What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

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didelydoo

5,533 posts

212 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheJimi said:
I'm unconvinced that 5x5 is accurately described as a solid hypertrophy program.
I'd say it's a beginner/inter Strength program. I'd not say it's optimal for hypertrophy though.

TheBALDpuma

5,856 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheJimi said:
I'm unconvinced that 5x5 is accurately described as a solid hypertrophy program.
It's a bit of both. In the real world all resistance training provides strength and hypertrophy to some degree. 5x5 is down the middle, good amount of both. Enough volume for hypertrophy, enough load for strength gains.

TheJimi

25,142 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Aye, a halfway house, really.

Although, it definitely leans towards strength than anything else.

Per my point - you wouldn't describe it as a hypertrophy protocol.

TheBALDpuma

5,856 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Just had a thought... It would be cool to run a cars, coffee and curls meet at the gym. Early morning meet up, have a coffee and a chat, good drive out, come back and hit a training session, all home for Sunday afternoon. Proper chat in person rather than typing on the internet is always better for a decent discussion! And if things get heated there are dumbbells to throw at each other. hehe

Although I doubt there's enough people local who like cars and training enough hehe

Add in croissant for more alliteration and some tasty carbs

Edited by TheBALDpuma on Tuesday 30th July 11:17

TheJimi

25,142 posts

245 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Ooh. Croissants & coffee.

You're talkin' my language man.

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
TheJimi said:
I'm unconvinced that 5x5 is accurately described as a solid hypertrophy program.
It's a bit of both. In the real world all resistance training provides strength and hypertrophy to some degree. 5x5 is down the middle, good amount of both. Enough volume for hypertrophy, enough load for strength gains.
The muscle simply isn't under load long enough with 5 reps; 20-25 seconds depending on the lift?

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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I'd be up for a meet - so much advanced knowledge and experience in this group; it'd be amazing to train alongside some of you.

Unfortunately, I think we are probably one of the most geographically spread PH 'special interest' groups there is!

TheBALDpuma

5,856 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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V8mate said:
I'd be up for a meet - so much advanced knowledge and experience in this group; it'd be amazing to train alongside some of you.

Unfortunately, I think we are probably one of the most geographically spread PH 'special interest' groups there is!
Yeah it would be tough!

As for hypertrophy with 5x5. It's going to depend on a bummer of factors. Take a newbie lifter with an affinity for muscle growth. He will grow on 5x5. Take a seasoned lifter who does not out muscle on easily, he is less likely too.

5x5 is definitely enough stimulus to promote growth, but it won't work for everyone.

marksx

5,062 posts

192 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Thank you for the responses guys.

Plenty for me to digest.

(Also apologies for sparking a two page debate! hehe )


TheBALDpuma

5,856 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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marksx said:
Thank you for the responses guys.

Plenty for me to digest.

(Also apologies for sparking a two page debate! hehe )
Haha debate is what it's all about. Different views are interesting to chat about. The thread would be dull if all the posts were just people's training.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheJimi said:
I'm unconvinced that 5x5 is accurately described as a solid hypertrophy program.
It works very well for beginners. But not optimal, I agree.

ORD

18,120 posts

129 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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A meet up would be great, but we do all live sooooo far apart.

I’m in Surrey.

Also, I think I’m the weakest regular poster. That’s no fun.

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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ORD said:
A meet up would be great, but we do all live sooooo far apart.

I’m in Surrey.

Also, I think I’m the weakest regular poster. That’s no fun.
Nah - I am. But that would make me more keen to get amongst the 'bigger boys'.

knk

1,279 posts

273 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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10x10x100kg deadlifts with 60secs rest between sets.
I am blowing after that!

5 sets of hanging leg raises
5 sets of dips
5 sets of thumb-less dead hangs, all super-sets

Rest tomorrow. Well, nothing in gym, just 50mins of intervals running outside.

popeyewhite

20,221 posts

122 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
Obviously my example is just the bench part of a larger training program.
Obviously smile

TheBALDpuma said:
But hey, what do I know!
Well it's your profession, after all. Mine as well, as it happens. My MSC is exercise and sport science, I think yours is more strength and conditioning? Apologies if I have that incorrect.

popeyewhite

20,221 posts

122 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheJimi said:
Aye, a halfway house, really.

Although, it definitely leans towards strength than anything else.

Per my point - you wouldn't describe it as a hypertrophy protocol.
No you wouldn't..

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Was previously on 5x5 but I was close to my strength limit and wasn't recovering well, I'm 50.

Moved to a Legs, Push, Pull, 3 day split a couple of weeks ago, with slightly lighter weight, 4x8, feeling much better - almost back to the same weight on most of the core lifts, and easily PBd my deadlift, doing other good lifts with at least an accessory lift at the end, feeling far more rested, and able to work harder. Also my tendons are really thanking me too.

Funny how it works out when you chuck in a change.

TheBALDpuma

5,856 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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popeyewhite said:
Well it's your profession, after all. Mine as well, as it happens. My MSC is exercise and sport science, I think yours is more strength and conditioning? Apologies if I have that incorrect.
You're right smile

Where do you work and what do you do?

popeyewhite

20,221 posts

122 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
Where do you work and what do you do?
Manchester. Semi-retired martial arts instructor, run a few clubs. Have a number of private clients fighting/weights/running. Enjoying semi-retirement!
I recall you were building your client list. How's it going?

TheBALDpuma

5,856 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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popeyewhite said:
Manchester. Semi-retired martial arts instructor, run a few clubs. Have a number of private clients fighting/weights/running. Enjoying semi-retirement!
I recall you were building your client list. How's it going?
Opened my own gym a couple of years ago, going really well. Training everyone from gen pop, to club level athletes, to some relatively elite guys and girls. Everything from rowers training to row the Atlantic, to powerlifters.