Have you ever had a nail fall off ?
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Eddh said:
illmonkey said:
*nasty story alert*
I had an ingrowning nail for 2 years, kept getting drugs which didnt work. Then a nice lady used to cut some of the nail off to stop it ingrowing for 2weeks for some pain relief.
I got fed up after 4 or so visits so went back to doctors said i want it out.
Fast forward best part of a month. Im called into the surgery, lie down, shoe and sock off. 2 MASSIVE needles to the bone either side of said nail to numb the pain. They give it 10 minutes.
Doctor seems to of mislaid his tools and picks up some plyers instead, he couldnt pull my nail out with thos... OH MY GOD he bloody is.
All i can feel is tearing and braking and tugging on my toe (making feel sick remembering), finally, POP. Nails off, but they are not finished!
Que scalpel, cuts some of the skin from the nail bed out, to stop it growning back on one side. Finally finished, need to take a week off work and litreally have my foot up all week. Had to shower with shopping bag on foot and redress every 4 hours due to bleeding.
Nail grows back, which it was ment to do, but this time leaning to the left as there is nothing on the other side for it to get set in. Yey, the other side is now ingrowing.
Go to the GP, say get rid of it for good. This time a more plesent experience. Needles hurt a bugger, but they worked this time as i asked the guy when he was starting and he showed me my nail. He covered my nail bed in silver nitrate (i think) and it's never grown back.
By the way, a nail grows about 1 CM under the skin where you cant see it. I also have pics if people want to see my nail, removed...
Have also had the same done on both big toes. Had the nails chemically killed so they didnt grow back, had it done the first time and didnt watch. Watched the second time and wished I hadn't!!I had an ingrowning nail for 2 years, kept getting drugs which didnt work. Then a nice lady used to cut some of the nail off to stop it ingrowing for 2weeks for some pain relief.
I got fed up after 4 or so visits so went back to doctors said i want it out.
Fast forward best part of a month. Im called into the surgery, lie down, shoe and sock off. 2 MASSIVE needles to the bone either side of said nail to numb the pain. They give it 10 minutes.
Doctor seems to of mislaid his tools and picks up some plyers instead, he couldnt pull my nail out with thos... OH MY GOD he bloody is.
All i can feel is tearing and braking and tugging on my toe (making feel sick remembering), finally, POP. Nails off, but they are not finished!
Que scalpel, cuts some of the skin from the nail bed out, to stop it growning back on one side. Finally finished, need to take a week off work and litreally have my foot up all week. Had to shower with shopping bag on foot and redress every 4 hours due to bleeding.
Nail grows back, which it was ment to do, but this time leaning to the left as there is nothing on the other side for it to get set in. Yey, the other side is now ingrowing.
Go to the GP, say get rid of it for good. This time a more plesent experience. Needles hurt a bugger, but they worked this time as i asked the guy when he was starting and he showed me my nail. He covered my nail bed in silver nitrate (i think) and it's never grown back.
By the way, a nail grows about 1 CM under the skin where you cant see it. I also have pics if people want to see my nail, removed...
Edited by Eddh on Thursday 3rd July 15:42
But the time I had an ingrowing toenail, I had heard all the horror stories of needles under the nail / Pliers etc and not liking doctors I decided I'd do it myself.
Sterile scalpel and 10 mins later I'd removed the spike of nail digging into my toe and have never had it return.
But if you want really gross, when I was 14 I fell down some stairs and banged my head fairly hard at the bottom, first reaction was to put my hand up to my head, and my first though was 'where has my hair gone?' Only when the blood started running down my face did I realise I'd almost scalped myself and was presently touching my own skull.
During the inevitable trip to a&e the doctor didn't need to do an x-ray he merely pulled the flaps of my scalp back to check I hadn't fractured my skull.
