Anyone going to have a weight loss New Year's Resolution?

Anyone going to have a weight loss New Year's Resolution?

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Regiment

2,799 posts

161 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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atom111 said:
I love the concept of your diet but I wouldn't smile I look forward to the scientific results smile

I lost 30lbs back half of 2012 through less calories, more exercise and better choices with my better awareness of calories, haven't cut anything out particularly still eat out and eat what I enjoy just better choices and portions.

It's not rocket science and am probably the lightest I have been for 15years, the issue now Is I have a very small selection of fitting clothes, but that's a good problem to have.

Good luck with your diet.
This is exactly how I'm losing weight and body fat, a lot more cardio along with my weights, eating a little less and eating a little better. With how much I eat though, I still probably eat bigger portions than a lot of people I work with.

Did have to go out a buy all new clothes though.

atom111

1,035 posts

227 months

Saturday 29th December 2012
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Hoofy said:
Firstly, I'm not dieting next year. I am bulking.

So you lost weight eating the same but less food? Good. That's what I want to hear.
Pretty much just better choices, smaller portions and exercise

DukeDickson

4,721 posts

215 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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Hoofy said:
Ah, never heard of them being called liquid cream cakes. biggrin

The problem is that people think healthy eating and eating to lose weight are the same thing. It's as simple as that. And then people get confused when they eat a lot of healthy food (nothing wrong with pasta salads - just that they have a lot of calories which is fine if you are still on a deficit).

I've spent the last year eating healthy and unhealthy food (from salads to weekly fish and chips, pies, sponge puddings etc) and lost weight. Maybe 70% of my calories came from fattening foods. So either I've defied the laws of physics or...
Beer, along with pie, is a stupendous way to get larger. I speak from experience frown.
Of course it more than likely isn't going to be the right kind of expansion, unless tiny to start off with. Hence liquid cream cakes smile

The biggest problem most face is lack of understanding, misinformation and the like, hence why Weightwatchers works so often. I guess you could also chuck exercise difficulties into that (e.g. my skeleton simply won't play ball, so can't run for one). Plus, leave at 8 & get home at 8 never helps.

So, you go on a diet (fad or not) and you get your pasta salad (because that's healthy). Problem is that some of them would give a kebab a run for the money, but don't ever appear to be that nasty. Fault on that front would be a vaguely interesting question.

Then the metabolism luck stuff makes it all that little bit harder. I just got the wrong half frown


Hoofy

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Sunday 30th December 2012
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DukeDickson said:
Beer, along with pie, is a stupendous way to get larger. I speak from experience frown.
Of course it more than likely isn't going to be the right kind of expansion, unless tiny to start off with. Hence liquid cream cakes smile

The biggest problem most face is lack of understanding, misinformation and the like, hence why Weightwatchers works so often. I guess you could also chuck exercise difficulties into that (e.g. my skeleton simply won't play ball, so can't run for one). Plus, leave at 8 & get home at 8 never helps.

So, you go on a diet (fad or not) and you get your pasta salad (because that's healthy). Problem is that some of them would give a kebab a run for the money, but don't ever appear to be that nasty. Fault on that front would be a vaguely interesting question.

Then the metabolism luck stuff makes it all that little bit harder. I just got the wrong half frown
I can't quite make out what you're saying.

One beer (200 calories tops) and one pie (700 calories?) a day will make you a lean person. It's the second, third and fourth beer (+600) with the large portion of chips (+800), the huge full English breakfast (+1000) you had that morning and the kingsized Mars Bar (+500) and share bag of crisps (+500) that you also devoured that stops you being lean.

Gwagon111

4,422 posts

163 months

Sunday 30th December 2012
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Hoofy said:
I can't quite make out what you're saying.

One beer (200 calories tops) and one pie (700 calories?) a day will make you a lean person. It's the second, third and fourth beer (+600) with the large portion of chips (+800), the huge full English breakfast (+1000) you had that morning and the kingsized Mars Bar (+500) and share bag of crisps (+500) that you also devoured that stops you being lean.
I very rarely eat anything these days without first checking the calorie content first. It's always the snacky bits you consume whilst waiting for your meal to cook etc. that do you in. I know so many people who quite easily consume 1500+ calories, whilst waiting for their 'weight watchers' type meal to cook. Then they bang on about their metabolism, or their gland problem, or some such stuff, being the cause of their weight gain rofl.

