe it's more treadmill related than road running related.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Regiment said:
Anyone ever had pain on the upper part of their foot, where the laces are?

Not running this week at all just to give my feet a break but its annoying me, I believe it's more treadmill related than road running related.
I've been having something like this maybe. Its top-ish, maybe down the inside too, not intense but enough to be obvious and annoying. Only one foot for me and I think it's from being too tense and/or landing too forefoot.

I'm trying to land specifically more mid foot now and the last 2 times I've been out I've been totally bare foot to try to help my form improve. Did about 1.3 miles tonight with nothing on my feet, no pain yet.

MC Bodge

22,019 posts

177 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Esseesse said:
I'm trying to land specifically more mid foot now
That's the way I also went


Esseesse said:
Did about 1.3 miles tonight with nothing on my feet, no pain yet.
Ouch. What sort of ground sere you running on?

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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MC Bodge said:
Ouch. What sort of ground sere you running on?
Just on the road, mainly where a car tyre goes so there's less stones. I did about 0.9 miles on Saturday. My girlfriend thinks I'm nuts! silly

Edit: Check out this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSIDRHUWlVo

Edited by Esseesse on Tuesday 16th April 23:02

MC Bodge

22,019 posts

177 months

Wednesday 17th April 2013
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Esseesse said:
Just on the road, mainly where a car tyre goes so there's less stones. I did about 0.9 miles on Saturday. My girlfriend thinks I'm nuts! silly

Edit: Check out this guy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSIDRHUWlVo

Edited by Esseesse on Tuesday 16th April 23:02
Good video.
I've never tried it, but I'd imagine that you must need tough feet.

Having watched that chap's very smooth technique in slow-motion, I think I must still be holding too much tension in my calves. My shoes look very bulky compared to his (lack of shoes).



T40ORA

5,177 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Off to Excel today to buy some Puma Faas, probably the 300s

Damn, but I wish that I was running alongside ,y wife tomorrow.....

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Hi chaps,

Need some advice. Haven't run in over 10 years, have shied away from it for a number of years due to shattering my kneecap, leaving my knee very weak and sensitive to impact...

Well have now started powerlifting, and my knee strength is getting much better (wish my physio at the time recommended deep squats, it's sorted my knee and hamstrings out).

So, have just bought some Merrell TTrail gloves. Tried them on and they were so comfy I couldn't resist!

So, I would like to llearn to run.

Not for running sake, no desire to do 5ks or anything like that, but it would be a good top up for my cardio, and hoping will see further improvements in knee strength and hamstring flexibility. I work away so a good way to use the summer evenings in Zurich when I can't get out on the sea for some paddle boarding.

Have access to a park opposite the hotel, and a treadmill. Ideally 30 minute session, once or twice a week.

So - how do I run?

grumbledoak

31,609 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Sway said:
So - how do I run?
You could read the thread. One page ago:

Halb said:

Sway

26,511 posts

196 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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grumbledoak said:
Sway said:
So - how do I run?
You could read the thread. One page ago:

Halb said:
Cheers, I've been doing some reading on fore and mid foot striking, it appeals due to the improved shock absorbance protecting my knee.

Suppose what I'm asking is what do I do to get to the point I can run for 30 minutes at a 'decent' (whatever that means) pace? Where do I start, the treadmill at fixed speeds and distances? That sort of thing.

The furthest I've run for a few years is 50m...

grumbledoak

31,609 posts

235 months

Saturday 20th April 2013
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Sway said:
Where do I start, the treadmill at fixed speeds and distances? That sort of thing.
That's what I did over the winter. And today I went to find/watch the start of my nearest Parkrun. I plan to go and run along in two weeks. Summer is coming though, so outside will get nicer. And there are clubs if you like that sort of thing. Also from this thread, look up "100-Up" (same guy).