Oh happy days!
illmonkey said:
Dave_ST220 said:
illmonkey said:
Dave_ST220 said:
So they cut into the toe?(into where the nail comes from so's to speak?)
well when they ripped it out, the hiddne bit of the nail came out. about 1cm of it. then he cut the external skin (deep) to remove nail bed which you cant see. Removing the nail bed will stop it growning back. When the second doctor put the silver stuff on it, he was wedging it down the gap where the nail used to be...
i may or may not kill you with my crap knowledge
Shall i post a few pics? That'll put you off doing it yourself. These are stomach churning and were done by a professional...
Edited by illmonkey on Thursday 3rd July 16:24
Ok, i'll put piccies up. I will link to them, so no ones offended.
NASTY TOE PICS BELOW..
After first "op" (ingrown right): http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1327/dsc00001me...
After second "op" (ingrown left): http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5245/dsc03140medi...
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4294/dsc03131medi...
nail: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7124/dsc00495me...
NASTY TOE PICS BELOW..
After first "op" (ingrown right): http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1327/dsc00001me...
After second "op" (ingrown left): http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5245/dsc03140medi...
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4294/dsc03131medi...
nail: http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7124/dsc00495me...
For possible future reference, if, soon after the bruising occurs, you heat a paperclip 'til it glows, then press the point down onto the middle of the nail, it'll burn through, release the pressure, and you may save the nail. It's accompanied by a pleasing squirt of blood and instant relief from the pain of the bruising. Then cover the nail with a dressing. Some people favour a drop of superglue to cover the hole, although this can cause irritation.
Caveat: Don't do this if more than 50% of the nail bed is bruised, as that can indicate underlying damage. Let a doctor take a look.
If it comes out the other side, you've pressed too hard.
Caveat: Don't do this if more than 50% of the nail bed is bruised, as that can indicate underlying damage. Let a doctor take a look.
If it comes out the other side, you've pressed too hard.
Sorry but Doctors (GP's) are $hit at aking nails off. They always seem to do it with too much force and use the wrong stuff....pliers!!???
I do this procedure all the time. It's really very simple. The only painful bit is the injection into the toe. It goes like this.
- Inject base of the toe, one injection each side.
- Wait 5-15 minutes, fill the time talking about future holiday plans, weather, strange sexual practices etc.
- Roll a tourniquet (thick rubber ring) over the toe to push the blood out.
- If a partial avulsion (just one side), use a blacks file to separate the lateral/medial nail shoulder from the bed, doesn't take much force at all and shouldn't bleed.
- Use thwaites nippers (like needle nose snips) to separate a longitudanal section of the nail.
- Use a beaver blade (scalpel with cutting edge on the end only) to completley seperate the small portion of nail from the main bit.
- Grab this piece of nail with lockable forceps and twist out.
- Rub (scarify) liquefied phenol (not silver nitrate) into the nail bed using a blacks file for 3 minutes.
- Flush with chlorhexidine, dress and off you go.
- If it's the whole nail you use an elevator instead....and a bit more force.
The surgical excision of the nail bed with a scalpel doesn't seem to work. I see loads of people who've had that done and errant spikes of nail still grow back and cause bother.
Tip...if you ever get an ingrown toenail ask your GP for a referral to Podiatry, we do it all the time and are, in my opinion, the best qualified to sort you out once and for all.
I do this procedure all the time. It's really very simple. The only painful bit is the injection into the toe. It goes like this.
- Inject base of the toe, one injection each side.
- Wait 5-15 minutes, fill the time talking about future holiday plans, weather, strange sexual practices etc.
- Roll a tourniquet (thick rubber ring) over the toe to push the blood out.
- If a partial avulsion (just one side), use a blacks file to separate the lateral/medial nail shoulder from the bed, doesn't take much force at all and shouldn't bleed.
- Use thwaites nippers (like needle nose snips) to separate a longitudanal section of the nail.
- Use a beaver blade (scalpel with cutting edge on the end only) to completley seperate the small portion of nail from the main bit.