Hoofy

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Sunday 30th December 2012
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Gwagon111 said:
I very rarely eat anything these days without first checking the calorie content first. It's always the snacky bits you consume whilst waiting for your meal to cook etc. that do you in. I know so many people who quite easily consume 1500+ calories, whilst waiting for their 'weight watchers' type meal to cook. Then they bang on about their metabolism, or their gland problem, or some such stuff, being the cause of their weight gain rofl.
1500 of snacking is some going!

Gwagon111

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Sunday 30th December 2012
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Hoofy said:
1500 of snacking is some going!
Last night, one of my buddies spent all night on the real ales, then assorted cocktails. Then he stopped off at the kebab house over the road and ordered a relatively healthy chicken shish, with no extras eek. While he waited he necked an onion bhaji the size of an elephant testicle, and a Samosa, and a 2 litre bottle of Coke. He was being healthy though, he was only having a small chicken shish rolleyeshehe.

Hoofy

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Sunday 30th December 2012
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Jesus wept.

ambuletz

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183 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Well so far today I've had a yoghurt for breakfast, did 40min on the CT at the gym and burned about 400cals.
Lunch was McD's, Big tasty burger, 9nuggets + BBQ sauce.
Total calorie intake for today is 1337 so far.

Hoofy

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Thursday 3rd January 2013
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ambuletz said:
Total calorie intake for today is 1337 so far.
H4ck3r D13t!

ambuletz

10,837 posts

183 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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I did chuckle once I saw the calculation. biggrin

amare32

2,417 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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I haven't tried the 'eat crap but keep it under 700-1000 cals a day' or 'fast like an Ethiopian' options either. There are many of us who take in a substantial amount of (healthy) calories a day but need it because of the training we do.

Most days, I will go through 2,500+ cals a day not only to maintain but to build as my goal for 2013 is to add another 5kg of lean mass whilst staying within the 5-6% bodyfat range.

Reading so many opinions here the general consensus is that fasting seems to be the trend a lot is following - most is following this method to achieve weight loss rather than trying to achieve a healthier muscle to fat composition. I'm sure by doing this, you'll end up more 'skinny fat' than someone who is more built like a Chris Hemsworth in Thor or Daniel Craig James Bond physique - which people want but want to take a shortcut nor willing to put in the work to try and achieve it.



Hoofy

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Thursday 3rd January 2013
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amare32 said:
Most days, I will go through 2,500+ cals a day not only to maintain but to build as my goal for 2013 is to add another 5kg of lean mass whilst staying within the 5-6% bodyfat range.

Reading so many opinions here the general consensus is that fasting seems to be the trend a lot is following - most is following this method to achieve weight loss rather than trying to achieve a healthier muscle to fat composition. I'm sure by doing this, you'll end up more 'skinny fat' than someone who is more built like a Chris Hemsworth in Thor or Daniel Craig James Bond physique - which people want but want to take a shortcut nor willing to put in the work to try and achieve it.
1) Tell me more about how you plan to build LBM while keeping the fat off? Will you be measuring everything carefully to ensure you don't under-eat nor over-eat? Also, how do you factor in tennis etc? I mean it's quite heavy cardio-vascular work so won't you risk burning LBM? (I'm asking because my NY goal is to increase LBM hence now eating more and reducing cardio-vascular work.)

2) When people talk about weight loss, they don't care about being "skinny fat" - they just want to weigh less.

Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 3rd January 17:31

amare32

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225 months

Thursday 3rd January 2013
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Hoofy said:
1) Tell me more about how you plan to build LBM while keeping the fat off? Will you be measuring everything carefully to ensure you don't under-eat nor over-eat? Also, how do you factor in tennis etc? I mean it's quite heavy cardio-vascular work so won't you risk burning LBM? (I'm asking because my NY goal is to increase LBM hence now eating more and reducing cardio-vascular work.)

2) When people talk about weight loss, they don't care about being "skinny fat" - they just want to weigh less.

Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 3rd January 17:31
1. After training for close to 20 years (I'm 35), I've come to work out through trial and error over the years what works best for me. I keep a close eye on what I consume calorie wise and simply adjust what I eat according to how much gym work I do versus amount of cardio from tennis or other sports.

It is a tightrope getting the balance of the right amount of cardio-vascular work so it wouldn't compromise the work I put in the weight room.

