What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

What training are you doing/have you done today? (Vol.3)

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Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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didelydoo said:
Strict GHR against a green band were really tough, first time trying that band, big step up from the blue one.
that green band is tough! I use it for dislocs. Did GHR today, used a 5kg disc...bu the band way seems good.

today was leg day, forst back for a while
jesus fking Christ, the tears

popeyewhite

20,086 posts

121 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
Opened my own gym a couple of years ago, going really well. Training everyone from gen pop, to club level athletes, to some relatively elite guys and girls. Everything from rowers training to row the Atlantic, to powerlifters.
Nice one. The exercise/fitness trade is a tough one to break into nowadays. I've been involved for 40 years - since before the internet and everything was word of mouth, and far less competition. Glad to hear it's going well for you.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
Just had a thought... It would be cool to run a cars, coffee and curls meet at the gym. Early morning meet up, have a coffee and a chat, good drive out, come back and hit a training session, all home for Sunday afternoon. Proper chat in person rather than typing on the internet is always better for a decent discussion! And if things get heated there are dumbbells to throw at each other. hehe

Although I doubt there's enough people local who like cars and training enough hehe

Add in croissant for more alliteration and some tasty carbs

Edited by TheBALDpuma on Tuesday 30th July 11:17
But you live the wrong side of the Pennines. smile

Leeds is 80 min drive for me, so doable. SMithy is your side too I think.

didelydoo

5,530 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Halb said:
that green band is tough! I use it for dislocs. Did GHR today, used a 5kg disc...bu the band way seems good.

today was leg day, forst back for a while
jesus fking Christ, the tears
Bands are way better for GHR IMO (providing there's a bit to loop them on)- the strength curve with bands is more uniform (actually places the highest load on the muscle as it gets fully contracted) but makes the movement hard through out the entire motion. With a plate it gets easier as the hams contract due to leverages.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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didelydoo said:
Bands are way better for GHR IMO (providing there's a bit to loop them on)- the strength curve with bands is more uniform (actually places the highest load on the muscle as it gets fully contracted) but makes the movement hard through out the entire motion. With a plate it gets easier as the hams contract due to leverages.
Have you got a video up to show how to set up?

didelydoo

5,530 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Halb said:
Have you got a video up to show how to set up?
www.instagram.com/p/B0TBkbIDz-8/?igshid=pftyl64o9m...


mcelliott

8,713 posts

182 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Really good back session tonight, seated and bent over rows with weighted pull-ups to finish, Sunday was mostly legs, felt pretty tired mainly due to a pretty tough bike ride in the morning, going to goa bit lighter on squats for a bit, the week previous I did 40 reps with 100kg as a finisher and suffered some type of anal trauma.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Oooof!!! I've hard of that happening!
didelydoo said:
excellent, ta man. Mine isn't a proper GHRmachine but more a hyper machine, but I make do.

TheJimi

25,044 posts

244 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Right, dumbbell bench press.

How do you do it? Do you bring the DBs in at the top or do you press straight up?

I've always brought them in at the top, but I've recently been experimenting with pressing straight up.

didelydoo

5,530 posts

211 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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TheJimi said:
Right, dumbbell bench press.

How do you do it? Do you bring the DBs in at the top or do you press straight up?

I've always brought them in at the top, but I've recently been experimenting with pressing straight up.
Straight up for me, likewise with any DB pressing.

Push>

Dips: 7x +85kg, 27x +30kg
DB Shoulder press: 40'sx 2xF, 30'sx 2xF
BHN Smith: 90kg x F, 70kg RPF
Rear and side DB delts: 3x F
Tri push downs 5x F

Decent.

Will be competing (bodybuilding) 4th April, so a few months left to push and grow before a 20 week prep begins mid November. Quite excited to actually get stage lean and see what I've built over the past few years!

At some point in the next month or so I also have an umbilical hernia operation, which will slow things down for a bit....


marksx

5,059 posts

191 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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TheJimi said:
How often do you train? How consistently do you train and do you log every session religiously?

Edit: a fiver says the answers are "not very" and "no" biggrin





Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 30th July 11:05
Can I have my fiver in the post? biggrin

I'll concede I've only been recording properly for a few weeks though.

(This is the point I show I'm the weakest guy on the thread hehe Though the weight doesn't include bar. Trying to make myself feel better. hehe )


marksx

5,059 posts

191 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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marksx said:
Can I have my fiver in the post? biggrin

I'll concede I've only been recording properly for a few weeks though.

(This is the point I show I'm the weakest guy on the thread hehe Though the weight doesn't include bar. Trying to make myself feel better. hehe )

I'm starting again tonight, using the 60% higher rep programme suggested above. Going to apply it to my other exercises too.

TheJimi

25,044 posts

244 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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marksx said:
TheJimi said:
How often do you train? How consistently do you train and do you log every session religiously?

Edit: a fiver says the answers are "not very" and "no" biggrin





Edited by TheJimi on Tuesday 30th July 11:05
Can I have my fiver in the post? biggrin

I'll concede I've only been recording properly for a few weeks though.

(This is the point I show I'm the weakest guy on the thread hehe Though the weight doesn't include bar. Trying to make myself feel better. hehe )

Before I send you this fiver, what are the answers to the question of how often you train, and your consistency?