- Grab this piece of nail with lockable forceps and twist out.
- Rub (scarify) liquefied phenol (not silver nitrate) into the nail bed using a blacks file for 3 minutes.
- Flush with chlorhexidine, dress and off you go.
- If it's the whole nail you use an elevator instead....and a bit more force.
The surgical excision of the nail bed with a scalpel doesn't seem to work. I see loads of people who've had that done and errant spikes of nail still grow back and cause bother.
Tip...if you ever get an ingrown toenail ask your GP for a referral to Podiatry, we do it all the time and are, in my opinion, the best qualified to sort you out once and for all.
Edited by dave_s13 on Thursday 3rd July 18:51
hmm, well it doesn't hurt this morning
Yesterday if soemone had breathed on it it would have hurt. Stuck some savlon and a plaster over it, i cut the side of the nail off as far down as where it starts to come out of my toe. My Mrs says when she had hers done the GP gave her magnesium sulphate? When i stuck that on it stang like a b
h and seemed to make it worse!
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Eddh said:
illmonkey said:
*nasty story alert*
I had an ingrowning nail for 2 years, kept getting drugs which didnt work. Then a nice lady used to cut some of the nail off to stop it ingrowing for 2weeks for some pain relief.
I got fed up after 4 or so visits so went back to doctors said i want it out.
Fast forward best part of a month. Im called into the surgery, lie down, shoe and sock off. 2 MASSIVE needles to the bone either side of said nail to numb the pain. They give it 10 minutes.
Doctor seems to of mislaid his tools and picks up some plyers instead, he couldnt pull my nail out with thos... OH MY GOD he bloody is.
All i can feel is tearing and braking and tugging on my toe (making feel sick remembering), finally, POP. Nails off, but they are not finished!
Que scalpel, cuts some of the skin from the nail bed out, to stop it growning back on one side. Finally finished, need to take a week off work and litreally have my foot up all week. Had to shower with shopping bag on foot and redress every 4 hours due to bleeding.
Nail grows back, which it was ment to do, but this time leaning to the left as there is nothing on the other side for it to get set in. Yey, the other side is now ingrowing.
Go to the GP, say get rid of it for good. This time a more plesent experience. Needles hurt a bugger, but they worked this time as i asked the guy when he was starting and he showed me my nail. He covered my nail bed in silver nitrate (i think) and it's never grown back.
By the way, a nail grows about 1 CM under the skin where you cant see it. I also have pics if people want to see my nail, removed...
Have also had the same done on both big toes. Had the nails chemically killed so they didnt grow back, had it done the first time and didnt watch. Watched the second time and wished I hadn't!!I had an ingrowning nail for 2 years, kept getting drugs which didnt work. Then a nice lady used to cut some of the nail off to stop it ingrowing for 2weeks for some pain relief.
I got fed up after 4 or so visits so went back to doctors said i want it out.
Fast forward best part of a month. Im called into the surgery, lie down, shoe and sock off. 2 MASSIVE needles to the bone either side of said nail to numb the pain. They give it 10 minutes.
Doctor seems to of mislaid his tools and picks up some plyers instead, he couldnt pull my nail out with thos... OH MY GOD he bloody is.
All i can feel is tearing and braking and tugging on my toe (making feel sick remembering), finally, POP. Nails off, but they are not finished!
Que scalpel, cuts some of the skin from the nail bed out, to stop it growning back on one side. Finally finished, need to take a week off work and litreally have my foot up all week. Had to shower with shopping bag on foot and redress every 4 hours due to bleeding.
Nail grows back, which it was ment to do, but this time leaning to the left as there is nothing on the other side for it to get set in. Yey, the other side is now ingrowing.
Go to the GP, say get rid of it for good. This time a more plesent experience. Needles hurt a bugger, but they worked this time as i asked the guy when he was starting and he showed me my nail. He covered my nail bed in silver nitrate (i think) and it's never grown back.