I train in cycles (known commonly as periodisation) which breaks up my training in many training blocks. In the winter/off season (6-8 weeks), where I'll do the majority of my training in the gym to build LBM and prepare with a mix of circuits and isolation for the tennis season ahead (I normally play less tennis/cardio). From then on, it's onto the next 6 weeks on maximum strength training where compounds forms the basis of my training (again only no more than 1/2 hours cardio a week), this is when I'll be looking to add the LBM and eating like a horse biggrin

Then onto the 3rd phase where I'll dial down on the strength training and work on the court/gym on converting to power & strength endurance. The work I do in this phase is tennis specific with a lot of plyometrics and sprint training on working on explosiveness - this is normally where I'll lose some LBH due the significant increased amount of cardio.

Last phase is when I'll be doing the majority of my work on the tennis court to work on technical aspects and playing tennis. I'll still do some gym work but it's merely to maintain what I've built and introduce resistance bands for injury prevention with particular emphasis on shoulders/rotator cuff.

2. Fair enough that people may want to lose weight simply for health benefits which is a good thing, however if they want to beef up and get ripped to attain the 'Hollywood' look then, it'll be difficult to obtain without eating right and putting in the resistance work.

Hoofy

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Thursday 3rd January 2013
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amare32 said:
1. After training for close to 20 years (I'm 35), I've come to work out through trial and error over the years what works best for me. I keep a close eye on what I consume calorie wise and simply adjust what I eat according to how much gym work I do versus amount of cardio from tennis or other sports.

It is a tightrope getting the balance of the right amount of cardio-vascular work so it wouldn't compromise the work I put in the weight room.

I train in cycles (known commonly as periodisation) which breaks up my training in many training blocks. In the winter/off season (6-8 weeks), where I'll do the majority of my training in the gym to build LBM and prepare with a mix of circuits and isolation for the tennis season ahead (I normally play less tennis/cardio). From then on, it's onto the next 6 weeks on maximum strength training where compounds forms the basis of my training (again only no more than 1/2 hours cardio a week), this is when I'll be looking to add the LBM and eating like a horse biggrin

Then onto the 3rd phase where I'll dial down on the strength training and work on the court/gym on converting to power & strength endurance. The work I do in this phase is tennis specific with a lot of plyometrics and sprint training on working on explosiveness - this is normally where I'll lose some LBH due the significant increased amount of cardio.

Last phase is when I'll be doing the majority of my work on the tennis court to work on technical aspects and playing tennis. I'll still do some gym work but it's merely to maintain what I've built and introduce resistance bands for injury prevention with particular emphasis on shoulders/rotator cuff.

2. Fair enough that people may want to lose weight simply for health benefits which is a good thing, however if they want to beef up and get ripped to attain the 'Hollywood' look then, it'll be difficult to obtain without eating right and putting in the resistance work.
1) Ah. Cool. That's how I imagined things would be really. I guess your desire to keep your BF% low is something that other athletes don't really worry about which means you have to tread more carefully wrt food.

2) Yes, assuming they even want that. Most people are at the other end of the fitness spectrum to you and just want to lose weight.

Badgerboy

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194 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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Ordinary_Chap said:
In 18 months you could make absolutely startling changes to not just your body but also your health with exercise and diet.

Have a look at what is possible in far shorter periods of time; http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=140...
Superb link, thanks for that.

I've saved the following image, I will certainly be using it for inspiration! I'm already following roughly his plan, but will adjust it and see how it goes.

http://i.imgur.com/YW6eK.jpg

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

245 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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Badgerboy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
In 18 months you could make absolutely startling changes to not just your body but also your health with exercise and diet.

Have a look at what is possible in far shorter periods of time; http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=140...
Superb link, thanks for that.

I've saved the following image, I will certainly be using it for inspiration! I'm already following roughly his plan, but will adjust it and see how it goes.

http://i.imgur.com/YW6eK.jpg
Good stuff!

When I need inspiration I watch videos, listen to music and look at things like that!

Lee

Hoofy

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284 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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How badly do you want it? http://youtu.be/lsSC2vx7zFQ

ambuletz

10,837 posts

183 months

Friday 4th January 2013
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Damn this thread. McDs again today. 1300cals. though I'm unsure how many cals my bran flakes in the morning was, probably 300-400. That transformation thread is quite inspirational I have to say, I just hope I can achieve something similar to what most people have done there. So far I've only found 1 person with a similar height/weight to me that I can serve as a visual guide for how I'll look at certain lower weights.

Hoofy

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Friday 4th January 2013
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As long as you eat within your calorie goals you will lose weight.