Got a crisp five spot right here, but be honest biggrin

TheJimi

25,044 posts

244 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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didelydoo said:
TheJimi said:
Right, dumbbell bench press.

How do you do it? Do you bring the DBs in at the top or do you press straight up?

I've always brought them in at the top, but I've recently been experimenting with pressing straight up.
Straight up for me, likewise with any DB pressing.

Push>

Dips: 7x +85kg, 27x +30kg
DB Shoulder press: 40'sx 2xF, 30'sx 2xF
BHN Smith: 90kg x F, 70kg RPF
Rear and side DB delts: 3x F
Tri push downs 5x F

Decent.

Will be competing (bodybuilding) 4th April, so a few months left to push and grow before a 20 week prep begins mid November. Quite excited to actually get stage lean and see what I've built over the past few years!

At some point in the next month or so I also have an umbilical hernia operation, which will slow things down for a bit....
Cheers Ben smile

What's your rationale, or is it just preference?

It was actually Eddie Hall in one of his recent videos, who commented that bringing the DBs together is a waste of energy.

Which in turn lead to me experimenting.

didelydoo

5,530 posts

211 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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TheJimi said:
Cheers Ben smile

What's your rationale, or is it just preference?

It was actually Eddie Hall in one of his recent videos, who commented that bringing the DBs together is a waste of energy.

Which in turn lead to me experimenting.
Taking them in to the middle reduces the load on the muscles being used- pressing straight up keeps the weight away from the centre line, and thus leverages keep the load on the muscles you want to be working. Kinda like how a DB fly is easiest in the middle at the top, and hardest where the DB's are far away from the center line.

TheJimi

25,044 posts

244 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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Yeah, I mean, I get the mechanics of it, what's confusing me is that I find going straight easier!

Admittedly probably need a heavier weight to test.

I'm gong to stick with it regardless though and see how I progress.

Edited by TheJimi on Wednesday 31st July 09:53

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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didelydoo said:
TheJimi said:
Cheers Ben smile

What's your rationale, or is it just preference?

It was actually Eddie Hall in one of his recent videos, who commented that bringing the DBs together is a waste of energy.

Which in turn lead to me experimenting.
Taking them in to the middle reduces the load on the muscles being used- pressing straight up keeps the weight away from the centre line, and thus leverages keep the load on the muscles you want to be working. Kinda like how a DB fly is easiest in the middle at the top, and hardest where the DB's are far away from the center line.
scratchchin

Locking your arms absolutely reduces the load, and should be avoided.

But bringing the 'bells close together - though not necessarily so that they touch - certainly helps us hammerchewers to create a noticeable squeeze on the pecs. Straight up might be ok if your chest is already barrel-like, but for those still running to catch up, the positive squeeze is important, isn't it? It's like squeezing your arse cheeks together at the top of a deadlift.

ORD

18,120 posts

128 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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V8mate said:
scratchchin

Locking your arms absolutely reduces the load, and should be avoided.

But bringing the 'bells close together - though not necessarily so that they touch - certainly helps us hammerchewers to create a noticeable squeeze on the pecs. Straight up might be ok if your chest is already barrel-like, but for those still running to catch up, the positive squeeze is important, isn't it? It's like squeezing your arse cheeks together at the top of a deadlift.
My 2p's worth is that having the cue of pushing up and together probably engages the chest a bit more, but there is no point actually touching the bells together at the top. By that point, your arms are almost straight and there is basically no resistance on the horizontal movement.

You cannot press them straight up, anyway. There is always a movement towards the centre line because that's how our joints work!

didelydoo

5,530 posts

211 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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V8mate said:
scratchchin

Locking your arms absolutely reduces the load, and should be avoided.

But bringing the 'bells close together - though not necessarily so that they touch - certainly helps us hammerchewers to create a noticeable squeeze on the pecs. Straight up might be ok if your chest is already barrel-like, but for those still running to catch up, the positive squeeze is important, isn't it? It's like squeezing your arse cheeks together at the top of a deadlift.
It's a pressing motion, there is obviously some inward movement as the arms extend, that's just the motion of the press- but near the top, what good will pulling the DBs' further in do? It's the same reason pretty much all pressing machines have you moving straight rather than into the middle too- you can handle a bigger load in that plane. For a squeeze, do flys/crossovers/pec dec IMO

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Wednesday 31st July 2019
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didelydoo said:
V8mate said:
scratchchin

Locking your arms absolutely reduces the load, and should be avoided.

But bringing the 'bells close together - though not necessarily so that they touch - certainly helps us hammerchewers to create a noticeable squeeze on the pecs. Straight up might be ok if your chest is already barrel-like, but for those still running to catch up, the positive squeeze is important, isn't it? It's like squeezing your arse cheeks together at the top of a deadlift.
It's a pressing motion, there is obviously some inward movement as the arms extend, that's just the motion of the press- but near the top, what good will pulling the DBs' further in do? It's the same reason pretty much all pressing machines have you moving straight rather than into the middle too- you can handle a bigger load in that plane. For a squeeze, do flys/crossovers/pec dec IMO
Yep - that's all very fair comment.