By the way, a nail grows about 1 CM under the skin where you cant see it. I also have pics if people want to see my nail, removed...
Edited by Eddh on Thursday 3rd July 15:42
I had a large pavement type slab fall over and crush my finger as a kid.In the end the nail was so black, damaged and loose that I pulled it off myself.It grew back just fine.
Before that, when I was around 5 years old, I was on a metal slide at a holiday camp and to gain extra speed I was going down said slide with my feet pointed down as flat as I could get them, arms tucked in etc etc.Unbeknown to me, two of the rivets which held the metal sheets of the slide in place had come away and one sheet of metal was raised an inch or so.As I slid down at speed, my foot went under this metal sheet and two of my toenails were sliced straight off with almost surgical precision.
I didn't cry at the time, but when someone grabbed me after realising I was wedged on the slide, stood me in the kiddies paddling pool and it began to fill with blood, the tears began to flow! This all happened in the days before claims direct existed of course![wink](/inc/images/wink.gif)
They also grew back perfectly btw.
Before that, when I was around 5 years old, I was on a metal slide at a holiday camp and to gain extra speed I was going down said slide with my feet pointed down as flat as I could get them, arms tucked in etc etc.Unbeknown to me, two of the rivets which held the metal sheets of the slide in place had come away and one sheet of metal was raised an inch or so.As I slid down at speed, my foot went under this metal sheet and two of my toenails were sliced straight off with almost surgical precision.
I didn't cry at the time, but when someone grabbed me after realising I was wedged on the slide, stood me in the kiddies paddling pool and it began to fill with blood, the tears began to flow! This all happened in the days before claims direct existed of course
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They also grew back perfectly btw.
Many years ago I was chatting to a chap who was repairing an Escort and while he was still talking he slammed the bonnet shut on my finger..
To make matters much worse, due to my finger being there the damn thing would NOT open again so I had to pull my finger slowly out while he was pushing the bonnet up and down while an assistant kept pulling the handle.
Result being a very blooded mess. Black nail, bruised finger and lots of trapped blood under the nail (great relief found by 'drilling' though it using a fine watchmakers screwdriver) after all that the sodding nail decided to drop off.
To make matters much worse, due to my finger being there the damn thing would NOT open again so I had to pull my finger slowly out while he was pushing the bonnet up and down while an assistant kept pulling the handle.
Result being a very blooded mess. Black nail, bruised finger and lots of trapped blood under the nail (great relief found by 'drilling' though it using a fine watchmakers screwdriver) after all that the sodding nail decided to drop off.
Edited by Morningside on Monday 7th July 19:57
I lost a nail on one finger and partly on another. It didn't help the ends of my fingers were still attached to the nails at the time...
Got them caught in the alternator on a Mini Metro whilst the engine was running and from memory it bought one or two tears to my face at the time and a bucket load of blood. I later found one nail in perfect condition with a bit of flesh attached on the garage floor. I am still amazed how much of the nail is under the skin
The nail now grows around the top of my finger and I have to keep it trimmed. A couple of months ago I was lifting a box and it slipped so I went to catch it with my fingers (as you do) and ripped the entire nail clean out again in one go.....fook me that hurt and it's still not right![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
It's not until you damage a digit you realize just how much you use them and knock them all the time![yes](/inc/images/yes.gif)
Got them caught in the alternator on a Mini Metro whilst the engine was running and from memory it bought one or two tears to my face at the time and a bucket load of blood. I later found one nail in perfect condition with a bit of flesh attached on the garage floor. I am still amazed how much of the nail is under the skin
The nail now grows around the top of my finger and I have to keep it trimmed. A couple of months ago I was lifting a box and it slipped so I went to catch it with my fingers (as you do) and ripped the entire nail clean out again in one go.....fook me that hurt and it's still not right
![smile](/inc/images/smile.gif)
It's not until you damage a digit you realize just how much you use them and knock them all the time
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